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caboose · 08-07-2008, 01:12 PM

Huffing, just like the sound of air? Probably just normal. You don't have one of those slinky style ones do you?

budda · 08-07-2008, 01:14 PM

My car made a huffing sound when i put on a cone filter. It would huff when i revved the engine.

91accordwithwork · 08-07-2008, 01:27 PM

k thanks guy sill start with those items and c how it goes,

yah my cold air intake its just a stock intake with a big filter on the end, it huffs a lot and seems to be messed up? idk why tho could it have somethign to do with the timing?

budda · 08-07-2008, 01:28 PM

Its not the timing. Cone filters huff. Mine did the same.

caboose · 08-07-2008, 01:29 PM

No, probably not... timing is probably fine. If it bothers you so much, switch back to stock!

Get it fixed first...

And what is wrong with the radiator

91accordwithwork · 08-07-2008, 01:31 PM

the radiator is tore up leaks antifreze tech mssing, i already ordered a new one so i will install that reall qucik that sghould help cool everything down i bet

91accordwithwork · 08-07-2008, 03:04 PM

hey guys i got a ton of more good info i just learn from taking a few thigns apart

1. my "slinky" cold air intake hose is full of ioly substance??? what does this mean??

2. brand new bosh platniums plugs are all full i mean full of oil and are looking tore up....

3. distriutor looks in ok shape not sure

can we get any answers for this stuff guys????

thanks

budda · 08-07-2008, 03:28 PM

I think you taking your valve cover off may have had something to do with the oil in the plugs. did you have that problem before?

91accordwithwork · 08-07-2008, 03:30 PM

yah there was a lil in there before , idk i dont think thats the problem but idk any ideas guys/>?

prpprimo · 08-07-2008, 03:51 PM

Just be certian the oil is near the electrode underneath the threads before saying they're bad(fouled). As stated from fellow memebers, oil on the top of the plug (above the threads) does not indicate they are bad. Chances are when you pulled your valve cover you did not re seat the valve cover gasket correctly and/or you did not replace it when you put it back on.Thats like re using a condom.(NASTY!) You continuously say idk. Hire an experienced tech do the repairs on your car, so he can say "ik" (I know).. If you have money to blow on replacing all those parts you have money to hire somebody that knows what they are doing. Just a thought for ya buddy.

By the way how did you end up with rep power? Your knowledge seems very limited.

91accordwithwork · 08-07-2008, 04:07 PM

ok well i thought this blog for people that dont no what there doing so they can learn, i would hire a guy but the whole point u are missing is that this blog can be " my guy " in workds to say that u guys can teach me and help me and vice versa

so what should i buy?

im going to start with a new distributor ,( whole thing )

is this a good one?>

eBay Motors: NEW 90-91 HONDA ACCORD 2.2L TD31U IGNITION DISTRIBUTOR (item 160268086995 end time Aug-09-08 12:32:26 PDT)

BrutalB83 · 08-07-2008, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91accordwithwork

ok well i thought this blog for people that dont no what there doing so they can learn, i would hire a guy but the whole point u are missing is that this blog can be " my guy " in workds to say that u guys can teach me and help me and vice versa

Do you even know what a blog is?

And yes, you need to just take your car somewhere and say "fix this please".

caboose · 08-07-2008, 10:39 PM

Buying that would be an absolutely terrible idea...

For the third time:
AUTOZONE -- JUST THE CAP -- PART #: JP982 -- $16.99
AUTOZONE -- ROTOR -- PART #: JP903 -- $4.99

AUTOZONE -- SET OF NGK PLUGS -- PART #: 7098 -- $1.99 PER PLUG
If you are willing do drop that kind of money on a distributor when it's not at all necessary, spend the $8 and get a set of 4 plugs that we know work fine.

AUTOZONE -- PLUG WIRES -- PART #: 9566 -- $35.99
Don't waste money on the bigger size, just get the stock. This might be a little more, but if you are willing to spend over $100 on a distributor, when all you need is a cap

A new distributor will NOT do anything more than this. Plus you would then have to take off the old one and install the new one, and then set the timing correctly. I can't think of a single reason how replacing the distributor would be better than what I said above. Plus the ebay one is some cheap replacement and will in no way fit as good as the OEM Honda one.

