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crnsx1988 · 08-17-2007, 12:28 AM

Great job!.

daveholiday · 08-17-2007, 04:52 AM

haha, well I had read it earlier today, and then I read his post and I thought wait a sec..

BrutalB83 · 08-17-2007, 01:06 PM

So are we going to see a "perfomance smiley install" on the valve cover anytime soon?

Andrew · 08-17-2007, 02:37 PM

hmmm.... I do need to paint it soon..............

Andrew · 08-17-2007, 09:44 PM

Heres the latest guys....

-Got the starting problem fixed.. it was just a loose signal wire. Go it taken care of.
-The car runs PERFECT
-But driving is a different story.....
I don't know if it's my allignment, CV axles, Toe/Caster, or All of the above making it shake when it's under power(after about 15mph it starts. Haven't been above 30 or so)

Heres a series of vids showing how my evening went.
Terrance (Mac_24_seven) is filming.

LOL at a video of Terrance riding in the engine bay trying to figure out what the shaking is all about:

LOL at Terrance being DEAF hahaha

So this is where I stand....
I don't know whether I should adjust/tweak the traction bar toe/caster and stuff, or should I just take it to an allignment shop and have it checked out?

idk... i'm going to sleep. I've had a few nice drinks with some good tasting Bacardi 151.... and I'm ready to chill out and watch some tube...
Later guys
-Andrew

mac_24_seven · 08-18-2007, 09:18 PM

Glad I could help out and give you something to laugh at.

Just remember... I'm your wire trouble shooting daddy

daveholiday · 08-18-2007, 10:32 PM

lol I don't think I've ever seen anything funnier than someone filming the engine while riding in the engine bay

like just saying "oh he filmed while riding on the engine" isn't funny really though

maybe its that tequila talking again

regardless though, I'm curious as to how you fix the axle problem, because I know you will, you're like a super hero and super hero's always win

Andrew · 08-19-2007, 07:59 AM

hahaha.. . FAR from it my-man... FAR from it...

Idk what i'm gonna do.
-It could be a motor mount issue- but the civic it was mounted in before my rex drove perfect?!
-It could be an allignment issue(the shaking and crap), and the axle is o.k., but when I drive and turn, it makes a wierd jerking/popping thing that leads me to believe it's the CV's.

I don't know man.... I just got paid a nice check, but I do NOT want to buy some Hasport mounts just to find out these were fine....

I think my best bet right now is to trailer it to the Allignment shop and let them tell me what they think.
I start school Monday, and even though I have other vehicles here to drive, I still need to get this fixed ASAP. (obviously..)

Ideas??

daveholiday · 08-19-2007, 09:20 AM

well as far as the popping noise, my rex did that (stock cv's and axles of course) and it did turn out to be my cv's, and the noise sounds just like yours. My cv's though had a complete tear around the boot of all but 1 joint. It was cheaper and easier to just replace the entire axle. But the popping noise, unless the cv's are brand new, that's my guess. I'd check to see the cost of replacing just the joints vs the entire axle, because the whole axle may be cheaper.

As far as the mounting and such, the only thing I could possibly guess is that whoever had the rex before you had seriously wrecked it and fucked something up, and it was repaired and lined up with your d series, but even still it should fit you b16 with the mounts so just ignore all that shit above lol.

Definately just get it checked at a shop first becasue that's the worst feeling, of buying something that you think you need and you end up not needing, especially something expensive like motor mounts.

Andrew · 08-19-2007, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveholiday

Definately just get it checked at a shop first becasue that's the worst feeling, of buying something that you think you need and you end up not needing, especially something expensive like motor mounts.

Exactly. I don't plan on changing anything until I get the toe/caster/allignment checked out.

The boots are not torn at all, but, anything could've happened when I put them in. (however, I've done a bunch of motor swaps, and this wasn't anything different, so I don't know what was different...)

But you know what? when I just typed (up there ^) about allignment and stuff, I got to thinking about my wheels being way out of balance. I don't know HOW it could've happened, because I was driving last week 80mph with no problem at all...but I guess it's not impossible.

