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eg6sir · 01-26-2007, 03:27 PM

about $3200-$3300 for complete change-over not including mounts.. i thinks its totally doable with $3600

but more props to Andrew for having a built SOHC that'll run with b-series VTECs

klyph · 01-26-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by E_SolSi

you're not allowed to have an oppinion on this... your "swap" would be easier if you simply built a tube frame and bolted 78cvcc body panels to it
all those -40 degree days made you lose your damn mind

Eh, It was lost a long time ago. And like the sig says, I don't know shit about Hondas. But I am inadvertantly preferential to the D series, so I applaude Andrew for this killer project

E_SolSi · 01-26-2007, 03:43 PM

formby · 01-26-2007, 05:55 PM

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void his warantee by working the engine himself

lets not forget that engines like this have ZERO warantee

Calesta · 01-26-2007, 09:42 PM

Shop and warranty

And

pretty much any good shop will warranty their stuff, at least for a little while.

Andrew · 01-27-2007, 12:15 AM

IT RUNS!

Fired it up tonight, but it's not idling. at all. I can hold it steady at 1,000rpm and even lower, and it's great!, but it dies when I let off the throttle.
Steadily throwing code 10 (IAT). It's plugged in, but who knows... just takes time to tweak the kinks out.
Pics and Vids(god it'll take a while for these) on the way! (uploading)

And as far as the engine sounds... it sounds like a $3600 motor should sound like. revs up like a freaking F1 car(thanks to the light flywheel), and sounds badass with the stage 2 cam!
I've got to say. All this work-up about KMS's garbage has pretty much gone away. I'm just happy to hear it run, and not have any valve chatter or anything. It's runs BEA-utifully.

Andrew · 01-27-2007, 12:50 AM

Abel(Taco15) in motion!

My buddy Eli in the red beany, my brother in law, Mac_24_Seven in the Michigan hat, and Abel bolting stuff in.

I even dared to get my hands dirty!

After a bit of tuggin

I'll snap a better "final" picture tomorrow. We're all pretty wiped.
Videos are gonna kick my butt. I'll eventually get the good ones uploaded.

Enjoy!
-Andrew

TurboMirage · 01-27-2007, 01:43 AM

looks hot after the wire tuck!!

eg6sir · 01-27-2007, 01:44 AM

awesome!!

Seany-izzle · 01-27-2007, 01:50 AM

awww its to cute and tiny. that wire tuck really makes it look smaller.

nice work!

NissanNiNjA2nd · 01-27-2007, 04:39 AM

Now go run the PISS out of that thing.

YouKnowWhoIBee · 01-27-2007, 08:09 AM

Get it tuned, and wrinkle black that valve cover...

Andrew · 01-27-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by YouKnowWhoIBee

Get it tuned, and wrinkle black that valve cover...

1. Tuning is after I run it a little bit. It's got a S2 basemap in it, and it seems to run GREAT with it!
2. I was actually thinking wrinkle red... like ITR red... what do you guys think?

Ahhhh... "the morning after" .. haha

Airjockie · 01-27-2007, 09:58 AM

Dooooo eeeeeetttt!

eg6sir · 01-27-2007, 11:58 AM

yes.. do eeiiit..

Estorvito · 01-27-2007, 12:16 PM

looks good....nice job

YouKnowWhoIBee · 01-27-2007, 12:30 PM

Red would be ok... but definatly stand out with your clean wiretuck. I had wrinkle red valve cover on my old green civic hatch and i felt like a douche when i opened my hood and had that tiny red valve cover. Just my opinion

formby · 01-27-2007, 02:18 PM

great job on the swap...
i wish i couldve been there, looks like you guys had lots of fun....

i always thought that "racing" engines did not have warantty, just oem rebuilds...
it must be on special condidtions... the first Machine Sho i used did not want to warantty my first LS because i used b16 pistons....

eg6sir · 01-27-2007, 02:32 PM

doo eeiiitt!

get_nick · 01-27-2007, 03:17 PM

so what are your power goals out of this engine? and is this the one you plan on turbo'ing even with the high comp?

Calesta · 01-27-2007, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blanco

I should probably reread what I type before I hit post more often.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

1. Tuning is after I run it a little bit. It's got a S2 basemap in it, and it seems to run GREAT with it!
2. I was actually thinking wrinkle red... like ITR red... what do you guys think?

Ahhhh... "the morning after" .. haha

I would still get the air/fuel ratios checked out before you do too much driving- you don't want to be running too lean or too aggressive on the timing and overexpand a piston or something. Did the basemap come from KMS as the recommended setup for that engine?

on getting it done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by formby

i always thought that "racing" engines did not have warantty, just oem rebuilds...
it must be on special condidtions... the first Machine Sho i used did not want to warantty my first LS because i used b16 pistons....

It all depends on the shop- but if a shop isn't going to give you any kind of warranty on their work, don't buy from them.

Andrew · 01-28-2007, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calesta

I would still get the air/fuel ratios checked out before you do too much driving- you don't want to be running too lean or too aggressive on the timing and overexpand a piston or something. Did the basemap come from KMS as the recommended setup for that engine?