Also distributor caps wear on the inside, you would have to take it off to see.

CRX-YEM · 08-07-2008, 11:00 PM

I don't think this would be a main relay problem as the OP stated the motor won't turn over. A main relay failure would only prohibit the engine from getting fuel and not start. It will turn over with a bad main relay.

To get an idea if it's a flaky main relay, Turn off all your accessories, radio/radar detector etc.... try and keep the noise down in the cabin. Now turn the key one click to the on position you should hear the feul pump turn on and run for a second or two. You should do this a few times to listen for the fuel pump turning on. If you don't hear it, it very may well be the main realy.

I would check the battery and make sure the connections are tight. Possibly have the battery tested to see if it needs to be replaced.

It cold possibly be the distributor? but If you haven't changes your wires,plugs, and distributor rotor in ages that might be a good start. A simple turn up. No need to buy platinum or some exotic plugs, just go with good 'ol NGK copper they a shit load cheaper they just don't last as long.

Hondadude141 · 08-07-2008, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRX-YEM

I don't think this would be a main relay problem as the OP stated the motor won't turn over. A main relay failure would only prohibit the engine from getting fuel and not start. It will turn over with a bad main relay.

To get an idea if it's a flaky main relay, Turn off all your accessories, radio/radar detector etc.... try and keep the noise down in the cabin. Now turn the key one click to the on position you should hear the feul pump turn on and run for a second or two. You should do this a few times to listen for the fuel pump turning on. If you don't hear it, it very may well be the main realy.

I would check the battery and make sure the connections are tight. Possibly have the battery tested to see if it needs to be replaced.

It cold possibly be the distributor? but If you haven't changes your wires,plugs, and distributor rotor in ages that might be a good start. A simple turn up. No need to buy platinum or some exotic plugs, just go with good 'ol NGK copper they a shit load cheaper they just don't last as long.

It's like talking to a wall man, no matter how hard you try, you will get nowhere telling him what you just did. give it a day and he'll still be asking bout the same stuff

caboose · 08-07-2008, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRX-YEM

I don't think this would be a main relay problem as the OP stated the motor won't turn over. A main relay failure would only prohibit the engine from getting fuel and not start. It will turn over with a bad main relay.

To get an idea if it's a flaky main relay, Turn off all your accessories, radio/radar detector etc.... try and keep the noise down in the cabin. Now turn the key one click to the on position you should hear the feul pump turn on and run for a second or two. You should do this a few times to listen for the fuel pump turning on. If you don't hear it, it very may well be the main realy.

I would check the battery and make sure the connections are tight. Possibly have the battery tested to see if it needs to be replaced.

What about rough idle?

BrutalB83 · 08-07-2008, 11:24 PM

As much as I hate to chime in here, I feel somewhat compelled. Did you change the valve cover gasket when you took it off to paint it? Did you even put the old one back in? This could be a potential source of oil getting into parts of the engine that it shouldn't...

caboose · 08-08-2008, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrutalB83

As much as I hate to chime in here, I feel somewhat compelled. Did you change the valve cover gasket when you took it off to paint it? Did you even put the old one back in? This could be a potential source of oil getting into parts of the engine that it shouldn't...

People keep commenting on that used valve cover gasket, but the oil that he is seeing would have to come over the top of the spark plug tubes or through the bottom of them.... IMO oil pooling around the plugs isn't a problem.

If the valve cover gasket really was bad, then he would have a bit of a mess, but I don't see how that would cause any of them of these problems.

My guess is that he's arching his spark across carbon buildup through the inside of the distributor cap into the head...

prpprimo · 08-08-2008, 10:13 AM

Hey, Homeslice...take it to a shop..call it a day.

