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Andrew · 09-29-2006, 09:55 PM

Well Calesta, unless you've already purchased some stuff online or something, maybe I could save your some trouble... Lowes carries everything you need, except for the box and mounting brackets(although you could probably make something with what they have there...).

I used 4 ga for the starter and 6 ga for the fusebox. After doing it I realized that 8 ga wouldof been maybe better for the fusebox, because I had to trim some wires to fit 1. into the ring connecter, and 2 into the fusebox itself.

The 4 ga wire is $0.25/ft.
The 6 ga wire is $0.19/ft - or something like that.
Bought some connectors for connnecting the 4 ga to the starter and ring terminals(if you don't already have some layin around somewhere), and it was about $5.00 with some heat-shrink tubing and stuff.

So all in all I'm sofar about $20 into it, but I still have yet to buy the box.

Like TurboMirage said, Advanced Auto's Marine battery box's work pretty well, and I know they carry mounting brackets, so I'll probably just buy one of those.

I've seen pretty good kits on Ebay for around $70-80, but then again... you can have that for 1/2 the price by doing it yourself(which I know you can!)

Anyway.. Just tryin to help a 'brotha out.

d112crzy · 09-30-2006, 01:18 PM

are all boxes NHRA legal tho?

Andrew · 09-30-2006, 01:46 PM

I'm not sure.

I believe the requirement is it has to be sealed and secured at 6 points, but I'm not positive. thats just something I seem to remember hearing.

Calesta · 09-30-2006, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

Well Calesta, unless you've already purchased some stuff online or something, maybe I could save your some trouble... Lowes carries everything you need, except for the box and mounting brackets(although you could probably make something with what they have there...).

Anyway.. Just tryin to help a 'brotha out.

No problem- I know what I need and where to get it- just have to do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by d112crzy

are all boxes NHRA legal tho?

No.

vtecsir1 · 10-01-2006, 12:38 AM

i thought that lengthing the wires was not good? i hear about strectching to achieve this look? im not a wiring guru but some componets have a certain resistances based on the original length? or am i a space cadet lol.

ScrapinSi · 10-01-2006, 07:19 AM

FYI, you could have just run a 4ga from back to front, then used a power distribution block in the front of the car somewhere.

Andrew · 10-01-2006, 08:29 AM

Yeah, I know I could have split it, but I didn't feel like it. I would have taken a couple more dollars and I wanted to keep my cash. Thanks for the idea though.

And vtecsir1, Thanks for the comment, but I'm in college for Aviation Mech, and we've covered everything there is to know about AC and DC circuits. The fact is, yes you cause slightly more resistance by 1. lengthening the wires, and 2. at the solder points(even though soldering is one of the best ways to do it., however, it wouldn't affect such a simple, small circuit as headlight wiring, especially when you only lengthen them less than a foot....

And it's just common sense-
If it did... don't you think more guys who have wiretucks will have problems?

Thanks for the comment, but rest assured there isnt anything wrong with lengthening a couple wires.

Andrew · 10-24-2006, 05:42 PM

Painting the bay again... just doing it right this time.
Heres a 'before':

-Andrew

d112crzy · 10-25-2006, 01:56 AM

nice. its gona look dope man.

ScrapinSi · 10-25-2006, 05:16 AM

Are those rags you are using to mask everythign off!?!?!

And FYI, NHRA States a battery box when located in the trunk must have:
A. Be secured by at least two 3/16" bolts through the floor of the car.
B. Have a battery cutoff switch on the outside
C. If it is a standard battery, must be located inside of an NHRA Approved Sealed Battery Box. (Not required for Optimas and such). And those battery boxes usually have a vent tube that runs outside the car.

Andrew · 10-25-2006, 07:28 PM

Yeah it's a mixture of rags, shopping bags, and tape. Thats how I roll...

Thanks for the battery information, but I'm not done installing it... it's just sitting there right now. I've just been slacking on it.. I've been focusing on the engine bay.

Thanks again though.
-Andrew

Calesta · 10-27-2006, 11:22 AM

Nice mask job!

d112crzy · 10-27-2006, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScrapinSi

Are those rags you are using to mask everythign off!?!?!

And FYI, NHRA States a battery box when located in the trunk must have:
A. Be secured by at least two 3/16" bolts through the floor of the car.
B. Have a battery cutoff switch on the outside
C. If it is a standard battery, must be located inside of an NHRA Approved Sealed Battery Box. (Not required for Optimas and such). And those battery boxes usually have a vent tube that runs outside the car.

thanks for that info man!

I guess I'll have to buy an optima now

theyre expensive as hell.

Andrew · 10-27-2006, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calesta

Nice mask job!

