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Andrew · 08-17-2008, 04:11 PM

Update-

Got the bumper mounted-

Threw some fittings on there. I should just leave them like so:

See what I mean about doing the "visible" side last? this JB is so much cleaner.

o2 sensor. Anyone think this needs to be post-turbo for any reason? theres one right next to it on my Downpipe, so its a piece of cake to change.

awptickes · 08-17-2008, 04:49 PM

Lookin' good.

I fixed my brakes today. And helped out in a Horse Jumping tournament. I'm dead tired.

EF9_Hatch · 08-17-2008, 04:50 PM

Looking good man...Now get a vid of it running!

Andrew · 08-17-2008, 10:19 PM

^ X your fingers for tommorrow! My radiator gets in tommorrow, but I might just have to jump the gun and do it first thing in the morning before class (I go it from 12-3 this quarter! last class ftw)

I'm all finished up except for the radiator and tuning!
I welded the oil pan really well and then JBWelded it to seal it all up. Shouldn't have any problems

Moved the vacuum manifold to a more "neutral" location.

Terrance gave me a GSR cluster:

Where is this light coming from?

The source to my Honda's power:

Tommorrow should be startup day!

First off I'm going to need and Retard my cam-gear 3*.
Heres my decision process.
I have 10.5:1 Pistons.
Head is milled .xxx", or .5:1 comp worth.
if .1:1 is changed every .012", that means I'll have to Advance 4* to cover what my head was milled.
but throw my .074" gasket into the mix, (7* retard for that size)
The difference is 3* retarded.

Hopefully someone can understand at least 1 word of that.

haao13 · 08-17-2008, 11:05 PM

love the thread bro. im actually running the same set up on my z6 so i cant wait to see that thing run!

wikedeye · 08-17-2008, 11:33 PM

Does the flex pipe hold pressure or will you find out tomorrow? Congrats on the last class.

mac_24_seven · 08-18-2008, 07:20 AM

I think we worked on it abotu 6-7 hours Friday night??? Till like 1:15 in the morning? Still havn't recovered.

Dude, you better call me when before you crank it!!!! I've gotta at least hear it the first time it's fired up w/boost!

awptickes · 08-18-2008, 07:31 AM

Boost Compression Ratio Calculator

Remember to take a look at that. You don't want to blow it up on the first crank. (Or shortly after you crank it, because you couldn't help but rev it before tuning it.)

mac_24_seven · 08-18-2008, 07:46 AM

Max altitude in Tally is 200 feet above sea level...Compression ratio would be like 17.6:1

Whoa.

And Andrew, I freaking forgot the oil thing in the Xb. Sketch out the lil flange you need and I'll get some spacers made for ya that won't be ugly and non-flat. I'm also gonna get you a couple of pieces of Aluminum, 1/8, 3/16 and 1/4 so you can have it if you need it.

Andrew · 08-18-2008, 08:50 AM

Effective Compression ratio is always going to be higher than Static. A 9:1 comp engine pushing 10 psi is at 15:1 effective.
It doesnt mean you can't run boost just because it's high, you just need to have a rock solid tune.

Lotus is coming out with a turbo engine for one of their new cars w/ 11.5:1 compression boosting 5-6 psi. imagine what the Effective compression ratio is for that! not to mention it's going to be in europe, with mucho hills and higher altitude in general.

Quote:

Originally Posted by haao13

love the thread bro. im actually running the same set up on my z6 so i cant wait to see that thing run!

What kind of power are you making?

Quote:

Originally Posted by wikedeye

Does the flex pipe hold pressure or will you find out tomorrow? Congrats on the last class.

You mean does it leak? If I had to guess, it's going to leak like a sieve at the mating point where it meets my exhaust.

If your talking about my charge piping? idk.

wikedeye · 08-18-2008, 10:17 AM

Compression is affected by altitude? Is there an article that you know of that will teach me a little about that?

awptickes · 08-18-2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

Effective Compression ratio is always going to be higher than Static. A 9:1 comp engine pushing 10 psi is at 15:1 effective.
It doesnt mean you can't run boost just because it's high, you just need to have a rock solid tune.

Lotus is coming out with a turbo engine for one of their new cars w/ 11.5:1 compression boosting 5-6 psi. imagine what the Effective compression ratio is for that! not to mention it's going to be in europe, with mucho hills and higher altitude in general.

The altitude wasn't what I was talking about. I was pointing out that you're going to be running pretty high effective compression, so your tune needs to be really good.

