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Team Hypnotic · 10-05-2009, 11:43 PM

I'm getting a great deal on a F22 B1 and i have a F22 A1. Will it be a straight drop in?

AHHVTEC · 10-06-2009, 01:39 AM

yes it will bolt right in

f22b1 coupe · 10-06-2009, 04:08 PM

Yes. You will need the ECU, engine harness, and if it is an automatic the TCU possibly. THe ECU is at the feet of the passenger, you'll pull the carpet back and there is a plate held down with 10mm bolts. The ECU is obviously the larger one.

You can take the engine out and leave the transmission in if you remove the crank pulley on the old engine. I highly recommend doing it that way.

DO NOT BE AN IDIOT AND NOT CHANGE YOUR OIL SEALS. While you've got the engine on the ground, replace the rear main, and do the timing belt, and replace the cam seal, balance shaft seal, and the crankshaft seal. Also replace the front seal of the transmission, you slide the toque converter out to get to it. Have someone who's done seals before help you if you have not done them before. Do the timing belt, balance shaft belt, and water pump too.If the engine is up around 200k, do the two pulleys as well. Taking my advice will make sure you don't develop any oil leaks you cannot easily access, and also prevent the timing belt from breaking. You also have VERY easy access to the three heater hoses while you're changing the engine, I'd highly recommend replacing those (and the thermostat) while you are doing it.

You've talking a few hundred dollars, for sure, but ask yourself if you think you don't have $300 right now, will you have $2000 later to pay someone else to do all that, or like 40 hours of free time to just dive in and fix it? I think that swap is an awesome one to do, I've got an F22B1 96 and I really like the SOHC VTEC for the gas mileage/performance ratio you get. Good luck with it, keep us posted, and feel free to ask any questions

D15Beater · 10-06-2009, 05:27 PM

Use the A6's drivers side bracket/mount combo, the A6's transmission and all its mounts. The matching A6 transmission's axles. Youll need a 94-95 accord EX vtec ecu or chipped Obd1 ecu. Swap pins A6 & A11 at the ECU. A6 is an O2 wire and A11 is an EGR wire. These are opposite on the 5th gen. Pin D6 is the vtec pressure switch and A4 is the vtec solenoid. You need to use your stock engine harness on the B1 and run those vtec wires or use the 94-95 harness if your B1 is Obd1.

Team Hypnotic · 10-06-2009, 06:01 PM

I figured it would drop right in. Thanks Guys!! im getting it for $400 with only 30,000 miles on the motor. Ima do a crower cam with Skunk cam gears. I plan on runnig 20 pounds pretty soon on a T4

f22b1 coupe · 10-07-2009, 12:15 AM

20 PSI? I'm not a turbo guy, somebody help me out here, you may want to take your internals into consideration...

Btw, cam gearS? lol

BrutalB83 · 10-07-2009, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f22b1 coupe

20 PSI? I'm not a turbo guy, somebody help me out here, you may want to take your internals into consideration...

Btw, cam gearS? lol

Agreed. If you want this thing to last any decent amount of time I'd consider upgrading some of your internal parts...

Team Hypnotic · 10-07-2009, 07:28 PM

I'am im doing cp pistons and push rods. torgue my head bolts and do rocker arms. its a project and this new motor is FLAWLESS!!!!

10-05-2009, 11:43 PM	#1
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10-06-2009, 01:39 AM	#2
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,378 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	yes it will bolt right in

10-06-2009, 04:08 PM	#3
f22b1 coupe Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Indiana Age: 22 Posts: 240 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 Accord EX coupe Rep Power: 23	Yes. You will need the ECU, engine harness, and if it is an automatic the TCU possibly. THe ECU is at the feet of the passenger, you'll pull the carpet back and there is a plate held down with 10mm bolts. The ECU is obviously the larger one. You can take the engine out and leave the transmission in if you remove the crank pulley on the old engine. I highly recommend doing it that way. DO NOT BE AN IDIOT AND NOT CHANGE YOUR OIL SEALS. While you've got the engine on the ground, replace the rear main, and do the timing belt, and replace the cam seal, balance shaft seal, and the crankshaft seal. Also replace the front seal of the transmission, you slide the toque converter out to get to it. Have someone who's done seals before help you if you have not done them before. Do the timing belt, balance shaft belt, and water pump too.If the engine is up around 200k, do the two pulleys as well. Taking my advice will make sure you don't develop any oil leaks you cannot easily access, and also prevent the timing belt from breaking. You also have VERY easy access to the three heater hoses while you're changing the engine, I'd highly recommend replacing those (and the thermostat) while you are doing it. You've talking a few hundred dollars, for sure, but ask yourself if you think you don't have $300 right now, will you have $2000 later to pay someone else to do all that, or like 40 hours of free time to just dive in and fix it? I think that swap is an awesome one to do, I've got an F22B1 96 and I really like the SOHC VTEC for the gas mileage/performance ratio you get. Good luck with it, keep us posted, and feel free to ask any questions

10-06-2009, 05:27 PM	#4
D15Beater HNFTuning Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Concord N.C. Posts: 548 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: or die.... Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 19	Use the A6's drivers side bracket/mount combo, the A6's transmission and all its mounts. The matching A6 transmission's axles. Youll need a 94-95 accord EX vtec ecu or chipped Obd1 ecu. Swap pins A6 & A11 at the ECU. A6 is an O2 wire and A11 is an EGR wire. These are opposite on the 5th gen. Pin D6 is the vtec pressure switch and A4 is the vtec solenoid. You need to use your stock engine harness on the B1 and run those vtec wires or use the 94-95 harness if your B1 is Obd1.

10-06-2009, 06:01 PM	#5
Team Hypnotic Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kelso Age: 18 Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1992 Honda Accord DX. Coupe. Its defenatly a working progress Rep Power: 0	I figured it would drop right in. Thanks Guys!! im getting it for $400 with only 30,000 miles on the motor. Ima do a crower cam with Skunk cam gears. I plan on runnig 20 pounds pretty soon on a T4

10-07-2009, 12:15 AM	#6
f22b1 coupe Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Indiana Age: 22 Posts: 240 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 96 Accord EX coupe Rep Power: 23	20 PSI? I'm not a turbo guy, somebody help me out here, you may want to take your internals into consideration... Btw, cam gearS? lol

10-07-2009, 07:28 PM	#8
Team Hypnotic Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kelso Age: 18 Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1992 Honda Accord DX. Coupe. Its defenatly a working progress Rep Power: 0	I'am im doing cp pistons and push rods. torgue my head bolts and do rocker arms. its a project and this new motor is FLAWLESS!!!!

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