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Andrew · 11-30-2006, 12:20 PM

Well, you can actually do it with a B-nut(aka sleeve), which would be a Female fitting.
If you do an AN tube fitting, it will be a male(just like the stock fitting on our cars, just AN threading!)

AN PLUMBING.COM Earls performance products Hose ends Hose,Adapter fittings for all your AN and SS line needs.
#581806

eg6sir · 11-30-2006, 12:23 PM

waiting to see this up and going..

Andrew · 11-30-2006, 04:37 PM

KMS told me they're (seriously) planning to ship out Monday.
Unfortunatly I can't throw it in the car right away though. I have to install the new water pump(they wanted to charge $100 to install their's!), attach the Alternator, dizzy, mounts, etc.

And after a while of breaking it in and driving around I'm gonna have to pull the trans off and install the new clutch.(The reason I don't install it right away is that I want to break in the motor on the racetrack, but it's not recommended to spin a brand new clutch past 4k or so... right?}

It's coming along. I've also got to get that fitting on the MC taken care of.

klyph · 11-30-2006, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

And after a while of breaking it in and driving around I'm gonna have to pull the trans off and install the new clutch.(The reason I don't install it right away is that I want to break in the motor on the racetrack, but it's not recommended to spin a brand new clutch past 4k or so... right?}.

Uhh, I've never heard of not spinning a new clutch over 4k. Is it some sort of specially sprung race clutch? I'm pretty sure that it doesnt matter how high you rev a new clutch. Why are you breaking in the motor at the racetrack?

Andrew · 11-30-2006, 06:07 PM

To properly seat the piston rings.

Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

It's an Exedy OEM replacement clutch. I didn't think it'd be that big of a deal, but my buddy mentioned something about it.
I DO know that I'll probably have to adjust it every once in a while, but idk about the whole rpm-limit thing. I was just going by what he said.

Hmm... now you've got me curious. research time I guess.

klyph · 11-30-2006, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Urban Dictionary: pwn

Ouch man, that cuts deep.
I thought you just had to keep the revs down to break rings in properly (which you can do on the street)

Andrew · 11-30-2006, 06:33 PM

Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

Sorry bro, that was the last thing I copied/pasted, so it was the thing on my 'clipboard'! haha my bad.

I'm such an idiot... my bad!

eg6sir · 11-30-2006, 07:06 PM

that just seems like it would be soo wrong... but who knows.. i'm not the mechanic

klyph · 11-30-2006, 09:15 PM

Actually the way he explains it, it makes sense. VERY interesting. I had never heard of this before.
Well, this will make my break in much more fun

Andrew · 11-30-2006, 09:37 PM

Thats what I'm thinkin!!! Instead of holding back for 500 miles... you get to dog it all the time! who knew it's actually GOOD for the motor to rev it up at first!?

Sounds VERY backwards!!!

Does anybody know about the whole clutch deal?
Can I safely rev a brand new Exedy OEM replacement clutch up to ~7k?
(won't take my motor up that high since it's un-tuned.)

vanillakilla · 11-30-2006, 09:46 PM

you can also break it in on the dyno that is what alot of people do now

Andrew · 11-30-2006, 09:52 PM

If the next dyno day at the local shop corresponds with when I plan on running it, I just might do it that way. (Thats what Formby recommended me)

formby · 11-30-2006, 10:11 PM

the clutch needs to be broken in for 500mls... do the break in and then do the clutch.

Andrew · 11-30-2006, 10:32 PM

That what I thought I'd have to do.
guess my buddy was right.
thx homie

btw, my thread is going insane with visiting #'s.
Klyph's catchin up quick with his crazy project too!!!

I just want to thank everybody for they're support!!!

klyph · 11-30-2006, 10:38 PM

Woot!

93vicb16a2 · 12-01-2006, 01:31 PM

my friend just did a swap to a b16 w/that clutch and he took it to 7200 first night no problem

yet lol

Taco15 · 12-01-2006, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

If the next dyno day at the local shop corresponds with when I plan on running it, I just might do it that way. (Thats what Formby recommended me)

i can get you on the that dyno on the low low

james wouldnt mind helping you out. even if we never have another dyno day

Andrew · 12-03-2006, 03:02 PM

That would be awsome. How much is the normal going rate?