Ok. I'll try to get my hands on a wideband soon. Thanks for the reminder!
The basemap came from the guy thats gonna tune it. It told him specs of the motor, and he chose the best one he could think of. After I break it in, he's gonna tune it for real, by sitting in the pass. seat and tune it with Crome with a wideband 'till it's perfect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eg6sir

doo eeiiitt!

Damn.. now I REALLY want to do it!!!
Looks so good....

Calesta · 01-28-2007, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

Ok. I'll try to get my hands on a wideband soon. Thanks for the reminder!
The basemap came from the guy thats gonna tune it. It told him specs of the motor, and he chose the best one he could think of. After I break it in, he's gonna tune it for real, by sitting in the pass. seat and tune it with Crome with a wideband 'till it's perfect.

That's good- if he's a good tuner, then your basemap should be pretty stable on your setup. I hope.

Andrew · 01-28-2007, 03:41 PM

He's an old friend of Taco15, and has always done great work, so I'm confident in his 'guessing' my basemap.

Abel's basemap was right on the money, so I think I'll be straight!

Andrew · 01-28-2007, 05:19 PM

I just drove it down the road!
Put an alternator belt on and went for it.
felt awsome!!!

01-26-2007, 09:42 PM	#355
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	Shop and warranty And pretty much any good shop will warranty their stuff, at least for a little while. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

01-27-2007, 12:15 AM	#356
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	IT RUNS! Fired it up tonight, but it's not idling. at all. I can hold it steady at 1,000rpm and even lower, and it's great!, but it dies when I let off the throttle. Steadily throwing code 10 (IAT). It's plugged in, but who knows... just takes time to tweak the kinks out. Pics and Vids(god it'll take a while for these) on the way! (uploading) And as far as the engine sounds... it sounds like a $3600 motor should sound like. revs up like a freaking F1 car(thanks to the light flywheel), and sounds badass with the stage 2 cam! I've got to say. All this work-up about KMS's garbage has pretty much gone away. I'm just happy to hear it run, and not have any valve chatter or anything. It's runs BEA-utifully. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

01-27-2007, 12:50 AM	#357
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Abel(Taco15) in motion! My buddy Eli in the red beany, my brother in law, Mac_24_Seven in the Michigan hat, and Abel bolting stuff in. I even dared to get my hands dirty! After a bit of tuggin I'll snap a better "final" picture tomorrow. We're all pretty wiped. Videos are gonna kick my butt. I'll eventually get the good ones uploaded. Enjoy! -Andrew __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

01-27-2007, 01:43 AM	#358
TurboMirage Running on two cylinders Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southbridge, MA Age: 25 Posts: 18,155 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer RPW E5 Coupe Rep Power: 337	looks hot after the wire tuck!! __________________ Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe. See what is done to the little Evo5. "If you don't like what I've done with my car, I will gladly refund all the money you put into it."

01-27-2007, 01:50 AM	#360
Seany-izzle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: In a fucking house. Age: 25 Posts: 7,751 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 96	awww its to cute and tiny. that wire tuck really makes it look smaller. nice work! __________________ My name is Sean.


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01-27-2007, 04:39 AM	#361
NissanNiNjA2nd Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,581 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 38	Now go run the PISS out of that thing.

01-27-2007, 08:09 AM	#362
YouKnowWhoIBee my avatar is better. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Maryland Age: 25 Posts: 2,241 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 51	Get it tuned, and wrinkle black that valve cover...

01-27-2007, 09:58 AM	#364
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01-27-2007, 12:16 PM	#366
Estorvito Soy Boricua Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 2,028 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: BoOsted fodo civic Rep Power: 32	looks good....nice job __________________ LBR=LowBudgetRacing My civic build thread

01-27-2007, 12:30 PM	#367
YouKnowWhoIBee my avatar is better. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Maryland Age: 25 Posts: 2,241 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 51	Red would be ok... but definatly stand out with your clean wiretuck. I had wrinkle red valve cover on my old green civic hatch and i felt like a douche when i opened my hood and had that tiny red valve cover. Just my opinion

01-27-2007, 02:18 PM	#368
formby learning in progress Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 27 Posts: 5,742 iTrader: 4 / 100% Ride: 00' Montero sport, 99' lsv civic Rep Power: 93	great job on the swap... i wish i couldve been there, looks like you guys had lots of fun.... i always thought that "racing" engines did not have warantty, just oem rebuilds... it must be on special condidtions... the first Machine Sho i used did not want to warantty my first LS because i used b16 pistons.... __________________ SOMETIMES IN LIFE WE ALL NEED CHANGE! http://pandora.com/

01-27-2007, 03:17 PM	#370
get_nick The G37.... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Washington State Age: 29 Posts: 9,992 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Black G37, '07 R6 Rep Power: 266	so what are your power goals out of this engine? and is this the one you plan on turbo'ing even with the high comp? __________________ I changed the page layout. let me know what you think. I need feedback. www.obamacies.com

01-28-2007, 03:41 PM	#374
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	He's an old friend of Taco15, and has always done great work, so I'm confident in his 'guessing' my basemap. Abel's basemap was right on the money, so I think I'll be straight! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

01-28-2007, 05:19 PM	#375
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	I just drove it down the road! Put an alternator belt on and went for it. felt awsome!!! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

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