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Andrew · 09-11-2006, 08:54 AM

Well, since my motor is shipped off to KMS Engine Development, I figure I have about a month to get my engine bay looking sweet... So I decided to try my hand at a wire tuck. However, I'm not going all out and moving the fusebox into the cabin, I'm just hopeing to relocate it out of site, just so I don't have to go through all that hassle. (At least thats my plan as of now. we'll see how confident I feel after this easy stuff

)

On with it:
I'm gonna let the pictures do most of the talking.

And this is how it sits right now:

And thats that for now.
The plan for today is to get it washed up and start prepping for paint.(re-painting it white to clean it up.)

Updates soon!
-Andrew

Andrew · 09-13-2006, 08:13 PM

Update 9/12

Well, it's been raining so bad the past few days.
I finally got fed up and continued working. Even though I got soaked to the bone, I made a little head-way.

1. I pressure washed the engine bay. (oooooohhh.... shiney...)
2. I got the Drivers side all connected and ready to be wired/soldered.
3. Got the main cabin/engine bay harness stripped of the looming to allow my passenger-side headlight group to be re-loomed for a cleaner, easier tuck.
*Remember, I'm not pulling my fuse box into the cabin. I'm mainly tucking my head light wiring and re-locating most of the other wiring, including the Fusebox.*

No comments?

NissanNiNjA2nd · 09-13-2006, 08:34 PM

Doing an awesome job.... just watch the water goodness and I want to see it finished.

Andrew · 09-13-2006, 08:37 PM

yeah... that whole, "water/electricity = bad" thing......

It'll be all dried in when i'm done with it.
thx for the comment.

formby · 09-13-2006, 08:41 PM

its looking good...

formby · 09-13-2006, 08:41 PM

what are you getting done at kms?

Andrew · 09-13-2006, 08:58 PM

Bottom End:

-New Main Bearings
-New Rod Bearings
-Shot Peen Rods.
-Micropolish Crank
-Hone Cylinders
-Install Pistons/Rings. KMS pistons- 11:1 compression.
-Deck/Square Block
-Have entire Rotating assembly Balanced.

Top End:

-Skunk2 IM -have yet to buy.
-Stage 2 Cam.
-Stage 2 Valves, Springs/Retainers.
-Stage 2 port/polish.

TurboMirage · 09-13-2006, 09:22 PM

looks good

formby · 09-13-2006, 09:32 PM

Quote:

-Have entire Rotating assembly Balanced.

honda does a the best job balancing their cranks... i wouldnt let them do that

GSRCRXsi · 09-13-2006, 11:15 PM

wire tuck looks good but i never have the patience to do it. i just make the wiring look clean and stock-ish. if it aint broke dont fix it. just some advice though, take your time, be maticulous (like OCD maticulous) and double and triple check everything along the way making sure things still work. it would really suck to get it all done and find out you really screwed up and have to retrace everything (which is now in not so easy to reach places).

looks like you re doing a good job so far though, so

Calesta · 09-14-2006, 01:16 AM

Very very nice!

Formby- there are quite a few machine shops that do an excellent job at balancing the rotating assembly. Honda probably doesn't take the balance as far as most machine shops... they only have to satisfy a minimum requirement for daily drivers, and every balance I've ever had done is a "10k rpm balance" job.

Andrew · 09-14-2006, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSRCRXsi

wire tuck looks good but i never have the patience to do it. i just make the wiring look clean and stock-ish. if it aint broke dont fix it. just some advice though, take your time, be maticulous (like OCD maticulous) and double and triple check everything along the way making sure things still work. it would really suck to get it all done and find out you really screwed up and have to retrace everything (which is now in not so easy to reach places).

looks like you re doing a good job so far though, so

I gave it a lot of thought before attempting it. Luckily I've got 1 month to do it, so I'm definatly taking my time. today and/or tomorrow I'll probably get started on soldering, and will obviously make sure all my solder points are extremely good.. Thanks for the helpful reminder!

KMS is a very respectable company, and I'm confident they will do a fine job.
They're useing top of the line equipment(cheapest cnc he has is $100k), and he has a lot of experience...

