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Andrew · 09-22-2008, 01:06 PM

I'll try!

Andrew · 09-22-2008, 10:01 PM

Finished building the charge pipe! Now it needs welding!

And I'm updating the first page w/ these last 5 pages or so worth of info. Been slackin'!

daveholiday · 09-22-2008, 10:30 PM

Lookin good Andrew, Lookin good. Get those pages updated, stat!

efhondakid · 09-22-2008, 10:31 PM

Mmm them pie slices look real good.

Andrew · 09-22-2008, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daveholiday

Get those pages updated, stat!

Got it done, Sir!

Quote:

Originally Posted by efhondakid

Mmm them pie slices look real good.

Thank you maine

It'll look even better welded!

efhondakid · 09-22-2008, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

Thank you maine

It'll look even better welded!

So when are you going to start making turbo manis?

Andrew · 09-22-2008, 10:45 PM

Might make one this year! I'm going to get my feet wet with making my own 3" Downpipe. I'm about to order a flange from weiRtech for the DP and possibly (money allowing) a head flange and turbo inlet flange to start building one!

efhondakid · 09-22-2008, 10:46 PM

Heck yes!

mac_24_seven · 09-23-2008, 07:00 AM

I've been trying to figure out what kind of metal to go with for the runners.

Andrew · 09-23-2008, 08:05 AM

304 Stainless Steel
probably 1.25 - 1.5" runners.(this is what I'm unsure of)

Tight Rad. mani-bends I could only find these Sched. 10's.

304 ss Flanges from Burns
I'm going to use www.weirtech.ca 's flanges, though. His are mild steel. 3/8"

this is one of Tuner Toy's
They used Stainless Steel Schedule 40

Oh, and like I mentioned earlier, I'm also going to build my own traction bar, utilizing weirtech's DIY kit:

Example!

mac_24_seven · 09-23-2008, 09:04 AM

I think this would be good to buy for building a manifold

It looks (to me anyway) you could almost if NOT build a single runner from one of these and have a lil pipe left over.

Whatcha think?

Andrew · 09-23-2008, 10:54 AM

$60 x 4 = $240
head flange = $20
Turbo flange = $8
WG flange = 5
+ shipping guessing around $40
~$320

You can buy them for $350-400.
BUT it'll be ours! haha and you know, we could probably find better prices than that.

mac_24_seven · 09-23-2008, 11:24 AM

Yes, we can.
Look at yoru header in the pic...

Dontcha think a 4/2/1 header would be great for a turbo manifold?

**Edit again** Unless it would be too close to the block...

**Edit Again, again ** :P
Lets look at teh shorty manifold you and I talked about.
$525.00

Thats a fairly simple design, much easier than a ram horn. Now look at this...
You could get one of these for $88.00 shipped

It looks, to me anyway, that if it was planned out good, we could get the short manifold from this header. Not only would we get the tubing and header flange (obviously) but we get the nice 4-1 collector. W/a lil hacking and brain juice, I think it could be done and we might be able to get a sweet turbo manifold for alil over $100.00.We've got the welding part covered, we can brace it as we see fit, since this metal wasnt intended to hold up a turbo. Though, that may be the Achilles heel to this lil idea.

Thoughts?

Andrew · 09-23-2008, 01:49 PM

I could do an elephant trunk Topmount

But I wonder about the lag :/

mac_24_seven · 09-23-2008, 02:33 PM

Well, if you used the lil header that you have no, there would be no more lag with it than with the SLS manifold. There would probably be some lag for me if I used the 4/2/1 header and converted it to a turbo manifold.

Here, look at this....

Not only would you get a manifold, but you'd have a great downpipe as well (of course, it woudl have to be modified)

And just on case anybody wonders... I"m super uber bored at work.. I have nothing to do except scheme on making millions and taking over the world... or figure out how to make a turbo manifold for t3h cheep. I even made this from a pic I found a few mins ago...

Andrew · 09-23-2008, 09:44 PM

We'll see man.
I think that kind of setup will render the turbo too low and will present problems with the drain line.

efhondakid · 09-23-2008, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

Oh, and like I mentioned earlier, I'm also going to build my own traction bar, utilizing weirtech's DIY kit:

I was thinking of making one too after reading that guys write-up on HMT, but got cold feet when it came to making the the mounts for the tension rods. How much does that kit run?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac_24_seven

I think this would be good to buy for building a manifold

It looks (to me anyway) you could almost if NOT build a single runner from one of these and have a lil pipe left over.

Whatcha think?

Downpipe?