I want to break it in on the track, but I definatly want to get it on a dyno!

93civicsir · 12-05-2006, 05:05 PM

i did a excedy stage 1 clutch and light weight flywheel on my b16, i took it up to 8000 the first night. and i havent had any problems. that was 6 months ago.

i was always told not to leave hard or ride it hard for the first 500-750 miles.

formby · 12-05-2006, 07:42 PM

once in gear you can go up in rp... its the dumping thats bad

hazzardboy95 · 12-05-2006, 08:32 PM

looks good budy, were you going to put the turbo on this motor or are you building another motor to do that to

Andrew · 12-05-2006, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hazzardboy95

looks good budy, were you going to put the turbo on this motor or are you building another motor to do that to

I'm afraid you must be confusing me with someone else. I'm not going turbo on this one.
If anything, I'm leaning towards a JRSC, but thats all just up in the air now. who knows.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Formby

once in gear you can go up in rp... its the dumping thats bad

Ok thanks. good to know!(so I guess my track times will be a little slower

)

Update 12/5:
Got the brake line taken care of. Went to Car Quest and they hooked me up.
It was my first time flaring, so I'll be suprised if it doesn't leak!

Will talk to KMS again tomorrow.
I called him Monday and he said he should be done by wensday. pshh. we'll see.

hazzardboy95 · 12-05-2006, 10:50 PM

sorry i thought when i was reading the begining of your thread you said that this was your swap and then you were thinking of building another turbo motor for it, im sorry i must have been mistaken

Andrew · 12-06-2006, 08:19 AM

93vicb16a2 · 12-14-2006, 04:42 PM

any update?

11-30-2006, 12:20 PM	#201
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Well, you can actually do it with a B-nut(aka sleeve), which would be a Female fitting. If you do an AN tube fitting, it will be a male(just like the stock fitting on our cars, just AN threading!) AN PLUMBING.COM Earls performance products Hose ends Hose,Adapter fittings for all your AN and SS line needs. #581806 __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

11-30-2006, 04:37 PM	#203
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	KMS told me they're (seriously) planning to ship out Monday. Unfortunatly I can't throw it in the car right away though. I have to install the new water pump(they wanted to charge $100 to install their's!), attach the Alternator, dizzy, mounts, etc. And after a while of breaking it in and driving around I'm gonna have to pull the trans off and install the new clutch.(The reason I don't install it right away is that I want to break in the motor on the racetrack, but it's not recommended to spin a brand new clutch past 4k or so... right?} It's coming along. I've also got to get that fitting on the MC taken care of. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

11-30-2006, 06:07 PM	#205
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	To properly seat the piston rings. Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power It's an Exedy OEM replacement clutch. I didn't think it'd be that big of a deal, but my buddy mentioned something about it. I DO know that I'll probably have to adjust it every once in a while, but idk about the whole rpm-limit thing. I was just going by what he said. Hmm... now you've got me curious. research time I guess. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters. Last edited by Andrew; 11-30-2006 at 06:33 PM.

11-30-2006, 06:33 PM	#207
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power Sorry bro, that was the last thing I copied/pasted, so it was the thing on my 'clipboard'! haha my bad. I'm such an idiot... my bad! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

11-30-2006, 09:15 PM	#209
klyph Dismember Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole, AK Age: 25 Posts: 4,224 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Whatever i can get behind the wheel of Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 263	Actually the way he explains it, it makes sense. VERY interesting. I had never heard of this before. Well, this will make my break in much more fun __________________ Go to work, Act normal, Believe the News, Save for your old age, Obey the Law Repeat after Me: I am Free


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11-30-2006, 09:37 PM	#210
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Thats what I'm thinkin!!! Instead of holding back for 500 miles... you get to dog it all the time! who knew it's actually GOOD for the motor to rev it up at first!? Sounds VERY backwards!!! Does anybody know about the whole clutch deal? Can I safely rev a brand new Exedy OEM replacement clutch up to ~7k? (won't take my motor up that high since it's un-tuned.) __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