Thanks
I've still got to mask off the Xmember's, but then I'll spray it.
I picked up a couple cans of Acryllic Laquer today(white), and since I went with laquer I won't even bother with clearcoat.... since it's got a semi-clear finish anyway.

I'll be out of town this weekend, but plan on spraying the bay Monday morning.
Till then...

Calesta · 10-27-2006, 03:55 PM

Cool. I want to change colors on my truck, but it's going to take a bit more work. I'm not planning on plucking the engine to do it.

brian11to1 · 10-29-2006, 05:18 AM

Your shit is looking betteR...

I did my tuck recently... turnd out pretty good i think.
Both sides

the following are only the passenger side

The fuse panel is mounted behind the evaporator and above the ECU.

I also relocated the batter to the trunk using a rockford fosgate amp wiring kit. I got the kit really cheap, my buddy worked at best buy at the time... so we got the 79 kit for 25... i was happy. I used an Odyssey 545 battery, I think its a little small as i have some problems with it sometimes..

Sorry andrew, didnt mean to thread jack.

formby · 10-29-2006, 12:27 PM

andrew i have a moroso nhra blue box...pm me if you are interested

Taco15 · 10-29-2006, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by formby

andrew i have a moroso nhra blue box...pm me if you are interested

seen it in person. i can vouch that its in good cndition.

Andrew · 10-29-2006, 08:00 PM

PM me a price Mr. Formby. Thx.

formby · 10-29-2006, 08:18 PM

Taco15 · 10-29-2006, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew

PM me a price Mr. Formby. Thx.

1 million dollarrrrssss

Andrew · 10-30-2006, 11:27 AM

Lookin good brian!

B16RacerN2NR · 11-02-2006, 03:18 PM

Looks good Andrew.

When I did the Battery Relocation in my 89 4 door, I just put the fuse panel wire to the starter and ran 2g wire from the starter to the trunk. I used one of the Marine box's they have at autozone. The box cam with 2 brackets that bolt to the car and you run a strap (comes with the bax also) through the brackets and up over the box. Worked great, strapped down nice and tight, no play in it at all.

Anyway, down side to that was the first time I went to the track (1/4 mile) and the guys saw it, he said the way the box was tied down (with the strap) it wasn't in spec's for me to race because it needs to be bolted down with at least 3/4 inch bolts and on any car that you relocate the battery in needs to have an outside switch that cuts ALL power when switched off. He also told me that if you relocate the battery and are using a gel type battery, i.e. an Optima, you don't need to have it in a box.

Andrew · 11-02-2006, 10:11 PM

Well thats good to know. I'll be sure to secure it with some heavy-duty bolts(like I would anyway). Thanks for the info.

Update 11/2:

Painted the engine bay with white Acrylic Laquer, so it's got a nice, semi-glossy finish. It turned out great!

And I also painted my valve cover with the same stuff:
(primered it, wet sand, then paint.)
It looks a little better in person. Maybe when it's on the motor, in the car will you be able to tell it looks so good.
Oh, and I have yet to grind off the lettering. I'll post up another pic once i do.

And I talked to KMS. They're hoping to have the motor done and ready to ship back to me late this coming week. I'm starting to get kindof irritated, but, I'll just be glad when it gets here so I can roll my rex out and roll the El Camino in and work on it's swap..

-Andrew

formby · 11-02-2006, 10:18 PM

Quote:

I'll be sure to secure it with some heavy-duty bolts(like I would anyway).

"heavy duty bolts" come in different sizes... thought you knew

09-29-2006, 09:55 PM	#76
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Well Calesta, unless you've already purchased some stuff online or something, maybe I could save your some trouble... Lowes carries everything you need, except for the box and mounting brackets(although you could probably make something with what they have there...). I used 4 ga for the starter and 6 ga for the fusebox. After doing it I realized that 8 ga wouldof been maybe better for the fusebox, because I had to trim some wires to fit 1. into the ring connecter, and 2 into the fusebox itself. The 4 ga wire is $0.25/ft. The 6 ga wire is $0.19/ft - or something like that. Bought some connectors for connnecting the 4 ga to the starter and ring terminals(if you don't already have some layin around somewhere), and it was about $5.00 with some heat-shrink tubing and stuff. So all in all I'm sofar about $20 into it, but I still have yet to buy the box. Like TurboMirage said, Advanced Auto's Marine battery box's work pretty well, and I know they carry mounting brackets, so I'll probably just buy one of those. I've seen pretty good kits on Ebay for around $70-80, but then again... you can have that for 1/2 the price by doing it yourself(which I know you can!) Anyway.. Just tryin to help a 'brotha out. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

