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mac_24_seven · 09-17-2007, 01:53 PM

Got some of the best welders in the county at the shop mang.. I can get anything you need welded up.

Also, you need to get that tranny down here from the Camino and also.. get down here so we can swap the engine out of spongebob into the 240!!!

Andrew · 09-18-2007, 07:55 AM

What about this weekend, Terrance?
I've been itchin to work on the 240 man. seriously!
I'll ask Joe off for Saturday. If I can, I'll come down Friday after work and we can do the swaps Saturday.

I'll need to weld a 3" downpipe, but I might ask Tracy to help me out with that, that way we don't have to worry about them slackin on the job and whutnot. I can cut it and mark it how I want it, and just take the piping down to him and let him weld it.

mac_24_seven · 09-18-2007, 09:11 AM

You tell me....

If you want to do it this saturday, and your sure you can get off work, I"ll tell dad and we can get things goin

Andrew · 09-18-2007, 10:40 AM

I disassembled the turbo a little bit in class today:
(sorry, didn't bring my camera, so heres some crappy camera-phone pics)

Diagnoses:
It was siezed, but I broke it loose no problem. I'm positive the bearings are shot. it will not spin by hand, but it's not that hard with a socket.
One of the 5 bolts on the DP broke at the head, so now I've got to extract 1 bolt.
The 6 bolts holding the turbine side are siezed(surprise surprise), so I stopped trying- I didn't want to break any more than I had to. I'm going to heat them up with a pencil torch and plenty of PB Blaster and see if I can get them loose later on.

daveholiday · 09-18-2007, 01:10 PM

breaking bolts = the start of my bad day, and the start of me throwing shit

EF9_Hatch · 09-18-2007, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveholiday

breaking bolts = the start of my bad day, and the start of me throwing shit

Dont hit anyone lol....thats sucks though man

mac_24_seven · 09-18-2007, 04:08 PM

I know good news that you guys don't.............. (Talking to Andrew now).

get_nick · 09-18-2007, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac_24_seven

I know good news that you guys don't.............. (Talking to Andrew now).

good news eh? if it doesn't affect me, it's not really news. haha

EF9_Hatch · 09-18-2007, 04:13 PM

did he get the turbo on? and installed and running right?
If not....its not good news

Andrew · 09-18-2007, 04:18 PM

ABS RINGS

ABS rings were what was causing the vibration. I ripped them suckas off with a grinder and took it to 8k numerous times...

I'm SO happy....

Now I've got to change my passenger side axle seal.

And bro... "do I have the turbo on and running?!" ?!?!?
Did you notice that I tore the turbo apart today??

EF9_Hatch · 09-18-2007, 04:20 PM

well he said he had good news lol...nothing else how was i supposed to know? you could of got one given to you or something lol...ive been at work for 8 hours already and i have 6 left leave me alone im tired haha

donny_ptrsn · 09-18-2007, 04:38 PM

man this is a great thread i'm putting this in my favorites section.

i'll be following this.

good luck/ go fast!

humblegumbo · 09-18-2007, 05:49 PM

I just got back in town last night & catching up on the thread.
Where did you source that turbo? I remember a few pages back that it was some junkyard gold, but do you know what vehicle?

Since we've moved on to forced induction, did you get the shaking worked out? If so, I guess I missed it. I seem to remember you saying that a lot of the suspension components were shot, but was it this vehicle or a previous? Seriously, if tie-rods & everything else is shot, how can you stand to drive the thing? Maybe I'm just anal....

The whole camber issue w/ my baby got me through the road trip fine, but didn't totally resolve the shaking when accelerating & turning. So, not sure if the camber needs more fine tuning or if I should look elsewhere. Oh well.

Good luck w/ the turbo.

Andrew · 09-18-2007, 07:01 PM

*scroll up a few posts*

I fixed the majority of it. It doesnt vibrate unless I turn hard RIGHT.
*shrug*
IDK what it could be, but I'm SUPER happy I fixed the "big" problem.

Oh, and it's off of a '87 Chrysler New Yorker.

daveholiday · 09-18-2007, 09:36 PM

andrew too bad you already re-mentioned that you just took the turbo apart yesterday, because I was about to rip someone a new asshole ha. All you have though is the turbo, like no mani or anything? I remember you saying something about you getting one off some guy but I didn't know if you did indeed get one

Andrew · 09-18-2007, 10:03 PM

Well yeah, his name is FEDDC on H-T and he does great work.

I'm still talking with him on a daily basis, and yes, he's going to build my manifold for me(log), but we are just waiting to see what happens with this turbo. Since it's a Chrysler one, the flange isn't a standard T3 flange. 3 bolts are standard but theres one odd-ball. So we're just holding off on the construction of it to see if I'm even going to use this thing! I might just save it for a SOHC motor instead of using it on my B.