Maybe I'll try that. I'll put some different wheels on there and see what it does.

daveholiday · 08-19-2007, 04:17 PM

that actually brings up a good point that I didn't think of either, I had bought a set of fat fives and all the sudden when I got up around 30 or so my car started shaking bad and when i would brake it was even worse, I thought it just being because they were bigger because rex's come with 14's, these were 15's. Well I have 17's on now and its all fine, and found out that the fatties weren't balanced for shit. so yeah, try that too, that could definately be your problem.

Andrew · 08-19-2007, 05:12 PM

Well it really feels like the axles are 'jumping'.
We put in the rear mount bolt(PITA) and it's still doing it.(it was "in", but I couldn't find the threads, but it's all good now)

I honestly think it's got to do with the Full Race TBar affecting the Toe of the wheels.
I just need to start measuring. If I can get it close to straight (at least enough to get me to the allignment shop) then I'll be happy.

daveholiday · 08-19-2007, 08:03 PM

I've never heard of jumping axles..

If you get the tbar and stuff adjusted, do you know if the alignment shop will further adjust it to get it more aligned?

Andrew · 08-19-2007, 10:49 PM

No, I can't say for sure what they'll do to it, but I hope they can help me out. if I can't do it.
Full-Race recommends getting your car alligned after installing it, so obviously it messes with stuff...

I'll play around with it. I sure 'nuff hope thats the problem.....

daveholiday · 08-19-2007, 11:02 PM

seriously, otherwise you have a problem that I have no idea what it is and even less of an idea of how to fix lol

Andrew · 08-19-2007, 11:12 PM

I guess I would find out exactly what they did... so I'd know for future refference.

does that count for anything?

daveholiday · 08-19-2007, 11:37 PM

yes because then if I decide to do your exact swap and I have a problem, then I'll ask you how you fixed it lol

that probably won't happen but the more information you have on anything always seems to put you in a better position, especially in the "in case" area.

mac_24_seven · 08-20-2007, 07:49 AM

So when are you gonna take it to the shop and have it checked out?

And really, WHERE are you gonna take it? I would want to take it to someplace where they have adjusted stuff like your's before, ya know? Probably gonna be hard to find one so you'll have to go to some hole in the wall crap place where they will just screw you

Probably no chance of getting this fixed before track day, this friday, right?

Andrew · 08-20-2007, 09:18 AM

I planned on Sirmon's Allignment. Thats where we take all of our other cars, but I don't know if they Cater to imports very well. I'd probably just like to find them at a time when I can STAY there and watch what they do.

I sure hope I can be ready for Friday! I'll try man. If nothing else I'd like to go and watch you run!

mac_24_seven · 08-20-2007, 10:12 AM

Nope.. No running for me.. OR ANYBODY.

Damnit, they canceled it AGAIN. Next test N tune is on the 14th of sept.

SO, we both have some time to get running right

daveholiday · 08-20-2007, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac_24_seven

So when are you gonna take it to the shop and have it checked out?

And really, WHERE are you gonna take it? I would want to take it to someplace where they have adjusted stuff like your's before, ya know? Probably gonna be hard to find one so you'll have to go to some hole in the wall crap place where they will just screw you

Probably no chance of getting this fixed before track day, this friday, right?

thats somethin that really needs people who've done stuff like yours before, cuz any old joe schmoe place will be like oh yeah we're an alignment shop we can take care of it and then when they look at it and haven't done anything like yours on a car like yours before, you end up with a car with the wheels on sideways or somethin retarded

mac_24_seven · 08-21-2007, 10:04 AM

Thats how my moon cuts turned out

Aside from the paint looking like crap, it turned out great!

Ya need to get ahold of a spare VC Andrew, so I can do your's. I'll go in half so I can use it while I re-paint mine.

Andrew · 08-21-2007, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac_24_seven

Ya need to get ahold of a spare VC Andrew, so I can do your's. I'll go in half so I can use it while I re-paint mine.

Lets find one then. That sounds like a plan

mac_24_seven · 08-22-2007, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

Lets find one then. That sounds like a plan

You know I can find some dealz baby! Found 2

Ones for free if you pick it up and one's for $20.00.

