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klyph · 06-06-2007, 12:41 PM

You'll obviously want to get a gasket the same bore as your cylinders.
The head gasket is obviously the cheapest solution.
Pistons sounds like a lot of work, but if you want to do it right, and you have the $$ then do it.
Head-once again $$ so that's up to you, but a ported/polished head will make more power with less effort, so figure out if it's worth it to you.

Personally, I'm a cheapass, I would get a thicker head gasket, or try stacking HG's

(jk) and spend my $$ on the best tuner I could find. Boost + High Compression is sedious bisanus. You might want to run lower boost and some NAWS...

Andrew · 06-06-2007, 01:35 PM

Stacking HG FTW! lol

My tuner is pretty good. He's built and tuned boosted motors before, and I trust him.

If I'm around 10:1, I don't think I'll push it over 6-7lbs. It obviously depends greatly on what size turbo I go with.
I expect to be >200whp. And I think a T3 .42/.48 will get me there easily enough(180 range). Plus it'll be cheap...

klyph · 06-06-2007, 02:27 PM

Do it up man.

eg6sir · 06-06-2007, 02:31 PM

time to find an HF manifold

klyph · 06-06-2007, 02:41 PM

If you got one of those 2 piece headers, turn it into a topmount.

Andrew · 06-06-2007, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klyph

If you got one of those 2 piece headers, turn it into a topmount.

Actually I've read about doin this. Sounds pretty sweet!
I've got one laying around....

Andrew · 06-06-2007, 08:27 PM

So I've been playing around with the Zeal Compression calculator....
If I found a 0.060" head gasket- I'd get a 10.39:1 compression. I can boost that well enough.
If I STACKED (2) z6 gaskets together( each 0.037"), for a 0.074" HG... I'd get a 10.05:1 compression ratio. boosting 6 psi, my effective ratio would be 14.15:1.

Has anybody ever heard of stacking them? lol.
I know it's ghetto, but I'm very curious.

crnsx1988 · 06-06-2007, 09:06 PM

I see that you're wanting more power. Go to homemadeturbo.com

Andrew · 06-06-2007, 09:19 PM

I've been a member there for a while... thanks for the link anyway though.

I was kinda joking about stacking the head gaskets. I know it's a pretty dumb idea because 1) I'll be doubling my chances of getting a leak, and 2) they don't like to seal very well to other gaskets.

Cometic, however makes custom gaskets, and I'll call them tomorrow and get a quote from 'em.
If it's under $200 I'll consider it.

mac_24_seven · 06-07-2007, 07:31 AM

Thank you.

I didn't think it was a very good idea.

HEY... So I don't forget, bring down your floor jack. PLEAAAAAAAZZZZEEE?? I don't want to swap wheels/camber kit with a scissor jack

Andrew · 06-07-2007, 12:24 PM

EXCELLENT!

Talked with Cometic gaskets, and they can make custom gaskets up to 0.175".
With a 0.100" gasket, my compression would be 9.49:1!
Perfect!

And it's only around $100 for it, and it's done in around 3 days.
ta-daaaa

klyph · 06-07-2007, 12:32 PM

Booya
What's your turbo setup gonna be?

phyregod · 06-07-2007, 12:55 PM

Thats a fat gasket!

Andrew · 06-07-2007, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klyph

Booya
What's your turbo setup gonna be?

Heres what I'm thinking:
- T3 .42/.48.- easy to find, cheap, disposable (like a camera

), can easily find manifolds and downpipes.
- Probably go with a log manifold unless I can find a decent used one.
- Ebay or DSM BOV
- 38mm WG
- Ebay intercooler. (I'd LOVE to get my hands on a 'backdoor' intercooler. but alas, there $600+... lolz)
- IDK what I'll do about the piping. I might just get one of the Ebay piping/coupler kits and find some nice t-bolts to hold everything down.
- I've heard stock injecters are supposed to be good up to around 200hp, but I could always just get some DSM bluetops.
- Install my Y8 IM unless I can find another good deal on a Blox or S2 like eg6sir linked me earlier(unfortunatly it was when I was broke...

)

...or something like that...

mac_24_seven · 06-08-2007, 10:38 PM

I've always wanted to mess with forced induction... This is gonna be a fun little project.

It's a shame though.. Were never gonna get any work done on the 240 sx

Andrew · 06-09-2007, 08:14 AM

You know, about that.

I've been looking around for stuff for it.
I'll buy that Holley Mech. 450 after I get our RC cars going.
Do you want to go in 1/2'zys with me on those cool Diamond Racing wheels that were posted on TI? It'll be right at $400 for front(15x6) and rears(16x8)
And I'll be coming down with the pressure washer soon and clean it up.
(Keep in mind that I'll have about 2 months off of school for summer(June 29-Aug 20), so I'll be able to spend lots of time dedicated to helping tracy and your dad rip the 4.3 out of Spongebob and what-not.

