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norcalgsr · 11-08-2007, 10:18 PM

Are you kidding me?!

A 90 Accord with an H22 engine swap, even with the ACCORD trans puts it into the 14's in a 1/4 mile. Put the H22 trans in there too and you'd be at a low 14 second 1/4 mile with an unmodified H22. Get your info straight before you post some shit that isn't true.

need2bfaster · 11-08-2007, 11:55 PM

its not that easy just to sell your car and buy a new one and its paid for =no payments

norcalgsr · 11-08-2007, 11:57 PM

Yeah don't listen to him.. he obviously has no clue what he's talking about!

need2bfaster · 11-08-2007, 11:59 PM

so does any one know what year head i should use for my motor or not

norcalgsr · 11-09-2007, 12:01 AM

I would personally leave it alone.. swapping the head will not make you much power at all. Is there something wrong with your head or are you just looking to make more power?

need2bfaster · 11-09-2007, 12:03 AM

more power i have a spare f22 i want to mess around with and theres a junk yard i can get parts fairly cheap ex i got an f22a1 for 350 with 92 thou

need2bfaster · 11-09-2007, 12:15 AM

so i'd imagine i can probably get an h22 head decently priced if not the whole swap

norcalgsr · 11-09-2007, 12:16 AM

I would really look into an H22 swap if I was you.. for barely over 1000 bucks (or less) you can make a good 70% more power over the F22.

norcalgsr · 11-09-2007, 12:18 AM

As far as the 97 Accord head I really don't think it would be worth the time/money to mess with for the little bit, if any, power you'll get from it.

need2bfaster · 11-09-2007, 12:18 AM

what yr h22 for the swap

norcalgsr · 11-09-2007, 12:20 AM

Any OBD1 H22 is what you want.. depends on if you're going JDM or US. USDM you need a 96 or older, but I'm not sure if the years are the same in Japan. As long as it is OBD1 it will work for you, and you'll need the engine + ECU and possibly an ECU conversion harness for the basic swap. I did the swap on a 91 Accord and we didn't need the conversion harness, but haven't tried it on a 90 yet. The H22 transmission will make it faster, but your Accord 5 spd will mate to the H22 block if you're looking to save money.

need2bfaster · 11-09-2007, 12:23 AM

saving money is good for now till i can afford that tranny but the motor and wiring harness are the same 90 thru 93 cause i pulled the 90 motor out n put a 93 motor in it so u think ill still need the conversion kit

norcalgsr · 11-09-2007, 12:33 AM

I'm pretty sure the 90 Accord was OBD0 and the 91+ was OBD1.. but if so the conversion harness only adds a little over $100 to the cost so it's still not a bad deal. You'll make way more power swapping that in your car than you could trying to built the F series to compete with it.

Did you swap the ECU when you put in the 93 engine?

need2bfaster · 11-09-2007, 12:39 AM

i swapped the wiring harness on the motor

norcalgsr · 11-09-2007, 12:42 AM

But are you still running the stock ECU, or did you upgrade that as well? If the ECU is still the original you'll probably need the conversion harness.

need2bfaster · 11-09-2007, 12:44 AM

still stock ecu ..........? off the h22 topic my check engine light comes on after the car has reached a certain temp any clue as to y ??

norcalgsr · 11-09-2007, 12:55 AM

Not without pulling the code.. try uncovering your ECU and see if it has a small window in the top cover with a red LED inside. If so, turn the key to the ON position and it will start blinking the code(s) that are stored in it. The long blinks count as 10 and the short blinks are 1.. so if you get a series of say 5 short blinks it is a code 5, a long blink followed by 2 short ones is 12, etc. It will repeat all the codes continuously after it is finished as well.

If you do have that on your ECU that confirms it is an OBD0 as well, which means you will need the OBD0 to OBD1 conversion harness for the H22. You can find them at Rywire - Online Store

need2bfaster · 11-09-2007, 12:57 AM

ok thanks ill check out the code tommorow

INJEN78 · 11-09-2007, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrutalB83

Yes, but the H-Series and F-Series are related, you can interchange parts between the two. And just because one motor is dual cam and the other is single cam doesn't mean you can't swap heads between the two.

what do you mean you can change parts from singles and dual??

norcalgsr · 11-10-2007, 12:27 AM

You can change transmissions, heads, etc between the two engines.

need2bfaster · 11-10-2007, 08:44 AM

will a 98 prelude head fit on my f22a1

norcalgsr · 11-12-2007, 12:10 AM

Mechanically it should fit, although I'm not 100% sure, but that is an OBD2 head which would create a lot of problems with the wiring. If you are looking to swap heads stay with something that is a 95 or older so you are running OBD1. I suppose you could always convert the 98 head back to OBD1 as well, but I don't think it's worth the effort & money. Keep in mind you're still going to need a conversion harness & ECU either way you go, so I still think the H22 longblock would be best for you considering the time, effort, and money involved.

need2bfaster · 11-12-2007, 05:49 AM

ok my friend has a h22 for 500 but it has a bad rod bearing and im not one to rebuild a motor so im not to sure on that though but i am going to call the junk yard today and see what they have as far as motor and ecu

norcalgsr · 11-12-2007, 09:18 PM

I wouldn't pay 500 with a spun bearing.. you can get a JDM long block out here for 900.

erick1235 · 11-27-2007, 08:12 PM

Whtas your accord Auto or Stick?

11-08-2007, 10:18 PM	#26
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 26 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 18	Are you kidding me?! A 90 Accord with an H22 engine swap, even with the ACCORD trans puts it into the 14's in a 1/4 mile. Put the H22 trans in there too and you'd be at a low 14 second 1/4 mile with an unmodified H22. Get your info straight before you post some shit that isn't true. __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..

