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roman_pushkin · 10-24-2007, 07:30 PM

when i hit high rpms in first and switch to second i have to use a lot of force to get it in or some times it doesn't even go in it just makes a grindding sound! ITs a 90 accord ex what could be the problem?

norcalgsr · 10-24-2007, 07:41 PM

Sounds like a bad synchro in the transmission or possibly a clutch. But if it's only from first to second I would put money on a synchro going out. Check your transmission fluid level and make sure it isn't low.. if it is top it off right away & try to find a leak somewhere. If it's not low I would replace the fluid (I've heard GM Synchromesh helps on grinding Honda transmissions), and hopefully it will help the problem. If that doesn't help you're probably going to need a transmission eventually as the problem will most likely not improve.

boostedf22 · 10-24-2007, 08:23 PM

Well dogging the shit outof your family sedan is the reason behind your transmissions issues.

The reason it's hard to get in gear is prob being slightly bent from ripping the shit out of it. The grinding is def coming from syncros. You have missed to many shifts causing excess brass wear. And now the teeth on the syncros are rounded off and wont catch.

Time for a rebuild, but if the gears are bent, cuz 2nd and reverse are one. The gear itself can run 355 bux. So, junkyard is the next option. If its just the syncro's, it can be rebuilt.

btw- why do people drive accords, like they stole em?

93AccordEX · 10-24-2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by boostedf22

btw- why do people drive accords, like they stole em?

Cause its what we broke bitches got

roman_pushkin · 10-25-2007, 03:08 AM

but the tranny was rebuild and got a new clutch last year, and the guy at autozone told me to just use the same 10 30 oil as in my engine and i think it was Castrol GTX

boostedf22 · 10-25-2007, 03:20 PM

Well theres a problem

Quote:

and the guy at autozone told me to

**cv14500** · 10-25-2007, 03:47 PM

Transmition Is junk Of was good it would shift 2 gear like butter .

boostedf22 · 10-25-2007, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv14500

Transmition Is junk Of was good it would shift 2 gear like butter .

norcalgsr · 10-25-2007, 07:18 PM

That's actually painful to read!

Well now you know what happens when you get technical advice from car parts counter people, and beat the shit out of your tranny with the wrong fluid in it. Sorry but your transmission is definitely headed to a bad place..

boostedf22 · 10-25-2007, 07:22 PM

the op's transmission takes 10w30. Dont have to use honda motor oil.

to the op- reguardless of the rebuild, you have missed to many hard shifts, now it needs to be replaced. WHen it doesnt want to get in gear becuase you have shifted to hard and damn near ripped the shifter cables through the firewall, you bend shit internally.

norcalgsr · 10-25-2007, 07:28 PM

I think Honda MTF would still be a better option than motor oil.. but you're right that wouldn't be the cause of trans failure anyhow.

boostedf22 · 10-25-2007, 08:35 PM

Honda MTF is 10w30 motor oil.

Honda motor oil is 50/50 synthetic.

From what I understand about it, please correct me if you know other wise ?

norcalgsr · 10-25-2007, 09:09 PM

I believe that MTF has some additives that aren't in regular motor oil.. the newer owners manuals say this about the MTF "Honda MTF is preferred. If not available, you may use an API service SG, SH, or SJ motor oil with viscosity of SAE 10W-30 or 10W-40 as a temporary replacement. An SG grade is preferred. However, motor oil does not contain the proper additives and continued use can cause stiffer shifting. Replace as soon as it is convenient."

I don't have any other source to confirm that though.

91_civic_si · 10-26-2007, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cv14500

Transmition Is junk Of was good it would shift 2 gear like butter .