Geeze.. I guess I'll have to start up another build thread for that thing!

Andrew · 06-21-2007, 03:44 PM

New gasket showed up from Cometic today!

75.5mm bore
0.074" thick! it's a beast, but it's all metal and will drop my compression to 10.05:1!

-Andrew

90crxfreak · 06-21-2007, 04:24 PM

thats gotta be one of the thickest head gaskets i have ever seen!

klyph · 06-21-2007, 04:38 PM

Looks good. Buy more parts!

Andrew · 06-22-2007, 08:28 AM

I'm in summer classes right nwo, but I'll be done with them next Thursday. Then I'll be working full time for about a month and a half solid, so I'll have the financial backing for sure.

I've got a couple more things on the way.
and I'm talking with a guy here in town(local site) about a .50 trim turbo and manifold.
I've got my oil sandwich on the way so I can run my oil pressure gauge and my turbo feed line

And yeah man, this is probably the thickest one i've ever seen too!
Just think dude, they also sell 0.125". Thats almost twice as big! my compression would be 9:1 with it!

Andrew · 06-24-2007, 07:15 PM

Oil sandwich came in. kitty wanted to check her oil temp and pressure, so I did a quick and simple install on her:

Also did a little photoshoot yesterday with my bro (mac_24_seven). I'll get the pics up in a sec. gotta sort through 'em.

Matts96HB · 06-24-2007, 10:59 PM

lmao @ the kitty

mac_24_seven · 06-25-2007, 08:06 AM

oH NO3Z!11!! Poor Pockets!!

Whats sad is, thats not the first time Andrew has defiled her with car parts

Kanned · 06-25-2007, 08:10 AM

Damn, Andrew... I just read up on this after missing a whole lot and I want to congratulate you. Good to see you guys are still having fun with this, keep the updates coming =)

i_shift · 06-25-2007, 10:31 AM

Get You Hands Out Of Your Pockets!

06-06-2007, 12:41 PM	#776
klyph Dismember Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole, AK Age: 25 Posts: 4,224 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Whatever i can get behind the wheel of Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 263	You'll obviously want to get a gasket the same bore as your cylinders. The head gasket is obviously the cheapest solution. Pistons sounds like a lot of work, but if you want to do it right, and you have the $$ then do it. Head-once again $$ so that's up to you, but a ported/polished head will make more power with less effort, so figure out if it's worth it to you. Personally, I'm a cheapass, I would get a thicker head gasket, or try stacking HG's (jk) and spend my $$ on the best tuner I could find. Boost + High Compression is sedious bisanus. You might want to run lower boost and some NAWS... __________________ Go to work, Act normal, Believe the News, Save for your old age, Obey the Law Repeat after Me: I am Free

06-06-2007, 01:35 PM	#777
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Stacking HG FTW! lol My tuner is pretty good. He's built and tuned boosted motors before, and I trust him. If I'm around 10:1, I don't think I'll push it over 6-7lbs. It obviously depends greatly on what size turbo I go with. I expect to be >200whp. And I think a T3 .42/.48 will get me there easily enough(180 range). Plus it'll be cheap... __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

06-06-2007, 02:27 PM	#778
klyph Dismember Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole, AK Age: 25 Posts: 4,224 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Whatever i can get behind the wheel of Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 263	Do it up man. __________________ Go to work, Act normal, Believe the News, Save for your old age, Obey the Law Repeat after Me: I am Free

06-06-2007, 02:41 PM	#780
klyph Dismember Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole, AK Age: 25 Posts: 4,224 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Whatever i can get behind the wheel of Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 263	If you got one of those 2 piece headers, turn it into a topmount. __________________ Go to work, Act normal, Believe the News, Save for your old age, Obey the Law Repeat after Me: I am Free

06-06-2007, 08:27 PM	#782
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	So I've been playing around with the Zeal Compression calculator.... If I found a 0.060" head gasket- I'd get a 10.39:1 compression. I can boost that well enough. If I STACKED (2) z6 gaskets together( each 0.037"), for a 0.074" HG... I'd get a 10.05:1 compression ratio. boosting 6 psi, my effective ratio would be 14.15:1. Has anybody ever heard of stacking them? lol. I know it's ghetto, but I'm very curious. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.