Keep in mind... this tiny turbo will spool almost immediately(like 2-2.5K) and will die out REAL quick- before this B16 starts making any power...

I'm starting to think about a Super 60.... or around that size...

humblegumbo · 09-18-2007, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

I fixed the majority of it. It doesnt vibrate unless I turn hard RIGHT.

Huh, I've rescanned the posts & just don't see it. Now that I've adusted the camber, I only get the shaking in a hard left. FYI.

Also, LMFAO about this:

If the turbo really spools up that quick, it might not even be worth much on a SOHC. Sorry to say, but junkyard gold maybe turned into a mass of inter grown, striated pyrite crystals....

Andrew · 09-18-2007, 11:02 PM

Well, it's just the size of it.... it's just a little too small for what I want it for. it'd be perfect for a grocery getter B16

donny_ptrsn · 09-19-2007, 02:22 PM

dude whatever you do you are going to have a fast dd.

and the fact that its a turbo for 20 something dollars is gold those things are like 120 now brand new. for 7 psi

klyph · 09-19-2007, 03:13 PM

You don't want that wierd Chrysler-flanged turbo, you'll have to build a manifold with a flange that no one uses. Plus it will need a complete rebuild which will be more than it's worth. Sell that shit and go back to the junkyard, there's gotta be something better than that.

What are you doin with the old D?

mac_24_seven · 09-19-2007, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klyph

You don't want that wierd Chrysler-flanged turbo, you'll have to build a manifold with a flange that no one uses. Plus it will need a complete rebuild which will be more than it's worth. Sell that shit and go back to the junkyard, there's gotta be something better than that.

There's all sorts of stuff out there.. Lots of Volvo's and whatnot.

I agree though, if you think it's too small Andrew, then get a bigger one.

That works with other things aside from turbo's too

humblegumbo · 09-19-2007, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac_24_seven

That works with other things aside from turbo's too

Uhhh....

Andrew · 09-19-2007, 10:02 PM

haha....

I think I'm gonna keep shopping around for something else. I wanna keep it simple and internally WG'ed if I can... so I'll do some more research and look out there at the junkyard and see whats up

I can actually return it, too

daveholiday · 09-19-2007, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

haha....

I think I'm gonna keep shopping around for something else. I wanna keep it simple and internally WG'ed if I can... so I'll do some more research and look out there at the junkyard and see whats up

I can actually return it, too

wish I lived near there, our similar "pic-a-part" has no returns

Andrew · 09-20-2007, 07:42 AM

Yeah... so my cell phone died yesterday and I had to buy a new one(like $180) so I'm kinda on hold here for a bit.

when I get home I might assemble the turbo and get it ready to take back out there.
I was having a big problem getting the common shaft and turbine side off, so I would have to take it to a shop and get it pressed out, since our press here at school is kinda chanky/wobbly and we didn't wanna bend the shaft...

I think it's WAYY more trouble than it's worth.
I'll take it back today this weekend. probably Sunday.

09-18-2007, 07:55 AM	#1127
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	What about this weekend, Terrance? I've been itchin to work on the 240 man. seriously! I'll ask Joe off for Saturday. If I can, I'll come down Friday after work and we can do the swaps Saturday. I'll need to weld a 3" downpipe, but I might ask Tracy to help me out with that, that way we don't have to worry about them slackin on the job and whutnot. I can cut it and mark it how I want it, and just take the piping down to him and let him weld it. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-18-2007, 10:40 AM	#1129
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	I disassembled the turbo a little bit in class today: (sorry, didn't bring my camera, so heres some crappy camera-phone pics) Diagnoses: It was siezed, but I broke it loose no problem. I'm positive the bearings are shot. it will not spin by hand, but it's not that hard with a socket. One of the 5 bolts on the DP broke at the head, so now I've got to extract 1 bolt. The 6 bolts holding the turbine side are siezed(surprise surprise), so I stopped trying- I didn't want to break any more than I had to. I'm going to heat them up with a pencil torch and plenty of PB Blaster and see if I can get them loose later on. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters. Last edited by Andrew; 09-18-2007 at 10:42 AM.

09-18-2007, 01:10 PM	#1130
daveholiday Sonnova Bitch! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 1,662 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 GSX-R 600, 2003 Santa Fe GLS Rep Power: 44	breaking bolts = the start of my bad day, and the start of me throwing shit __________________ http://davesstainedglass.webs.com/

09-18-2007, 04:13 PM	#1134
EF9_Hatch Yeah Join Date: May 2007 Location: Coraopolis, PA Age: 22 Posts: 968 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 57	did he get the turbo on? and installed and running right? If not....its not good news __________________ "It's not what you drive, but how you drive it." XBL Gamertag= W0BBnIT <---- 0 is a Zero

09-18-2007, 04:18 PM	#1135
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	ABS RINGS ABS rings were what was causing the vibration. I ripped them suckas off with a grinder and took it to 8k numerous times... I'm SO happy.... Now I've got to change my passenger side axle seal. And bro... "do I have the turbo on and running?!" ?!?!? Did you notice that I tore the turbo apart today?? __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.