-Andrew

pissedoffsol · 09-14-2006, 10:03 AM

kms has a good rep. i wouldn't worry about it. Tuck looks good. i still think its a lot of work for nothing though....

TurboMirage · 09-14-2006, 10:23 AM

i kind-of agree... a tuck does make things look cleaner and allows greater accessibility to the engine bay but not so much the wiring.

then again, if you arent changing the wiring much or not at all i think its worth it. i personally try to pull as much out as the engine bay as possible

d112crzy · 09-14-2006, 01:49 PM

looks nice, im actually doing a wire tuck on my accord too. But my engine is already in there and so far, ive only done the drivers side.

I probably wont finish up the pass side for a long time since I dont have the money to buy my battery relocation materials.

but as GSRCRXsi said, make you you check your wiring and check to see if it works before you finish the whole thing up. During my tuck, i somehow got the windshield wiper fucked up with my turn signals and everytime i turned on my turn signals my wipers would come on, lol.

keep up the good work!

Andrew · 09-14-2006, 05:43 PM

I'll be sure to throw my battery in there and check my lights and stuff before I put my fenders on, but I think the whole wire tuck concept is extremely simple:
Reroute wires from the engine bay around the outside of the bay, just by extending a few wires.
... It's just SOOO time consuming!! I've got about 4 wires extended already on the passenger side, but it took about 20 min!

Anyway, I've got some pics to upload, but I won't be able to do it for a few hours.
Check back late tonight or tomorrow for my progress.

-Andrew

Andrew · 09-14-2006, 05:49 PM

Scratch that, I made time:

More tomorrow!

d112crzy · 09-14-2006, 07:34 PM

yea, it is very simple, but even MORE time consuming. it took me about 3 days(working on it only at night after work, about 3 hours a night) just to do the drivers side. I didnt solder, i just used some electrical tape

I need more practice soldering wires before I attempt that.

formby · 09-14-2006, 07:52 PM

you just madea big mistake, you have to solder those connections, they are the veins of your electrical system
soldering is not hard at all : heat and apply solder

i would go back and do it over
m2c

great job andrew, keep it up

d112crzy · 09-14-2006, 07:55 PM

its been doing fine now for a few months.

and on the drivers side wiring, the only wires extended were for the lights, and thats about it.

Andrew · 09-14-2006, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by formby

you just madea big mistake, you have to solder those connections, they are the veins of your electrical system
soldering is not hard at all : heat and apply solder
i would go back and do it over

I agree. Even though it's working now, please trust us when we tell you that it may not last very long.
Having a good connection ensures proper current flow, which is pretty important if you wanna see through the darkness at night.

Like formby said, I too would suggest re-doing it correctly. Radioshack sells a butane soldering gun and .035" solder which is (IMO) perfect for this job. you don't have to worry about power wires for your soldering gun, and you can easily manuver everything w/o the excess tension on the iron.

There was a great tech article on soldering on here... *rummage, rummage*
Here it is.

Also go ahead and buy some heat shrink tubing from Home Depot or somewhere. It's MUCH better than electrical tape, as far as keeping a secure connection sealed.

Thanks for the nice compliment Formby. Good luck on that EK project!
-Andrew

Andrew · 09-15-2006, 08:18 PM

Update 9/15

Tada!

Passenger side is DONE! (all except for 2 wires....

... yes it was on purpose...)

Tomorrow I think I'll be extremely busy almost all day, so I doubt I'll be able to do any work.
Sunday we're going to the track. (1/4 mi)
My bro-n-law is running his GSR,
His dad is running his 600hp(on motor) ford ranger and will also test out the nitrous on it(freshly rebuilt motor, so he's only sprayin a 100 shot, then slowly easein' up to his 200/250 shot goal.
And I'll be there to take pictures and videos. (don't worry, I'll post them up)

Whattathink so far?

TurboMirage · 09-15-2006, 08:34 PM

noice job!

i wouldnt want to mount those electrical boxes so low, though. i would have probably elec-taped them all together and strapped them to the outer frame inside the fender.

Andrew · 09-15-2006, 08:56 PM

The Relays?
Naa. there fine. They're hidden/covered from rain by the bumper.(if thats what you meant)

TurboMirage · 09-15-2006, 09:20 PM

well yeah, but that doesnt mean water wont get in there.