BrutalB83 · 08-08-2008, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caboose

People keep commenting on that used valve cover gasket, but the oil that he is seeing would have to come over the top of the spark plug tubes or through the bottom of them.... IMO oil pooling around the plugs isn't a problem.

If the valve cover gasket really was bad, then he would have a bit of a mess, but I don't see how that would cause any of them of these problems.

My guess is that he's arching his spark across carbon buildup through the inside of the distributor cap into the head...

Right, I agree. A bad valve cover gasket wouldn't necessarily explain all the problems, but it's a possible source of the oil around the spark plugs. It was just a suggestion. I should probably have read through the entire thread more thoroughly. It seems like others already suggested this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by prpprimo

Hey, Homeslice...take it to a shop..call it a day.

I agree. The longer you drive it around without fixing it the worse the problems are going to get. Take it to a mechanic that you trust (if you have any that you trust) and then ask for a thorough explanation of what was wrong with it and what caused the problems. That way you'll know what to look for and how to fix it yourself next time.

Also, buy yourself a Haynes or Chilton manual for your car. They don't cost much and they're a good source of information for trouble-shooting problems and general maintenance procedures...

08-07-2008, 01:12 PM	#51
caboose I still know everything Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hamilton, MI Age: 20 Posts: 304 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 89 CRX HF, 96 Accord EX, 88 Dodge Daytona Shelbyz T-tops Rep Power: 6	Huffing, just like the sound of air? Probably just normal. You don't have one of those slinky style ones do you? __________________ Formerly the.original.kermit Back from the dead... twice I NEED PARTS!!! http://hondaswap.com/parts-sale-trade-wanted/wtb-1989-crx-parts-161172/#post1079066 Check out my progress... http://hondaswap.com/auto-multi-media/my-1989-crx-project-144941/

08-07-2008, 01:27 PM	#53
91accordwithwork kid that everyone loves! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wauwatosa WI Age: 14 Posts: 541 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 accrod DX with a few extras : ) Rep Power: 0	k thanks guy sill start with those items and c how it goes, yah my cold air intake its just a stock intake with a big filter on the end, it huffs a lot and seems to be messed up? idk why tho could it have somethign to do with the timing? __________________ heres my mod. list -painted valve cover -new headers -new high flow obx resonator -new carbon fiber exaust tip -new p.s pump -new radiator -new belt -new injen ram intake -new strut bar -new deck (installed myself) -new speakers -not bad for learning as i went and not having shit for help besides u great guys i think thats around all i did, tok a few months but im happy with it! and after all that theres a small puddle of oil under my intake on my engine..... the fun never ends!

08-07-2008, 01:29 PM	#55
caboose I still know everything Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hamilton, MI Age: 20 Posts: 304 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 89 CRX HF, 96 Accord EX, 88 Dodge Daytona Shelbyz T-tops Rep Power: 6	No, probably not... timing is probably fine. If it bothers you so much, switch back to stock! Get it fixed first... And what is wrong with the radiator __________________ Formerly the.original.kermit Back from the dead... twice I NEED PARTS!!! http://hondaswap.com/parts-sale-trade-wanted/wtb-1989-crx-parts-161172/#post1079066 Check out my progress... http://hondaswap.com/auto-multi-media/my-1989-crx-project-144941/

08-07-2008, 01:31 PM	#56
91accordwithwork kid that everyone loves! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wauwatosa WI Age: 14 Posts: 541 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 accrod DX with a few extras : ) Rep Power: 0	the radiator is tore up leaks antifreze tech mssing, i already ordered a new one so i will install that reall qucik that sghould help cool everything down i bet __________________ heres my mod. list -painted valve cover -new headers -new high flow obx resonator -new carbon fiber exaust tip -new p.s pump -new radiator -new belt -new injen ram intake -new strut bar -new deck (installed myself) -new speakers -not bad for learning as i went and not having shit for help besides u great guys i think thats around all i did, tok a few months but im happy with it! and after all that theres a small puddle of oil under my intake on my engine..... the fun never ends!