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06-06-2007, 09:06 PM	#783
crnsx1988 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 50 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 13	I see that you're wanting more power. Go to homemadeturbo.com

06-06-2007, 09:19 PM	#784
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	I've been a member there for a while... thanks for the link anyway though. I was kinda joking about stacking the head gaskets. I know it's a pretty dumb idea because 1) I'll be doubling my chances of getting a leak, and 2) they don't like to seal very well to other gaskets. Cometic, however makes custom gaskets, and I'll call them tomorrow and get a quote from 'em. If it's under $200 I'll consider it. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

06-07-2007, 07:31 AM	#785
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	Thank you. I didn't think it was a very good idea. HEY... So I don't forget, bring down your floor jack. PLEAAAAAAAZZZZEEE?? I don't want to swap wheels/camber kit with a scissor jack __________________ 1994 Acura Integra GS-R Sedan My MAIN DB8 project thread on Honda-Tech: Very detailed of EVERYTHING I've done to my car. Contact me for ITR header skid plates: $40.00 shipped!!!

06-07-2007, 12:24 PM	#786
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	EXCELLENT! Talked with Cometic gaskets, and they can make custom gaskets up to 0.175". With a 0.100" gasket, my compression would be 9.49:1! Perfect! And it's only around $100 for it, and it's done in around 3 days. ta-daaaa __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters. Last edited by Andrew; 06-07-2007 at 12:26 PM.

06-07-2007, 12:32 PM	#787
klyph Dismember Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole, AK Age: 25 Posts: 4,224 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Whatever i can get behind the wheel of Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 263	Booya What's your turbo setup gonna be? __________________ Go to work, Act normal, Believe the News, Save for your old age, Obey the Law Repeat after Me: I am Free

06-08-2007, 10:38 PM	#790
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	I've always wanted to mess with forced induction... This is gonna be a fun little project. It's a shame though.. Were never gonna get any work done on the 240 sx

06-09-2007, 08:14 AM	#791
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	You know, about that. I've been looking around for stuff for it. I'll buy that Holley Mech. 450 after I get our RC cars going. Do you want to go in 1/2'zys with me on those cool Diamond Racing wheels that were posted on TI? It'll be right at $400 for front(15x6) and rears(16x8) And I'll be coming down with the pressure washer soon and clean it up. (Keep in mind that I'll have about 2 months off of school for summer(June 29-Aug 20), so I'll be able to spend lots of time dedicated to helping tracy and your dad rip the 4.3 out of Spongebob and what-not. Geeze.. I guess I'll have to start up another build thread for that thing! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters. Last edited by Andrew; 06-09-2007 at 08:16 AM.

06-21-2007, 03:44 PM	#792
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	New gasket showed up from Cometic today! 75.5mm bore 0.074" thick! it's a beast, but it's all metal and will drop my compression to 10.05:1! -Andrew __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

06-21-2007, 04:24 PM	#793
90crxfreak Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 31 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 6	thats gotta be one of the thickest head gaskets i have ever seen!

06-24-2007, 10:59 PM	#797
Matts96HB F.I. Junkie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Spokane, WA Age: 19 Posts: 2,658 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1996 Civic, 1992 Accord Rep Power: 101	lmao @ the kitty __________________ XBOX LIVE GT: teb00stcat (00's are zeroes) -320 WHP EJ6-

06-21-2007, 04:38 PM	#794
klyph Dismember Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole, AK Age: 25 Posts: 4,224 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Whatever i can get behind the wheel of Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 263	Looks good. Buy more parts! __________________ Go to work, Act normal, Believe the News, Save for your old age, Obey the Law Repeat after Me: I am Free

06-22-2007, 08:28 AM	#795
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	I'm in summer classes right nwo, but I'll be done with them next Thursday. Then I'll be working full time for about a month and a half solid, so I'll have the financial backing for sure. I've got a couple more things on the way. and I'm talking with a guy here in town(local site) about a .50 trim turbo and manifold. I've got my oil sandwich on the way so I can run my oil pressure gauge and my turbo feed line And yeah man, this is probably the thickest one i've ever seen too! Just think dude, they also sell 0.125". Thats almost twice as big! my compression would be 9:1 with it! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

06-24-2007, 07:15 PM	#796
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Oil sandwich came in. kitty wanted to check her oil temp and pressure, so I did a quick and simple install on her: Also did a little photoshoot yesterday with my bro (mac_24_seven). I'll get the pics up in a sec. gotta sort through 'em. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

06-25-2007, 08:06 AM	#798
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	oH NO3Z!11!! Poor Pockets!! Whats sad is, thats not the first time Andrew has defiled her with car parts __________________ 1994 Acura Integra GS-R Sedan My MAIN DB8 project thread on Honda-Tech: Very detailed of EVERYTHING I've done to my car. Contact me for ITR header skid plates: $40.00 shipped!!!

06-25-2007, 10:31 AM	#800
i_shift Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Get You Hands Out Of Your Pockets!

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