humblegumbo

Okay, check that off, then.

Hmmm, check & check...

That's what I thought, so another check.

Which leaves me w/ hope that it is in fact a camber issue. Any idea if 2mm would make this kind of difference? The only other possibility left, if it is the camber, is that something else bent or shifted causing the change. I highly doubt that the knuckle bent, and I already replaced the upper arm....so what's left? The lower arm? That's cast steel like the knuckle, can't imagine that's bent either....
GRRRR!!!

Maybe there's a nail in my tire too and that's the source of all this!

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I never doubted that he had his lugs loose, mine were on with an impact but they were just off balance or something I guess, I don't know. I don't even know if I was throwing that as a possibility becasue he had them before the swap, just my similar story lol.

ok, we know that when you let off the gas, it doesn't go as crazy, what about when you brake? does it do it more? you probably checked this already, but in case you didn't, is rotor warpage a possibility? my aunts civic drove fine and then one day it started shaking and shaking when she'd brake too, and I was reading through her haynes manual and it said warped rotors is a possibility, and sure enough, her driverside rotor was warped, donno how, but we got a new one and everything was peachy.

and as far as the 2mm, I could see it going both ways, I don't have much experience with camber kits so I don't know, but I could see it throwing it off bad, or not doing anything,,

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humblegumbo

Makes absolutely no difference. For me, anyway. The only time I feel this is specifically when the front suspension is compressed (cornering, or bump in road) & I'm putting power to the front wheels (wheel, since it's not LS) at the same time.

Say you're taking off from a left turn light and you gas it. Shudders like Michael J Fox on a coin operated bed w/ a jackhammer up his ass. Or, say, I'm doing a buck ten on the freeway and hit a pothole. Kinda' spooky to say the least.

Me neither. This no name deal was on the car when I got it. And, honestly, I didn't know the difference between a joint and a tie rod until a few weeks ago when I started rebuilding my front end on a daily basis.

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Your's is a problem then, that i've never heard of, and I guess I really don't understand why it only does it on turns. Did that 2mm help at all?

My car freaks out when I hit potholes, but so do I because it just sounds like the pothole just destroyed everything.



And see, there's the other thing, the whole no-name deal vs name brand stuff, like would maybe it help if you bought a name brand camber kit? I actually didn't know the difference between either of them untill I got my alignment done and they said one of my tie rods was bad, and when I looked after it was done, it was all fresh and new so now I know. But I honestly don't know much about suspension, and it sounds like you're running out of possibilities all too fast, and in the process not finding any answers.

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humblegumbo

By jove, I think I've done it!

I took her out for a quick spin around the block. Well, not that quick...and no real spinning...but she does seem to behave much better now. I have absolutely no idea what the working concept is here behind the "tire isolation" business. But I know results.
I'm sure that if I had it no-shit properly aligned, it'd be perfect.

Apparently 2mm does make all the difference. Huh. Learned something new today.

So, Andrew, I hope you check this thread before you spend money on something else that won't help. It's probably your camber too.

There's nothing more satisfying than a mechanical problem solved, and nothing more bothersome than an unsolved problem. Well, at least for me. Now, where the heck did those gas ninjas go?

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well, and I guess now I'll know for future advice or if this ever happens to me what stuff to look for, since I have almost half a clue about it all now

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Andrew

VERY interesting...

Where did you buy those bushings? For what vehicle?
Is it a press-in thing, or did it just pop in?

Heres what happens to me:
1. In a straight line, I'll get up to about 25mph and it starts to lightly vibrate(as long as I'm still on the throttle. If I put no "load" on the engine - the point before power and decel - it doesn't do anything, unless I do #3.
2. If I gun it, and run through the top of 3rd gear, it's fine, doesnt shake at all.
3. If I'm driving down the road, say 40mph, and turn the wheel left, the car responds exactly like it should- nice and smooth transitions. If I turn to the right(even just a little bit, just enough to not be straight lol), it starts to vibrate really bad.
BUT. The thing is- I KNOW it's got to do with the axles, because the frequency of the vibration increases with the speed I'm traveling at... In turn- the increased speed of the axles.

yesterday I discovered something pretty interesting, too. Just driving real slow around the yard trying to figure this crap out... I was in reverse, the wheel was turned all the way to the right(the "bad" side...) and eased back a few feet. As I did it, it started jerking at the wheel as the axles turned slowly, like the U joints are binding up temporarily.It's like when you have a swivel ratchet attachment, and you turn it to one side as far as it can, and you turn the ratchet- the joint binds then continues to rotate after moving a little bit.

Hope that helps in identifying this issue. I honestly don't think it's got to do with the camber. I don't think I'd feel it so much through the axles as I do if it was camber. PLUS it wouldn't happen when I'm driving 5 mph down my driveway and turn right...