09-11-2006, 08:54 AM	#1
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,586 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Got started on my Wire Tuck! 56k warning(I hope I know what I'm doing...) Well, since my motor is shipped off to KMS Engine Development, I figure I have about a month to get my engine bay looking sweet... So I decided to try my hand at a wire tuck. However, I'm not going all out and moving the fusebox into the cabin, I'm just hopeing to relocate it out of site, just so I don't have to go through all that hassle. (At least thats my plan as of now. we'll see how confident I feel after this easy stuff ) On with it: I'm gonna let the pictures do most of the talking. And this is how it sits right now: And thats that for now. The plan for today is to get it washed up and start prepping for paint.(re-painting it white to clean it up.) Updates soon! -Andrew __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-13-2006, 08:13 PM	#2
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,586 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Update 9/12 Well, it's been raining so bad the past few days. I finally got fed up and continued working. Even though I got soaked to the bone, I made a little head-way. 1. I pressure washed the engine bay. (oooooohhh.... shiney...) 2. I got the Drivers side all connected and ready to be wired/soldered. 3. Got the main cabin/engine bay harness stripped of the looming to allow my passenger-side headlight group to be re-loomed for a cleaner, easier tuck. Remember, I'm not pulling my fuse box into the cabin. I'm mainly tucking my head light wiring and re-locating most of the other wiring, including the Fusebox. No comments? __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-13-2006, 08:37 PM	#4
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,586 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	yeah... that whole, "water/electricity = bad" thing...... It'll be all dried in when i'm done with it. thx for the comment. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-13-2006, 08:41 PM	#5
formby learning in progress Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 27 Posts: 5,742 iTrader: 4 / 100% Ride: 00' Montero sport, 99' lsv civic Rep Power: 93	its looking good... __________________ SOMETIMES IN LIFE WE ALL NEED CHANGE! http://pandora.com/

09-13-2006, 08:41 PM	#6
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09-13-2006, 08:34 PM	#3
NissanNiNjA2nd Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,580 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 38	Doing an awesome job.... just watch the water goodness and I want to see it finished.

09-13-2006, 08:58 PM	#7
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,586 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Bottom End: -New Main Bearings -New Rod Bearings -Shot Peen Rods. -Micropolish Crank -Hone Cylinders -Install Pistons/Rings. KMS pistons- 11:1 compression. -Deck/Square Block -Have entire Rotating assembly Balanced. Top End: -Skunk2 IM -have yet to buy. -Stage 2 Cam. -Stage 2 Valves, Springs/Retainers. -Stage 2 port/polish. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-13-2006, 09:22 PM	#8
TurboMirage Running on two cylinders Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southbridge, MA Age: 25 Posts: 18,048 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer RPW E5 Coupe Rep Power: 334	looks good __________________ Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe. See what is done to the little Evo5. "If you don't like what I've done with my car, I will gladly refund all the money you put into it."

09-14-2006, 01:16 AM	#11
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,451 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 288	Very very nice! Formby- there are quite a few machine shops that do an excellent job at balancing the rotating assembly. Honda probably doesn't take the balance as far as most machine shops... they only have to satisfy a minimum requirement for daily drivers, and every balance I've ever had done is a "10k rpm balance" job. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

09-14-2006, 10:03 AM	#13
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	kms has a good rep. i wouldn't worry about it. Tuck looks good. i still think its a lot of work for nothing though....

09-14-2006, 10:23 AM	#14
TurboMirage Running on two cylinders Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southbridge, MA Age: 25 Posts: 18,048 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer RPW E5 Coupe Rep Power: 334	i kind-of agree... a tuck does make things look cleaner and allows greater accessibility to the engine bay but not so much the wiring. then again, if you arent changing the wiring much or not at all i think its worth it. i personally try to pull as much out as the engine bay as possible __________________ Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe. See what is done to the little Evo5. "If you don't like what I've done with my car, I will gladly refund all the money you put into it."