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09-17-2007, 01:53 PM	#1126
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	Got some of the best welders in the county at the shop mang.. I can get anything you need welded up. Also, you need to get that tranny down here from the Camino and also.. get down here so we can swap the engine out of spongebob into the 240!!!

09-18-2007, 09:11 AM	#1128
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	You tell me.... If you want to do it this saturday, and your sure you can get off work, I"ll tell dad and we can get things goin

09-18-2007, 04:08 PM	#1132
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	I know good news that you guys don't.............. (Talking to Andrew now).

09-18-2007, 04:20 PM	#1136
EF9_Hatch Yeah Join Date: May 2007 Location: Coraopolis, PA Age: 22 Posts: 968 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 57	well he said he had good news lol...nothing else how was i supposed to know? you could of got one given to you or something lol...ive been at work for 8 hours already and i have 6 left leave me alone im tired haha __________________ "It's not what you drive, but how you drive it." XBL Gamertag= W0BBnIT <---- 0 is a Zero

09-18-2007, 04:38 PM	#1137
donny_ptrsn Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 56 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: GT avalanche 2.0 (my MTB) Rep Power: 6	man this is a great thread i'm putting this in my favorites section. i'll be following this. good luck/ go fast!

09-18-2007, 07:01 PM	#1139
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	scroll up a few posts I fixed the majority of it. It doesnt vibrate unless I turn hard RIGHT. shrug IDK what it could be, but I'm SUPER happy I fixed the "big" problem. Oh, and it's off of a '87 Chrysler New Yorker. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters. Last edited by Andrew; 09-18-2007 at 07:05 PM.

09-18-2007, 09:36 PM	#1140
daveholiday Sonnova Bitch! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 1,662 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 GSX-R 600, 2003 Santa Fe GLS Rep Power: 44	andrew too bad you already re-mentioned that you just took the turbo apart yesterday, because I was about to rip someone a new asshole ha. All you have though is the turbo, like no mani or anything? I remember you saying something about you getting one off some guy but I didn't know if you did indeed get one __________________ http://davesstainedglass.webs.com/

09-18-2007, 10:03 PM	#1141
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Well yeah, his name is FEDDC on H-T and he does great work. I'm still talking with him on a daily basis, and yes, he's going to build my manifold for me(log), but we are just waiting to see what happens with this turbo. Since it's a Chrysler one, the flange isn't a standard T3 flange. 3 bolts are standard but theres one odd-ball. So we're just holding off on the construction of it to see if I'm even going to use this thing! I might just save it for a SOHC motor instead of using it on my B. Keep in mind... this tiny turbo will spool almost immediately(like 2-2.5K) and will die out REAL quick- before this B16 starts making any power... I'm starting to think about a Super 60.... or around that size... __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-18-2007, 11:02 PM	#1143
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Well, it's just the size of it.... it's just a little too small for what I want it for. it'd be perfect for a grocery getter B16 __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-19-2007, 02:22 PM	#1144
donny_ptrsn Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 56 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: GT avalanche 2.0 (my MTB) Rep Power: 6	dude whatever you do you are going to have a fast dd. and the fact that its a turbo for 20 something dollars is gold those things are like 120 now brand new. for 7 psi

09-19-2007, 03:13 PM	#1145
klyph Dismember Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole, AK Age: 25 Posts: 4,224 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Whatever i can get behind the wheel of Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 263	You don't want that wierd Chrysler-flanged turbo, you'll have to build a manifold with a flange that no one uses. Plus it will need a complete rebuild which will be more than it's worth. Sell that shit and go back to the junkyard, there's gotta be something better than that. What are you doin with the old D? __________________ Go to work, Act normal, Believe the News, Save for your old age, Obey the Law Repeat after Me: I am Free

09-19-2007, 10:02 PM	#1148
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	haha.... I think I'm gonna keep shopping around for something else. I wanna keep it simple and internally WG'ed if I can... so I'll do some more research and look out there at the junkyard and see whats up I can actually return it, too __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-20-2007, 07:42 AM	#1150
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Yeah... so my cell phone died yesterday and I had to buy a new one(like $180) so I'm kinda on hold here for a bit. when I get home I might assemble the turbo and get it ready to take back out there. I was having a big problem getting the common shaft and turbine side off, so I would have to take it to a shop and get it pressed out, since our press here at school is kinda chanky/wobbly and we didn't wanna bend the shaft... I think it's WAYY more trouble than it's worth. I'll take it back today this weekend. probably Sunday. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

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