I say get both and I'll give you the $10.00 and lets see if we can't do the moon cuts, paint it pretty and sell it for more flow

Go on TI and pm the 2 guys who posted in the thread, or the one.. Whatever

Andrew · 08-22-2007, 07:50 AM

I posted in the thread.

Sweet deal Gee. thx

08-17-2007, 04:52 AM	#952
daveholiday Sonnova Bitch! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 1,662 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 GSX-R 600, 2003 Santa Fe GLS Rep Power: 44	haha, well I had read it earlier today, and then I read his post and I thought wait a sec.. __________________ http://davesstainedglass.webs.com/

08-17-2007, 01:06 PM	#953
BrutalB83 Brutal Moderator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Rochester Hills, MI Age: 26 Posts: 7,822 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 97 Integra LS Coupe Rep Power: 191	So are we going to see a "perfomance smiley install" on the valve cover anytime soon? __________________ If you find something I say helpful, please send some rep my way! Also, DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums so we can all benefit from the answers. I will NOT respond to tech-related PMs... PSN Network ID: BrutalB83

08-17-2007, 02:37 PM	#954
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	hmmm.... I do need to paint it soon.............. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

08-17-2007, 09:44 PM	#955
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Heres the latest guys.... -Got the starting problem fixed.. it was just a loose signal wire. Go it taken care of. -The car runs PERFECT -But driving is a different story..... I don't know if it's my allignment, CV axles, Toe/Caster, or All of the above making it shake when it's under power(after about 15mph it starts. Haven't been above 30 or so) Heres a series of vids showing how my evening went. Terrance (Mac_24_seven) is filming. LOL at a video of Terrance riding in the engine bay trying to figure out what the shaking is all about: LOL at Terrance being DEAF hahaha So this is where I stand.... I don't know whether I should adjust/tweak the traction bar toe/caster and stuff, or should I just take it to an allignment shop and have it checked out? idk... i'm going to sleep. I've had a few nice drinks with some good tasting Bacardi 151.... and I'm ready to chill out and watch some tube... Later guys -Andrew __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

08-18-2007, 10:32 PM	#957
daveholiday Sonnova Bitch! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 1,662 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 GSX-R 600, 2003 Santa Fe GLS Rep Power: 44	lol I don't think I've ever seen anything funnier than someone filming the engine while riding in the engine bay like just saying "oh he filmed while riding on the engine" isn't funny really though maybe its that tequila talking again regardless though, I'm curious as to how you fix the axle problem, because I know you will, you're like a super hero and super hero's always win __________________ http://davesstainedglass.webs.com/


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08-17-2007, 12:28 AM	#951
crnsx1988 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 50 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 13	Great job!.

08-18-2007, 09:18 PM	#956
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	Glad I could help out and give you something to laugh at. Just remember... I'm your wire trouble shooting daddy

08-19-2007, 07:59 AM	#958
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	hahaha.. . FAR from it my-man... FAR from it... Idk what i'm gonna do. -It could be a motor mount issue- but the civic it was mounted in before my rex drove perfect?! -It could be an allignment issue(the shaking and crap), and the axle is o.k., but when I drive and turn, it makes a wierd jerking/popping thing that leads me to believe it's the CV's. I don't know man.... I just got paid a nice check, but I do NOT want to buy some Hasport mounts just to find out these were fine.... I think my best bet right now is to trailer it to the Allignment shop and let them tell me what they think. I start school Monday, and even though I have other vehicles here to drive, I still need to get this fixed ASAP. (obviously..) Ideas?? __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

08-19-2007, 09:20 AM	#959
daveholiday Sonnova Bitch! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 1,662 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 GSX-R 600, 2003 Santa Fe GLS Rep Power: 44	well as far as the popping noise, my rex did that (stock cv's and axles of course) and it did turn out to be my cv's, and the noise sounds just like yours. My cv's though had a complete tear around the boot of all but 1 joint. It was cheaper and easier to just replace the entire axle. But the popping noise, unless the cv's are brand new, that's my guess. I'd check to see the cost of replacing just the joints vs the entire axle, because the whole axle may be cheaper. As far as the mounting and such, the only thing I could possibly guess is that whoever had the rex before you had seriously wrecked it and fucked something up, and it was repaired and lined up with your d series, but even still it should fit you b16 with the mounts so just ignore all that shit above lol. Definately just get it checked at a shop first becasue that's the worst feeling, of buying something that you think you need and you end up not needing, especially something expensive like motor mounts. __________________ http://davesstainedglass.webs.com/