Andrew · 09-23-2008, 10:10 PM

I'll find the link for you tomorrow, but a website has some great deals on them. I'll be running a 1/2" setup. I'll make sure and give you all the info as I collect it!!

edit: scratch that. I remembered it it's Speedwaymotors http://www.speedwaymotors.com/m/105_...s-Sleeves.html

lol. Terrance, I oughta make one of these. This dude made it for <$10

efhondakid · 09-23-2008, 10:17 PM

Thanks mang, that its a pretty cool mani, although take note of the swiss cheesed block.

awptickes · 09-24-2008, 02:23 AM

Looks cool, but if you've already got clearance problems, adding another loop of hot pipes won't help. It also won't help keeping the compartment cool either.

Andrew · 09-24-2008, 08:03 AM

Thats a true statement!

I do not think I will be doing an elephant stack. or a topmount period- it's pointless for such a small turbo...
But I think I can utilize that old header of mine! If nothing else than for the flange and some tubing. I can add some tight 90's.

ANYWAY. enough talk about manifolds. This isn't the most important thing of my build right now. I need to focus on getting this running!

mac_24_seven · 09-24-2008, 10:40 AM

Your pipe will get welded on today.. Hopefully it'll get done today. Alsok dont forget the header in the back of the Xb.

**Edit**

Dude, look at this...
Here's the link..

Stuffs cheap man!

mac_24_seven · 09-24-2008, 04:29 PM

Here's Andrews hot side intercooler pipe!

awptickes · 09-24-2008, 04:31 PM

Cool. Now just grind it all smooth, and polish.

That thing looks intense. Turbulant too. I'd say it's exactly what you need pre-intercooler.

Andrew · 09-24-2008, 05:30 PM

wOOt!!!!

BIG Thanks to Terrance @ ezell Industries! haha
Looks SICK!!!

09-22-2008, 01:06 PM	#2326
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	I'll try! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-22-2008, 10:01 PM	#2327
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Finished building the charge pipe! Now it needs welding! And I'm updating the first page w/ these last 5 pages or so worth of info. Been slackin'! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-22-2008, 10:30 PM	#2328
daveholiday Sonnova Bitch! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 1,662 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 GSX-R 600, 2003 Santa Fe GLS Rep Power: 44	Lookin good Andrew, Lookin good. Get those pages updated, stat! __________________ http://davesstainedglass.webs.com/

09-22-2008, 10:31 PM	#2329
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 20 Posts: 5,421 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89' DX Hatch w/B16 Rep Power: 221	Mmm them pie slices look real good. __________________ ^ (dont listen) Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. There is a hidden message here. *"Motor swaps, turbo kit installs, diagnostics, minor repairs, minor fab and bodywork. Located in Akron-Canton area PM me for more details."* "In the dice game of life who gets the last roll?"

09-22-2008, 10:45 PM	#2332
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Might make one this year! I'm going to get my feet wet with making my own 3" Downpipe. I'm about to order a flange from weiRtech for the DP and possibly (money allowing) a head flange and turbo inlet flange to start building one! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.


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09-22-2008, 10:46 PM	#2333
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 20 Posts: 5,421 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89' DX Hatch w/B16 Rep Power: 221	Heck yes! __________________ ^ (dont listen) Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. There is a hidden message here. *"Motor swaps, turbo kit installs, diagnostics, minor repairs, minor fab and bodywork. Located in Akron-Canton area PM me for more details."* "In the dice game of life who gets the last roll?"

09-23-2008, 07:00 AM	#2334
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	I've been trying to figure out what kind of metal to go with for the runners.

09-23-2008, 08:05 AM	#2335
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	304 Stainless Steel probably 1.25 - 1.5" runners.(this is what I'm unsure of) Tight Rad. mani-bends I could only find these Sched. 10's. 304 ss Flanges from Burns I'm going to use www.weirtech.ca 's flanges, though. His are mild steel. 3/8" this is one of Tuner Toy's They used Stainless Steel Schedule 40 Oh, and like I mentioned earlier, I'm also going to build my own traction bar, utilizing weirtech's DIY kit: Example! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters. Last edited by Andrew; 09-23-2008 at 08:30 AM.

09-23-2008, 09:04 AM	#2336
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	I think this would be good to buy for building a manifold It looks (to me anyway) you could almost if NOT build a single runner from one of these and have a lil pipe left over. Whatcha think?