08-07-2008, 03:04 PM	#57
91accordwithwork kid that everyone loves! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wauwatosa WI Age: 14 Posts: 541 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 accrod DX with a few extras : ) Rep Power: 0	hey guys i got a ton of more good info i just learn from taking a few thigns apart 1. my "slinky" cold air intake hose is full of ioly substance??? what does this mean?? 2. brand new bosh platniums plugs are all full i mean full of oil and are looking tore up.... 3. distriutor looks in ok shape not sure can we get any answers for this stuff guys???? thanks __________________ heres my mod. list -painted valve cover -new headers -new high flow obx resonator -new carbon fiber exaust tip -new p.s pump -new radiator -new belt -new injen ram intake -new strut bar -new deck (installed myself) -new speakers -not bad for learning as i went and not having shit for help besides u great guys i think thats around all i did, tok a few months but im happy with it! and after all that theres a small puddle of oil under my intake on my engine..... the fun never ends!


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08-07-2008, 01:14 PM	#52
budda Brilliant Schizophrenia Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cincinnati Age: 19 Posts: 399 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1987 Chrysler lebaron turbo Rep Power: 16	My car made a huffing sound when i put on a cone filter. It would huff when i revved the engine.

08-07-2008, 01:28 PM	#54
budda Brilliant Schizophrenia Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cincinnati Age: 19 Posts: 399 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1987 Chrysler lebaron turbo Rep Power: 16	Its not the timing. Cone filters huff. Mine did the same.

08-07-2008, 03:28 PM	#58
budda Brilliant Schizophrenia Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cincinnati Age: 19 Posts: 399 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1987 Chrysler lebaron turbo Rep Power: 16	I think you taking your valve cover off may have had something to do with the oil in the plugs. did you have that problem before?

08-07-2008, 03:30 PM	#59
91accordwithwork kid that everyone loves! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wauwatosa WI Age: 14 Posts: 541 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 accrod DX with a few extras : ) Rep Power: 0	yah there was a lil in there before , idk i dont think thats the problem but idk any ideas guys/>? __________________ heres my mod. list -painted valve cover -new headers -new high flow obx resonator -new carbon fiber exaust tip -new p.s pump -new radiator -new belt -new injen ram intake -new strut bar -new deck (installed myself) -new speakers -not bad for learning as i went and not having shit for help besides u great guys i think thats around all i did, tok a few months but im happy with it! and after all that theres a small puddle of oil under my intake on my engine..... the fun never ends!

08-07-2008, 03:51 PM	#60
prpprimo Hondaholic Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: ABQ Posts: 141 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 hatch z6/ 98 coupe z7 Rep Power: 2	Just be certian the oil is near the electrode underneath the threads before saying they're bad(fouled). As stated from fellow memebers, oil on the top of the plug (above the threads) does not indicate they are bad. Chances are when you pulled your valve cover you did not re seat the valve cover gasket correctly and/or you did not replace it when you put it back on.Thats like re using a condom.(NASTY!) You continuously say idk. Hire an experienced tech do the repairs on your car, so he can say "ik" (I know).. If you have money to blow on replacing all those parts you have money to hire somebody that knows what they are doing. Just a thought for ya buddy. By the way how did you end up with rep power? Your knowledge seems very limited.

08-07-2008, 04:07 PM	#61
91accordwithwork kid that everyone loves! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Wauwatosa WI Age: 14 Posts: 541 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 accrod DX with a few extras : ) Rep Power: 0	ok well i thought this blog for people that dont no what there doing so they can learn, i would hire a guy but the whole point u are missing is that this blog can be " my guy " in workds to say that u guys can teach me and help me and vice versa so what should i buy? im going to start with a new distributor ,( whole thing ) is this a good one?> eBay Motors: NEW 90-91 HONDA ACCORD 2.2L TD31U IGNITION DISTRIBUTOR (item 160268086995 end time Aug-09-08 12:32:26 PDT) __________________ heres my mod. list -painted valve cover -new headers -new high flow obx resonator -new carbon fiber exaust tip -new p.s pump -new radiator -new belt -new injen ram intake -new strut bar -new deck (installed myself) -new speakers -not bad for learning as i went and not having shit for help besides u great guys i think thats around all i did, tok a few months but im happy with it! and after all that theres a small puddle of oil under my intake on my engine..... the fun never ends!