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Andrew, have you called dad and explained the problem to him?
Dunno if he'll know anything, but it never hurts to ask somebody with experience.

Also, if you can replicate this driving in reverse at a slow speed, get Forest out there and have him looking while you drive backwards... Maybe he can see something?

And if you're 100% sure it has something to do w/the axle... Return it and get another.

It may be as simple as you got a bad axle (even though it's new). Mishaps in manf. happen all the time. Dude who assembled it might have smoked a lil too much crack :P

Andrew

I might give him a call today.
I'm going to do some more research and make sure I've got the right axle. I'm using 93 LS w/ the ABS ring(I asked for NON abs but it came w/ it anyway. it's not hitting anything, So I didn't bother knocking it off).
I wonder if I should try a 92 w/o ABS and see if theres any difference?

I'm getting SO tired of pulling these axles out.. but at the same time I'm getting really good at it

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wheel bearing??

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Would that cause excessive vibration? idk?

I've been pricing all this stuff out(turbo stuff) and heres what I got so far(after tax):
~$130 cast log mani
$65 TBO335 T3
$90 rebuild kit (if I need it. I'll check for leaks and shaft play Sunday.)
$85 oil feed/return from Stealthmodeperformance.com
$15 oil restrictor (.065")
$20 DSM BOV.
So thats about $400 so far, and I might not need the rebuild kit(right now).
All I need is charge pipes, down pipe and some time....

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Wheel bearing.... sounds like driver side, but you need to lift the front off the ground and try to wiggle the tire. then replace everything that has slack in it.

Andrew

Sounds easy enough.
I'll try it when I get home.

And you say the left one(drivers side)... I guess that would make sense, when I jerk the car left, all the weight transfers to the passenger side tires. when I go right, all the weight goes to the drivers side...

hmmmmm
Maybe I'll be doing my EX knuckle/DA brake swap sooner than I thought

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I'm out of ideas, and you guys are getting into stuff that I don't know so much about, so I'll be just taking in information and probably asking blind questions when I get to them

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eg6sir

i'm almost betting its the wheel bearing if you've checked everything else

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mac_24_seven

But it would make a nasty noise if it was the bearing.. and they just don't SUDDENLY go out.. It's a gradual thing unless you damaged it somehow. And for it to be so bad the wheel was abotu to fall off, you'd hear metal to metal scraping... Not saying I'm a car guru, but I didn't hear anything like that and I've heard bad wheel bearings before and I was listening for weird sounds.

Even then, it wouldn't cause the steering wheel to jerk.

You can check it Andrew, but I don't think thats it at all. I'm still going w/axles.

And very sweet on the turbo kit price...Dudes on TI should have some turbo piping laying around... I'd check, but I was banned again :P Second time in 2 weeks.. Don't even know what I did!

daveholiday

way to be :P

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91_civic_si

Does it make it when you turn? Does it sound like someone is beating on your floorboard with a sledgehammer?

daveholiday

you don't have to read that far up to know when it happens, I actually think he's answered if a few times, probably at least once on this page

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Matts96HB

That sucks about the grinding you have going on, I had this with my D16 but figured out something really funny. Bolt in the caliper had vibrated loose and the caliper was rubbing against my steelies. Haha. Fixed that. Anyway, good luck with fixing the problem, sounds to me like you're down to the wheel bearing?

Oh, and the turbo kit.. sounds nice that will haul some major ass
love this thread.

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I didn't get a chance to jack the car up at all yesterday...

Thanks man. It's pretty fast now... I just don't wanna drive it :S
Can't wait to get turbo stuff together. I'm buying my turbo tomorrow or Sunday.

I'm going to call my buddy down that owns a honda shop down the road and see if I can get my car on the lift and let him take a look at it.

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you know I have read the whole thing. my swap made a noise like that and it turned out to be the diff. some people are just trying to help out.

Andrew

I appreciate your input 91 civic si.

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We all appreciate the advice, if I come off like an ass, sorry, I get frustrated real quick with shit sometimes and people asking questions that have been answered a couple times already is one of them. So I apologize if I sounded rude.

Andrew, any luck?

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B16RacerN2NR

There's way too much to read so i'll just give you some input on what the shaking could be...

When that was happening to me, it turned out to be the intermediate shaft. The intermediate shaft had some 'play' in it for some weird reason. Take yours off and try shaking the female end and see if it feels like it's a little loose from the actual shaft itself. If it shakes even a little bit, that's your culprit. It's not supposed to have any play at all. I threw on a new intermediate shaft and viola... no more shake, shake, shake...

As for the cable tranny casings go, only the 90-91 casings are the same. The 92-93 cable casings are more related to the hydro casings.

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