I am extremely sorry but, Where the fuck are you from??? I mean really, who talks like that?

roman_pushkin · 10-26-2007, 02:53 AM

the car has 190,000 miles on it should i replace the tranny and the engine or could i just change the oil in the tranny, its been running on the engine oil for almost a year now, and what type of oil should i put in it

91_civic_si · 10-26-2007, 01:40 PM

with the problems you have and that many miles use gm synchomesh

boostedf22 · 10-26-2007, 03:47 PM

hate to break it to ya, youll just be wasting money on gm syncromesh.

powerdriverh22 · 10-31-2007, 11:28 AM

some times the pressure plate gets hung up on the input shaft and will not allow the car to shift. i have that problem in my h22. take it easy on the tranny for a while. when shifting does the car eventually allow you to go to second (without forcing it)?

roman_pushkin · 11-14-2007, 10:25 PM

all the gears are mest up now they are hard to shift into even like when standing and to get into first gear is a pain. Could it be the clutch or what?

boostedf22 · 11-14-2007, 10:58 PM

once one gear starts to go , they all go.

powerdriverh22 · 11-15-2007, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roman_pushkin

all the gears are mest up now they are hard to shift into even like when standing and to get into first gear is a pain. Could it be the clutch or what?

so is it hard to get the car into gear when you are stopped? if so it could be a few things.

1. clear the gates, move the shifter from left to right a few times rather harsly. try again

if that doesnt work

2. put the car in reverse and roll a few inches.

if that doesnt work

3. work the clutch pedal a few times

if that doesnt work

you pressure plate is probably getting hooked up on the input shaft and is not allowing the clutch to fully disengage. mine does this sometimes. it will work it self out after a while.

90_EF_Hatch · 11-15-2007, 11:45 AM

I have a cable clutch ... when i had this problem i found that it was because my clutch cable wasnt tight enough where it connects to the tranny ... maybe?

10-24-2007, 07:30 PM	#1
roman_pushkin Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	problem with the 2nd gear when i hit high rpms in first and switch to second i have to use a lot of force to get it in or some times it doesn't even go in it just makes a grindding sound! ITs a 90 accord ex what could be the problem?

10-24-2007, 07:41 PM	#2
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 27 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 19	Sounds like a bad synchro in the transmission or possibly a clutch. But if it's only from first to second I would put money on a synchro going out. Check your transmission fluid level and make sure it isn't low.. if it is top it off right away & try to find a leak somewhere. If it's not low I would replace the fluid (I've heard GM Synchromesh helps on grinding Honda transmissions), and hopefully it will help the problem. If that doesn't help you're probably going to need a transmission eventually as the problem will most likely not improve. __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..

10-24-2007, 08:23 PM	#3
boostedf22 dis is why im not Join Date: May 2007 Location: in the land of OZ Posts: 1,571 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Grocery getter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 47	Well dogging the shit outof your family sedan is the reason behind your transmissions issues. The reason it's hard to get in gear is prob being slightly bent from ripping the shit out of it. The grinding is def coming from syncros. You have missed to many shifts causing excess brass wear. And now the teeth on the syncros are rounded off and wont catch. Time for a rebuild, but if the gears are bent, cuz 2nd and reverse are one. The gear itself can run 355 bux. So, junkyard is the next option. If its just the syncro's, it can be rebuilt. btw- why do people drive accords, like they stole em? __________________ Vouches- sleeper88, civicious, stock95, b18a1build Favorite sites: http://www.gen5alive.com/forums/ http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/index.php http://www.cd5tuner.com/vbb/index.php http://forums.nasioc.com/ http://www.vadriven.com/forums/

10-25-2007, 03:08 AM	#5
roman_pushkin Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	but the tranny was rebuild and got a new clutch last year, and the guy at autozone told me to just use the same 10 30 oil as in my engine and i think it was Castrol GTX Last edited by roman_pushkin; 10-25-2007 at 03:16 AM.

10-25-2007, 07:18 PM	#9
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 27 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 19	That's actually painful to read! Well now you know what happens when you get technical advice from car parts counter people, and beat the shit out of your tranny with the wrong fluid in it. Sorry but your transmission is definitely headed to a bad place.. __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..


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10-25-2007, 03:47 PM	#7
cv14500 Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 101 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Transmition Is junk Of was good it would shift 2 gear like butter .

10-25-2007, 07:22 PM	#10
boostedf22 dis is why im not Join Date: May 2007 Location: in the land of OZ Posts: 1,571 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Grocery getter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 47	the op's transmission takes 10w30. Dont have to use honda motor oil. to the op- reguardless of the rebuild, you have missed to many hard shifts, now it needs to be replaced. WHen it doesnt want to get in gear becuase you have shifted to hard and damn near ripped the shifter cables through the firewall, you bend shit internally. __________________ Vouches- sleeper88, civicious, stock95, b18a1build Favorite sites: http://www.gen5alive.com/forums/ http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/index.php http://www.cd5tuner.com/vbb/index.php http://forums.nasioc.com/ http://www.vadriven.com/forums/

10-25-2007, 07:28 PM	#11
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 27 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 19	I think Honda MTF would still be a better option than motor oil.. but you're right that wouldn't be the cause of trans failure anyhow. __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information..