09-23-2008, 10:54 AM	#2337
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	$60 x 4 = $240 head flange = $20 Turbo flange = $8 WG flange = 5 + shipping guessing around $40 ~$320 You can buy them for $350-400. BUT it'll be ours! haha and you know, we could probably find better prices than that. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-23-2008, 11:24 AM	#2338
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	Yes, we can. Look at yoru header in the pic... Dontcha think a 4/2/1 header would be great for a turbo manifold? Edit again Unless it would be too close to the block... Edit Again, again :P Lets look at teh shorty manifold you and I talked about. $525.00 Thats a fairly simple design, much easier than a ram horn. Now look at this... You could get one of these for $88.00 shipped It looks, to me anyway, that if it was planned out good, we could get the short manifold from this header. Not only would we get the tubing and header flange (obviously) but we get the nice 4-1 collector. W/a lil hacking and brain juice, I think it could be done and we might be able to get a sweet turbo manifold for alil over $100.00.We've got the welding part covered, we can brace it as we see fit, since this metal wasnt intended to hold up a turbo. Though, that may be the Achilles heel to this lil idea. Thoughts? Last edited by mac_24_seven; 09-23-2008 at 01:53 PM.

09-23-2008, 01:49 PM	#2339
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	I could do an elephant trunk Topmount But I wonder about the lag :/ __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-23-2008, 02:33 PM	#2340
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	Well, if you used the lil header that you have no, there would be no more lag with it than with the SLS manifold. There would probably be some lag for me if I used the 4/2/1 header and converted it to a turbo manifold. Here, look at this.... Not only would you get a manifold, but you'd have a great downpipe as well (of course, it woudl have to be modified) And just on case anybody wonders... I"m super uber bored at work.. I have nothing to do except scheme on making millions and taking over the world... or figure out how to make a turbo manifold for t3h cheep. I even made this from a pic I found a few mins ago... Last edited by mac_24_seven; 09-23-2008 at 02:51 PM.

09-23-2008, 09:44 PM	#2341
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	We'll see man. I think that kind of setup will render the turbo too low and will present problems with the drain line. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-23-2008, 10:10 PM	#2343
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	I'll find the link for you tomorrow, but a website has some great deals on them. I'll be running a 1/2" setup. I'll make sure and give you all the info as I collect it!! edit: scratch that. I remembered it it's Speedwaymotors http://www.speedwaymotors.com/m/105_...s-Sleeves.html lol. Terrance, I oughta make one of these. This dude made it for <$10 __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-23-2008, 10:17 PM	#2344
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 20 Posts: 5,421 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89' DX Hatch w/B16 Rep Power: 221	Thanks mang, that its a pretty cool mani, although take note of the swiss cheesed block. __________________ ^ (dont listen) Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. There is a hidden message here. *"Motor swaps, turbo kit installs, diagnostics, minor repairs, minor fab and bodywork. Located in Akron-Canton area PM me for more details."* "In the dice game of life who gets the last roll?"

09-24-2008, 02:23 AM	#2345
awptickes Reverend Awptickes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bel Air, MD Age: 21 Posts: 3,949 iTrader: 6 / 100% Ride: 1999 Civic EJ9, 2009 Fit GE8, 2006 Suzuki SV650s Rep Power: 184	Looks cool, but if you've already got clearance problems, adding another loop of hot pipes won't help. It also won't help keeping the compartment cool either. __________________ ☻/ DIY/Howto HID Projector retrofit /▌ / \

09-24-2008, 08:03 AM	#2346
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Thats a true statement! I do not think I will be doing an elephant stack. or a topmount period- it's pointless for such a small turbo... But I think I can utilize that old header of mine! If nothing else than for the flange and some tubing. I can add some tight 90's. ANYWAY. enough talk about manifolds. This isn't the most important thing of my build right now. I need to focus on getting this running! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-24-2008, 10:40 AM	#2347
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	Your pipe will get welded on today.. Hopefully it'll get done today. Alsok dont forget the header in the back of the Xb. Edit Dude, look at this... Here's the link.. Stuffs cheap man! Last edited by mac_24_seven; 09-24-2008 at 12:45 PM.

09-24-2008, 04:29 PM	#2348
mac_24_seven I trained Trogdor to pWn Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 520 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 94 GSR Sedan Rep Power: 16	Here's Andrews hot side intercooler pipe! __________________ 1994 Acura Integra GS-R Sedan My MAIN DB8 project thread on Honda-Tech: Very detailed of EVERYTHING I've done to my car. Contact me for ITR header skid plates: $40.00 shipped!!!

09-24-2008, 04:31 PM	#2349
awptickes Reverend Awptickes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bel Air, MD Age: 21 Posts: 3,949 iTrader: 6 / 100% Ride: 1999 Civic EJ9, 2009 Fit GE8, 2006 Suzuki SV650s Rep Power: 184	Cool. Now just grind it all smooth, and polish. That thing looks intense. Turbulant too. I'd say it's exactly what you need pre-intercooler. __________________ ☻/ DIY/Howto HID Projector retrofit /▌ / \

09-24-2008, 05:30 PM	#2350
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	wOOt!!!! BIG Thanks to Terrance @ ezell Industries! haha Looks SICK!!! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

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