I'm in the same boat, just my static compression ratio is 9.8:1.

mac_24_seven · 08-18-2008, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by awptickes

The altitude wasn't what I was talking about. I was pointing out that you're going to be running pretty high effective compression, so your tune needs to be really good.

We have a good tuner, so I don't think that will be a problem. max will double check to make sure Andrew has everything set up right so when he goes out there, Andrew will be ready to rock.

Andrew · 08-18-2008, 11:25 AM

Yep.

My radiator just showed up. I'm going to have a "fun" time installing this thing.
I really just need to get a freaking traction bar. This stock Crossmember is killing me.

mac_24_seven · 08-18-2008, 11:36 AM

That crossmember does blow, especially now that it's all hacked up and whatnot.

haao13 · 08-18-2008, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

What kind of power are you making?

idk yet. im waiting on my downpipe and ecu. im hoping for around 180. looks like you might be boosting before me so keep us posted on your progress and numbers

mac_24_seven · 08-19-2008, 04:19 PM

Dude, I made (3) 3/16 spacers for you today. They match nearly perfect to the oil return. MUCH better than what you have now, plus they are flat :P I'll give em to Meglet so you can have em tomorrow

Andrew · 08-19-2008, 04:34 PM

Great! Thanks man!

I'm getting ready to drop $500... $220 shipped o the WideBand (AEM UEGO) and $284 shipped on the ETD Traction bar. Ugh.

It's necessary, but dang. I hate doing this. especially when I want to buy a new car soon.. geez.

awptickes · 08-19-2008, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

Great! Thanks man!

I'm getting ready to drop $500... $220 shipped o the WideBand (AEM UEGO) and $284 shipped on the ETD Traction bar. Ugh.

It's necessary, but dang. I hate doing this. especially when I want to buy a new car soon.. geez.

Try searching the FS forum first on the wideband. There's a few people selling widebands there. That'll save a few bucks.

awptickes · 08-19-2008, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac_24_seven

Dude, I made (3) 3/16 spacers for you today. They match nearly perfect to the oil return. MUCH better than what you have now, plus they are flat :P I'll give em to Meglet so you can have em tomorrow

What are the 3/16 spacers on the oil return do?

mac_24_seven · 08-19-2008, 04:53 PM

His oil return was a lil short and it kinked the line if he mated the flange to the turbo, she he needed a couple of spacers to get rid of the kink.

ANd did you talk to Max about the AEM? Is that what he suggested?

Korax · 08-19-2008, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac_24_seven

His oil return was a lil short and it kinked the line if he mated the flange to the turbo, she he needed a couple of spacers to get rid of the kink.

ANd did you talk to Max about the AEM? Is that what he suggested?

Learn something new about Andrew everyday.

Andrew · 08-19-2008, 05:14 PM

^ hahahaha! "FIFTH!"

I'll look around for a used one.

Dustin (Busted Ej1) recommended it to me. I'll try and remember to to call Max but I can never seem to be able to. I always get distracted by the time he's done with work at 7! =/

I found a good deal on Craigslist for a 'new' D16Z6 head for $200. Should I jump on it? Does anyone on here want the link?

Quote:

Originally Posted by seller

the actual head casting is new , i reused rocker arms but had them all checked out before i reused them , everything is in good shape , has the stock cam and cam gear included ,

mac_24_seven · 08-19-2008, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

^
I found a good deal on Craigslist for a 'new' D16Z6 head for $200. Should I jump on it?

Negative. If you're jumpin on anything, jump on that B16 for $500.00. Offer him $400.00 for it and sell the tranny for $300.00. Then turbo THAT instead of the D16 <laughs>

Max said AEM was good.. but was gonna get back with me. Just call em and leave a message!

Andrew · 08-19-2008, 07:07 PM

Working on it. He didn't have any contact info so I can't get in contact with him. I sent a "note" to Craigslist about it. We'll see. I'd LOVE to do a stock B16 turbo. Maybe it will work out.

I've got some stuff to trade him, so I'll see what he says when he gets back to me.