10-25-2007, 08:35 PM	#12
boostedf22 dis is why im not Join Date: May 2007 Location: in the land of OZ Posts: 1,571 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Grocery getter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 47	Honda MTF is 10w30 motor oil. Honda motor oil is 50/50 synthetic. From what I understand about it, please correct me if you know other wise ? __________________ Vouches- sleeper88, civicious, stock95, b18a1build Favorite sites: http://www.gen5alive.com/forums/ http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/index.php http://www.cd5tuner.com/vbb/index.php http://forums.nasioc.com/ http://www.vadriven.com/forums/

10-25-2007, 09:09 PM	#13
norcalgsr Honda Master Technician Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NorCal Age: 27 Posts: 1,168 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 88 Prelude Si and a CBR 600 Hurricane Rep Power: 19	I believe that MTF has some additives that aren't in regular motor oil.. the newer owners manuals say this about the MTF "Honda MTF is preferred. If not available, you may use an API service SG, SH, or SJ motor oil with viscosity of SAE 10W-30 or 10W-40 as a temporary replacement. An SG grade is preferred. However, motor oil does not contain the proper additives and continued use can cause stiffer shifting. Replace as soon as it is convenient." I don't have any other source to confirm that though. __________________ Do not PM with tech questions without providing a link to your topic on the forums. This way everyone has access to the information.. Last edited by norcalgsr; 10-25-2007 at 09:12 PM.

10-26-2007, 02:53 AM	#15
roman_pushkin Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	the car has 190,000 miles on it should i replace the tranny and the engine or could i just change the oil in the tranny, its been running on the engine oil for almost a year now, and what type of oil should i put in it

10-26-2007, 01:40 PM	#16
91_civic_si Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wasilla, Alaska Posts: 606 iTrader: 1 / 100% Rep Power: 13	with the problems you have and that many miles use gm synchomesh

10-26-2007, 03:47 PM	#17
boostedf22 dis is why im not Join Date: May 2007 Location: in the land of OZ Posts: 1,571 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Grocery getter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 47	hate to break it to ya, youll just be wasting money on gm syncromesh. __________________ Vouches- sleeper88, civicious, stock95, b18a1build Favorite sites: http://www.gen5alive.com/forums/ http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/index.php http://www.cd5tuner.com/vbb/index.php http://forums.nasioc.com/ http://www.vadriven.com/forums/

10-31-2007, 11:28 AM	#18
powerdriverh22 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: spfld, mo Posts: 720 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	some times the pressure plate gets hung up on the input shaft and will not allow the car to shift. i have that problem in my h22. take it easy on the tranny for a while. when shifting does the car eventually allow you to go to second (without forcing it)? __________________ 94 Accord, JDM h22a, bpi velocity stack, euro r tb, ported head, ss flat valves, s2p1 cams, bold fab header (fs), 3in exhaust

11-14-2007, 10:25 PM	#19
roman_pushkin Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	all the gears are mest up now they are hard to shift into even like when standing and to get into first gear is a pain. Could it be the clutch or what?

11-14-2007, 10:58 PM	#20
boostedf22 dis is why im not Join Date: May 2007 Location: in the land of OZ Posts: 1,571 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Grocery getter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 47	once one gear starts to go , they all go. __________________ Vouches- sleeper88, civicious, stock95, b18a1build Favorite sites: http://www.gen5alive.com/forums/ http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/index.php http://www.cd5tuner.com/vbb/index.php http://forums.nasioc.com/ http://www.vadriven.com/forums/

11-15-2007, 11:45 AM	#22
90_EF_Hatch Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Garland Texas Age: 18 Posts: 1,088 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 BMW 325i sedan Rep Power: 34	I have a cable clutch ... when i had this problem i found that it was because my clutch cable wasnt tight enough where it connects to the tranny ... maybe?

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