08-19-2007, 04:17 PM	#961
daveholiday Sonnova Bitch! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 1,662 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 GSX-R 600, 2003 Santa Fe GLS Rep Power: 44	that actually brings up a good point that I didn't think of either, I had bought a set of fat fives and all the sudden when I got up around 30 or so my car started shaking bad and when i would brake it was even worse, I thought it just being because they were bigger because rex's come with 14's, these were 15's. Well I have 17's on now and its all fine, and found out that the fatties weren't balanced for shit. so yeah, try that too, that could definately be your problem. __________________ http://davesstainedglass.webs.com/

08-19-2007, 05:12 PM	#962
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Well it really feels like the axles are 'jumping'. We put in the rear mount bolt(PITA) and it's still doing it.(it was "in", but I couldn't find the threads, but it's all good now) I honestly think it's got to do with the Full Race TBar affecting the Toe of the wheels. I just need to start measuring. If I can get it close to straight (at least enough to get me to the allignment shop) then I'll be happy. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

08-19-2007, 08:03 PM	#963
daveholiday Sonnova Bitch! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 1,662 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 GSX-R 600, 2003 Santa Fe GLS Rep Power: 44	I've never heard of jumping axles.. If you get the tbar and stuff adjusted, do you know if the alignment shop will further adjust it to get it more aligned? __________________ http://davesstainedglass.webs.com/

08-19-2007, 10:49 PM	#964
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	No, I can't say for sure what they'll do to it, but I hope they can help me out. if I can't do it. Full-Race recommends getting your car alligned after installing it, so obviously it messes with stuff... I'll play around with it. I sure 'nuff hope thats the problem..... __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

08-19-2007, 11:02 PM	#965
daveholiday Sonnova Bitch! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 1,662 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 GSX-R 600, 2003 Santa Fe GLS Rep Power: 44	seriously, otherwise you have a problem that I have no idea what it is and even less of an idea of how to fix lol __________________ http://davesstainedglass.webs.com/

08-19-2007, 11:12 PM	#966
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	I guess I would find out exactly what they did... so I'd know for future refference. does that count for anything? __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

08-19-2007, 11:37 PM	#967
daveholiday Sonnova Bitch! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 1,662 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 GSX-R 600, 2003 Santa Fe GLS Rep Power: 44	yes because then if I decide to do your exact swap and I have a problem, then I'll ask you how you fixed it lol that probably won't happen but the more information you have on anything always seems to put you in a better position, especially in the "in case" area. __________________ http://davesstainedglass.webs.com/

08-20-2007, 07:49 AM	#968
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	So when are you gonna take it to the shop and have it checked out? And really, WHERE are you gonna take it? I would want to take it to someplace where they have adjusted stuff like your's before, ya know? Probably gonna be hard to find one so you'll have to go to some hole in the wall crap place where they will just screw you Probably no chance of getting this fixed before track day, this friday, right?

08-20-2007, 09:18 AM	#969
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	I planned on Sirmon's Allignment. Thats where we take all of our other cars, but I don't know if they Cater to imports very well. I'd probably just like to find them at a time when I can STAY there and watch what they do. I sure hope I can be ready for Friday! I'll try man. If nothing else I'd like to go and watch you run! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

08-20-2007, 10:12 AM	#970
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	Nope.. No running for me.. OR ANYBODY. Damnit, they canceled it AGAIN. Next test N tune is on the 14th of sept. SO, we both have some time to get running right Last edited by mac_24_seven; 08-22-2007 at 10:11 AM.

08-21-2007, 10:04 AM	#972
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	Thats how my moon cuts turned out Aside from the paint looking like crap, it turned out great! Ya need to get ahold of a spare VC Andrew, so I can do your's. I'll go in half so I can use it while I re-paint mine.

08-22-2007, 07:50 AM	#975
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	I posted in the thread. Sweet deal Gee. thx __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

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