08-07-2008, 10:39 PM	#63
caboose I still know everything Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hamilton, MI Age: 20 Posts: 304 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 89 CRX HF, 96 Accord EX, 88 Dodge Daytona Shelbyz T-tops Rep Power: 6	Buying that would be an absolutely terrible idea... For the third time: AUTOZONE -- JUST THE CAP -- PART #: JP982 -- $16.99 AUTOZONE -- ROTOR -- PART #: JP903 -- $4.99 AUTOZONE -- SET OF NGK PLUGS -- PART #: 7098 -- $1.99 PER PLUG If you are willing do drop that kind of money on a distributor when it's not at all necessary, spend the $8 and get a set of 4 plugs that we know work fine. AUTOZONE -- PLUG WIRES -- PART #: 9566 -- $35.99 Don't waste money on the bigger size, just get the stock. This might be a little more, but if you are willing to spend over $100 on a distributor, when all you need is a cap A new distributor will NOT do anything more than this. Plus you would then have to take off the old one and install the new one, and then set the timing correctly. I can't think of a single reason how replacing the distributor would be better than what I said above. Plus the ebay one is some cheap replacement and will in no way fit as good as the OEM Honda one. Also distributor caps wear on the inside, you would have to take it off to see. __________________ Formerly the.original.kermit Back from the dead... twice I NEED PARTS!!! http://hondaswap.com/parts-sale-trade-wanted/wtb-1989-crx-parts-161172/#post1079066 Check out my progress... http://hondaswap.com/auto-multi-media/my-1989-crx-project-144941/

08-07-2008, 11:00 PM	#64
CRX-YEM Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Wallingford, CT Age: 31 Posts: 4,171 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 CRX Rep Power: 59	I don't think this would be a main relay problem as the OP stated the motor won't turn over. A main relay failure would only prohibit the engine from getting fuel and not start. It will turn over with a bad main relay. To get an idea if it's a flaky main relay, Turn off all your accessories, radio/radar detector etc.... try and keep the noise down in the cabin. Now turn the key one click to the on position you should hear the feul pump turn on and run for a second or two. You should do this a few times to listen for the fuel pump turning on. If you don't hear it, it very may well be the main realy. I would check the battery and make sure the connections are tight. Possibly have the battery tested to see if it needs to be replaced. It cold possibly be the distributor? but If you haven't changes your wires,plugs, and distributor rotor in ages that might be a good start. A simple turn up. No need to buy platinum or some exotic plugs, just go with good 'ol NGK copper they a shit load cheaper they just don't last as long. __________________ Dennis Please don't PM/Email/IM me for technical support. Make a Post!!! 91 CRX DX, 03 Civic EX "There are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who get binary and those who don't." "Of all my imaginary friends I don't think there was one I didn't end up having to kill"

08-07-2008, 11:24 PM	#67
BrutalB83 Crusher of Noob Ambitions Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Oxford, MI Age: 25 Posts: 6,400 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 97 Integra LS Coupe Rep Power: 134	As much as I hate to chime in here, I feel somewhat compelled. Did you change the valve cover gasket when you took it off to paint it? Did you even put the old one back in? This could be a potential source of oil getting into parts of the engine that it shouldn't... __________________ If you find something I say helpful, please rep it up! Also, DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums so we can all benefit from the answers. I will NOT respond to tech-related PMs... 97 Integra LS Coupe: AEM Intake/Megan Header/Magnaflow Exhaust Tokico Shocks & Springs Megan Strut Braces & H-Brace 98-01 Conversion (Front/Rear Bumpers & "Mesh" Alloys)

08-08-2008, 10:13 AM	#69
prpprimo Hondaholic Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: ABQ Posts: 141 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 hatch z6/ 98 coupe z7 Rep Power: 2	Hey, Homeslice...take it to a shop..call it a day.

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