09-14-2006, 01:49 PM	#15
d112crzy im not a n0ob, trust me Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 133 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 Rep Power: 11	looks nice, im actually doing a wire tuck on my accord too. But my engine is already in there and so far, ive only done the drivers side. I probably wont finish up the pass side for a long time since I dont have the money to buy my battery relocation materials. but as GSRCRXsi said, make you you check your wiring and check to see if it works before you finish the whole thing up. During my tuck, i somehow got the windshield wiper fucked up with my turn signals and everytime i turned on my turn signals my wipers would come on, lol. keep up the good work! __________________ CB7Tuner Wiki PGMFI.org Wiki Want to know more about ecu tuning/chipping? *I now provide ecu chipping services* PM me for details and prices

09-14-2006, 05:43 PM	#16
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,586 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	I'll be sure to throw my battery in there and check my lights and stuff before I put my fenders on, but I think the whole wire tuck concept is extremely simple: Reroute wires from the engine bay around the outside of the bay, just by extending a few wires. ... It's just SOOO time consuming!! I've got about 4 wires extended already on the passenger side, but it took about 20 min! Anyway, I've got some pics to upload, but I won't be able to do it for a few hours. Check back late tonight or tomorrow for my progress. -Andrew __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-14-2006, 05:49 PM	#17
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,586 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Scratch that, I made time: More tomorrow! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-14-2006, 07:34 PM	#18
d112crzy im not a n0ob, trust me Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 133 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 Rep Power: 11	yea, it is very simple, but even MORE time consuming. it took me about 3 days(working on it only at night after work, about 3 hours a night) just to do the drivers side. I didnt solder, i just used some electrical tape I need more practice soldering wires before I attempt that. __________________ CB7Tuner Wiki PGMFI.org Wiki Want to know more about ecu tuning/chipping? *I now provide ecu chipping services* PM me for details and prices

09-14-2006, 07:52 PM	#19
formby learning in progress Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 27 Posts: 5,742 iTrader: 4 / 100% Ride: 00' Montero sport, 99' lsv civic Rep Power: 93	you just madea big mistake, you have to solder those connections, they are the veins of your electrical system soldering is not hard at all : heat and apply solder i would go back and do it over m2c great job andrew, keep it up __________________ SOMETIMES IN LIFE WE ALL NEED CHANGE! http://pandora.com/

09-14-2006, 07:55 PM	#20
d112crzy im not a n0ob, trust me Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 133 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 Rep Power: 11	its been doing fine now for a few months. and on the drivers side wiring, the only wires extended were for the lights, and thats about it. __________________ CB7Tuner Wiki PGMFI.org Wiki Want to know more about ecu tuning/chipping? *I now provide ecu chipping services* PM me for details and prices

09-15-2006, 08:18 PM	#22
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,586 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Update 9/15 Tada! Passenger side is DONE! (all except for 2 wires....... yes it was on purpose...) Tomorrow I think I'll be extremely busy almost all day, so I doubt I'll be able to do any work. Sunday we're going to the track. (1/4 mi) My bro-n-law is running his GSR, His dad is running his 600hp(on motor) ford ranger and will also test out the nitrous on it(freshly rebuilt motor, so he's only sprayin a 100 shot, then slowly easein' up to his 200/250 shot goal. And I'll be there to take pictures and videos. (don't worry, I'll post them up) Whattathink so far? __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-15-2006, 08:34 PM	#23
TurboMirage Running on two cylinders Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southbridge, MA Age: 25 Posts: 18,048 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer RPW E5 Coupe Rep Power: 334	noice job! i wouldnt want to mount those electrical boxes so low, though. i would have probably elec-taped them all together and strapped them to the outer frame inside the fender. __________________ Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe. See what is done to the little Evo5. "If you don't like what I've done with my car, I will gladly refund all the money you put into it."

09-15-2006, 08:56 PM	#24
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,586 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	The Relays? Naa. there fine. They're hidden/covered from rain by the bumper.(if thats what you meant) __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-15-2006, 09:20 PM	#25
TurboMirage Running on two cylinders Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southbridge, MA Age: 25 Posts: 18,048 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer RPW E5 Coupe Rep Power: 334	well yeah, but that doesnt mean water wont get in there. __________________ Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe. See what is done to the little Evo5. "If you don't like what I've done with my car, I will gladly refund all the money you put into it."

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