11-08-2007, 11:57 PM	#28
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 26 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 18	Yeah don't listen to him.. he obviously has no clue what he's talking about! __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..

11-09-2007, 12:01 AM	#30
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 26 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 18	I would personally leave it alone.. swapping the head will not make you much power at all. Is there something wrong with your head or are you just looking to make more power? __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..

11-09-2007, 12:16 AM	#33
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 26 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 18	I would really look into an H22 swap if I was you.. for barely over 1000 bucks (or less) you can make a good 70% more power over the F22. __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..

11-09-2007, 12:18 AM	#34
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 26 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 18	As far as the 97 Accord head I really don't think it would be worth the time/money to mess with for the little bit, if any, power you'll get from it. __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..

11-08-2007, 11:55 PM	#27
need2bfaster Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: pa Posts: 166 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 ex accord Rep Power: 0	its not that easy just to sell your car and buy a new one and its paid for =no payments

11-08-2007, 11:59 PM	#29
need2bfaster Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: pa Posts: 166 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 ex accord Rep Power: 0	so does any one know what year head i should use for my motor or not

11-09-2007, 12:03 AM	#31
need2bfaster Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: pa Posts: 166 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 ex accord Rep Power: 0	more power i have a spare f22 i want to mess around with and theres a junk yard i can get parts fairly cheap ex i got an f22a1 for 350 with 92 thou

11-09-2007, 12:15 AM	#32
need2bfaster Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: pa Posts: 166 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 ex accord Rep Power: 0	so i'd imagine i can probably get an h22 head decently priced if not the whole swap

11-09-2007, 12:20 AM	#36
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 26 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 18	Any OBD1 H22 is what you want.. depends on if you're going JDM or US. USDM you need a 96 or older, but I'm not sure if the years are the same in Japan. As long as it is OBD1 it will work for you, and you'll need the engine + ECU and possibly an ECU conversion harness for the basic swap. I did the swap on a 91 Accord and we didn't need the conversion harness, but haven't tried it on a 90 yet. The H22 transmission will make it faster, but your Accord 5 spd will mate to the H22 block if you're looking to save money. __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..

11-09-2007, 12:23 AM	#37
need2bfaster Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: pa Posts: 166 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 ex accord Rep Power: 0	saving money is good for now till i can afford that tranny but the motor and wiring harness are the same 90 thru 93 cause i pulled the 90 motor out n put a 93 motor in it so u think ill still need the conversion kit

11-09-2007, 12:33 AM	#38
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 26 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 18	I'm pretty sure the 90 Accord was OBD0 and the 91+ was OBD1.. but if so the conversion harness only adds a little over $100 to the cost so it's still not a bad deal. You'll make way more power swapping that in your car than you could trying to built the F series to compete with it. Did you swap the ECU when you put in the 93 engine? __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..

11-09-2007, 12:39 AM	#39
need2bfaster Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: pa Posts: 166 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 ex accord Rep Power: 0	i swapped the wiring harness on the motor

11-09-2007, 12:42 AM	#40
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 26 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 18	But are you still running the stock ECU, or did you upgrade that as well? If the ECU is still the original you'll probably need the conversion harness. __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..

11-09-2007, 12:44 AM	#41
need2bfaster Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: pa Posts: 166 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 ex accord Rep Power: 0	still stock ecu ..........? off the h22 topic my check engine light comes on after the car has reached a certain temp any clue as to y ??

11-09-2007, 12:55 AM	#42
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 26 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 18	Not without pulling the code.. try uncovering your ECU and see if it has a small window in the top cover with a red LED inside. If so, turn the key to the ON position and it will start blinking the code(s) that are stored in it. The long blinks count as 10 and the short blinks are 1.. so if you get a series of say 5 short blinks it is a code 5, a long blink followed by 2 short ones is 12, etc. It will repeat all the codes continuously after it is finished as well. If you do have that on your ECU that confirms it is an OBD0 as well, which means you will need the OBD0 to OBD1 conversion harness for the H22. You can find them at Rywire - Online Store __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..

11-09-2007, 12:57 AM	#43
need2bfaster Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: pa Posts: 166 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 ex accord Rep Power: 0	ok thanks ill check out the code tommorow

11-10-2007, 12:27 AM	#45
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 26 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 18	You can change transmissions, heads, etc between the two engines. __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..

11-10-2007, 08:44 AM	#46
need2bfaster Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: pa Posts: 166 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 ex accord Rep Power: 0	will a 98 prelude head fit on my f22a1

11-12-2007, 12:10 AM	#47
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 26 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 18	Mechanically it should fit, although I'm not 100% sure, but that is an OBD2 head which would create a lot of problems with the wiring. If you are looking to swap heads stay with something that is a 95 or older so you are running OBD1. I suppose you could always convert the 98 head back to OBD1 as well, but I don't think it's worth the effort & money. Keep in mind you're still going to need a conversion harness & ECU either way you go, so I still think the H22 longblock would be best for you considering the time, effort, and money involved. __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..

11-12-2007, 05:49 AM	#48
need2bfaster Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: pa Posts: 166 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 ex accord Rep Power: 0	ok my friend has a h22 for 500 but it has a bad rod bearing and im not one to rebuild a motor so im not to sure on that though but i am going to call the junk yard today and see what they have as far as motor and ecu

11-12-2007, 09:18 PM	#49
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 26 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 18	I wouldn't pay 500 with a spun bearing.. you can get a JDM long block out here for 900. __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..

11-27-2007, 08:12 PM	#50
erick1235 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 Accord EX Rep Power: 0	Whtas your accord Auto or Stick?

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