Edit: Great. Now I'm looking at this:

Quote:

2004 Accord K24A4 2.4 litre with 29k miles and a 2002 RSX type S 6-speed tranny with 42k miles. 1700.00 OBO

08-17-2008, 04:11 PM	#2176
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Update- Got the bumper mounted- Threw some fittings on there. I should just leave them like so: See what I mean about doing the "visible" side last? this JB is so much cleaner. o2 sensor. Anyone think this needs to be post-turbo for any reason? theres one right next to it on my Downpipe, so its a piece of cake to change. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

08-17-2008, 04:49 PM	#2177
awptickes Reverend Awptickes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bel Air, MD Age: 21 Posts: 3,949 iTrader: 6 / 100% Ride: 1999 Civic EJ9, 2009 Fit GE8, 2006 Suzuki SV650s Rep Power: 184	Lookin' good. I fixed my brakes today. And helped out in a Horse Jumping tournament. I'm dead tired. __________________ ☻/ DIY/Howto HID Projector retrofit /▌ / \

08-17-2008, 04:50 PM	#2178
EF9_Hatch Yeah Join Date: May 2007 Location: Coraopolis, PA Age: 22 Posts: 968 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 57	Looking good man...Now get a vid of it running! __________________ "It's not what you drive, but how you drive it." XBL Gamertag= W0BBnIT <---- 0 is a Zero

08-17-2008, 10:19 PM	#2179
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	^ X your fingers for tommorrow! My radiator gets in tommorrow, but I might just have to jump the gun and do it first thing in the morning before class (I go it from 12-3 this quarter! last class ftw) I'm all finished up except for the radiator and tuning! I welded the oil pan really well and then JBWelded it to seal it all up. Shouldn't have any problems Moved the vacuum manifold to a more "neutral" location. Terrance gave me a GSR cluster: Where is this light coming from? The source to my Honda's power: Tommorrow should be startup day! First off I'm going to need and Retard my cam-gear 3. Heres my decision process. I have 10.5:1 Pistons. Head is milled .xxx", or .5:1 comp worth. if .1:1 is changed every .012", that means I'll have to Advance 4 to cover what my head was milled. but throw my .074" gasket into the mix, (7* retard for that size) The difference is 3* retarded. Hopefully someone can understand at least 1 word of that. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

08-18-2008, 07:31 AM	#2183
awptickes Reverend Awptickes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bel Air, MD Age: 21 Posts: 3,949 iTrader: 6 / 100% Ride: 1999 Civic EJ9, 2009 Fit GE8, 2006 Suzuki SV650s Rep Power: 184	Boost Compression Ratio Calculator Remember to take a look at that. You don't want to blow it up on the first crank. (Or shortly after you crank it, because you couldn't help but rev it before tuning it.) __________________ ☻/ DIY/Howto HID Projector retrofit /▌ / \


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08-17-2008, 11:05 PM	#2180
haao13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: PA Posts: 430 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: boosted sir eg, suzuki gsx750f Rep Power: 11	love the thread bro. im actually running the same set up on my z6 so i cant wait to see that thing run!

08-18-2008, 07:20 AM	#2182
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	I think we worked on it abotu 6-7 hours Friday night??? Till like 1:15 in the morning? Still havn't recovered. Dude, you better call me when before you crank it!!!! I've gotta at least hear it the first time it's fired up w/boost!

08-18-2008, 07:46 AM	#2184
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	Max altitude in Tally is 200 feet above sea level...Compression ratio would be like 17.6:1 Whoa. And Andrew, I freaking forgot the oil thing in the Xb. Sketch out the lil flange you need and I'll get some spacers made for ya that won't be ugly and non-flat. I'm also gonna get you a couple of pieces of Aluminum, 1/8, 3/16 and 1/4 so you can have it if you need it.

08-18-2008, 11:25 AM	#2189
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Yep. My radiator just showed up. I'm going to have a "fun" time installing this thing. I really just need to get a freaking traction bar. This stock Crossmember is killing me. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

08-18-2008, 11:36 AM	#2190
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	That crossmember does blow, especially now that it's all hacked up and whatnot.

08-19-2008, 04:19 PM	#2192
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	Dude, I made (3) 3/16 spacers for you today. They match nearly perfect to the oil return. MUCH better than what you have now, plus they are flat :P I'll give em to Meglet so you can have em tomorrow

08-19-2008, 04:34 PM	#2193
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Great! Thanks man! I'm getting ready to drop $500... $220 shipped o the WideBand (AEM UEGO) and $284 shipped on the ETD Traction bar. Ugh. It's necessary, but dang. I hate doing this. especially when I want to buy a new car soon.. geez. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

08-19-2008, 04:53 PM	#2196
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	His oil return was a lil short and it kinked the line if he mated the flange to the turbo, she he needed a couple of spacers to get rid of the kink. ANd did you talk to Max about the AEM? Is that what he suggested?

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