11-30-2006, 09:46 PM	#211
vanillakilla Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Tacoma Washington Posts: 364 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 11	you can also break it in on the dyno that is what alot of people do now

11-30-2006, 09:52 PM	#212
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	If the next dyno day at the local shop corresponds with when I plan on running it, I just might do it that way. (Thats what Formby recommended me) __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

11-30-2006, 10:11 PM	#213
formby learning in progress Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 27 Posts: 5,742 iTrader: 4 / 100% Ride: 00' Montero sport, 99' lsv civic Rep Power: 93	the clutch needs to be broken in for 500mls... do the break in and then do the clutch. __________________ SOMETIMES IN LIFE WE ALL NEED CHANGE! http://pandora.com/

11-30-2006, 10:32 PM	#214
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	That what I thought I'd have to do. guess my buddy was right. thx homie btw, my thread is going insane with visiting #'s. Klyph's catchin up quick with his crazy project too!!! I just want to thank everybody for they're support!!! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters. Last edited by Andrew; 11-30-2006 at 10:39 PM.

11-30-2006, 10:38 PM	#215
klyph Dismember Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: North Pole, AK Age: 25 Posts: 4,224 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Whatever i can get behind the wheel of Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 263	Woot! __________________ Go to work, Act normal, Believe the News, Save for your old age, Obey the Law Repeat after Me: I am Free

12-01-2006, 01:31 PM	#216
93vicb16a2 WHATS CRACKIN?? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: bfe Age: 27 Posts: 412 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: anything with 4or more rims tires optional Rep Power: 13	my friend just did a swap to a b16 w/that clutch and he took it to 7200 first night no problem yet lol __________________ 91 hatch b16a2 swap 91 hatch beater 84 silverado 2004 dodge ram ya its got the HEMI in it Good Sellers: loserpunkx182, NoJokE, formby, ctechone01, kpeters0929 Good Buyers: Smoothn, igotnothin

12-03-2006, 03:02 PM	#218
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	That would be awsome. How much is the normal going rate? I want to break it in on the track, but I definatly want to get it on a dyno! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

12-05-2006, 05:05 PM	#219
93civicsir Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: kansas Age: 28 Posts: 123 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 civic EJ/SIR and 90 CRX SI in progress Rep Power: 11	i did a excedy stage 1 clutch and light weight flywheel on my b16, i took it up to 8000 the first night. and i havent had any problems. that was 6 months ago. i was always told not to leave hard or ride it hard for the first 500-750 miles.

12-05-2006, 07:42 PM	#220
formby learning in progress Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 27 Posts: 5,742 iTrader: 4 / 100% Ride: 00' Montero sport, 99' lsv civic Rep Power: 93	once in gear you can go up in rp... its the dumping thats bad __________________ SOMETIMES IN LIFE WE ALL NEED CHANGE! http://pandora.com/

12-05-2006, 08:32 PM	#221
hazzardboy95 Hon-daaaa Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pasadena, Md Posts: 671 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 TEGGY Rep Power: 13	looks good budy, were you going to put the turbo on this motor or are you building another motor to do that to

12-05-2006, 10:50 PM	#223
hazzardboy95 Hon-daaaa Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pasadena, Md Posts: 671 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 TEGGY Rep Power: 13	sorry i thought when i was reading the begining of your thread you said that this was your swap and then you were thinking of building another turbo motor for it, im sorry i must have been mistaken

12-06-2006, 08:19 AM	#224
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	NP __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

12-14-2006, 04:42 PM	#225
93vicb16a2 WHATS CRACKIN?? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: bfe Age: 27 Posts: 412 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: anything with 4or more rims tires optional Rep Power: 13	any update? __________________ 91 hatch b16a2 swap 91 hatch beater 84 silverado 2004 dodge ram ya its got the HEMI in it Good Sellers: loserpunkx182, NoJokE, formby, ctechone01, kpeters0929 Good Buyers: Smoothn, igotnothin

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