09-30-2006, 01:18 PM	#77
d112crzy im not a n0ob, trust me Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 133 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 Rep Power: 11	are all boxes NHRA legal tho? __________________ CB7Tuner Wiki PGMFI.org Wiki Want to know more about ecu tuning/chipping? *I now provide ecu chipping services* PM me for details and prices

09-30-2006, 01:46 PM	#78
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	I'm not sure. I believe the requirement is it has to be sealed and secured at 6 points, but I'm not positive. thats just something I seem to remember hearing. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

10-01-2006, 07:19 AM	#81
ScrapinSi Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,283 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 48	FYI, you could have just run a 4ga from back to front, then used a power distribution block in the front of the car somewhere. __________________ this country is turning into a bunch of fucking pussies... if this keeps up, pretty soon we'll be singing the french national anthem. -E_SolSi

10-01-2006, 08:29 AM	#82
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Yeah, I know I could have split it, but I didn't feel like it. I would have taken a couple more dollars and I wanted to keep my cash. Thanks for the idea though. And vtecsir1, Thanks for the comment, but I'm in college for Aviation Mech, and we've covered everything there is to know about AC and DC circuits. The fact is, yes you cause slightly more resistance by 1. lengthening the wires, and 2. at the solder points(even though soldering is one of the best ways to do it., however, it wouldn't affect such a simple, small circuit as headlight wiring, especially when you only lengthen them less than a foot.... And it's just common sense- If it did... don't you think more guys who have wiretucks will have problems? Thanks for the comment, but rest assured there isnt anything wrong with lengthening a couple wires. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.


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10-01-2006, 12:38 AM	#80
vtecsir1 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Age: 29 Posts: 2,761 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 43	i thought that lengthing the wires was not good? i hear about strectching to achieve this look? im not a wiring guru but some componets have a certain resistances based on the original length? or am i a space cadet lol.

10-24-2006, 05:42 PM	#83
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Painting the bay again... just doing it right this time. Heres a 'before': -Andrew __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

10-25-2006, 01:56 AM	#84
d112crzy im not a n0ob, trust me Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 133 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 Rep Power: 11	nice. its gona look dope man. __________________ CB7Tuner Wiki PGMFI.org Wiki Want to know more about ecu tuning/chipping? *I now provide ecu chipping services* PM me for details and prices

10-25-2006, 05:16 AM	#85
ScrapinSi Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,283 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 48	Are those rags you are using to mask everythign off!?!?! And FYI, NHRA States a battery box when located in the trunk must have: A. Be secured by at least two 3/16" bolts through the floor of the car. B. Have a battery cutoff switch on the outside C. If it is a standard battery, must be located inside of an NHRA Approved Sealed Battery Box. (Not required for Optimas and such). And those battery boxes usually have a vent tube that runs outside the car. __________________ this country is turning into a bunch of fucking pussies... if this keeps up, pretty soon we'll be singing the french national anthem. -E_SolSi

10-25-2006, 07:28 PM	#86
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Yeah it's a mixture of rags, shopping bags, and tape. Thats how I roll... Thanks for the battery information, but I'm not done installing it... it's just sitting there right now. I've just been slacking on it.. I've been focusing on the engine bay. Thanks again though. -Andrew __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

10-27-2006, 11:22 AM	#87
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	Nice mask job! __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

10-27-2006, 03:55 PM	#90
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	Cool. I want to change colors on my truck, but it's going to take a bit more work. I'm not planning on plucking the engine to do it. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

10-29-2006, 05:18 AM	#91
brian11to1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,000 iTrader: 2 / 100% Rep Power: 111	Your shit is looking betteR... I did my tuck recently... turnd out pretty good i think. Both sides the following are only the passenger side The fuse panel is mounted behind the evaporator and above the ECU. I also relocated the batter to the trunk using a rockford fosgate amp wiring kit. I got the kit really cheap, my buddy worked at best buy at the time... so we got the 79 kit for 25... i was happy. I used an Odyssey 545 battery, I think its a little small as i have some problems with it sometimes.. Sorry andrew, didnt mean to thread jack. __________________ 90 Integra Sedan B20V 225 / 153 I DO NOT answer tech questions via PM. Use the forums!!! Last edited by brian11to1; 10-29-2006 at 05:21 AM.

10-29-2006, 12:27 PM	#92
formby learning in progress Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 27 Posts: 5,742 iTrader: 4 / 100% Ride: 00' Montero sport, 99' lsv civic Rep Power: 93	andrew i have a moroso nhra blue box...pm me if you are interested __________________ SOMETIMES IN LIFE WE ALL NEED CHANGE! http://pandora.com/

10-29-2006, 08:00 PM	#94
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	PM me a price Mr. Formby. Thx. __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

10-29-2006, 08:18 PM	#95
formby learning in progress Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 27 Posts: 5,742 iTrader: 4 / 100% Ride: 00' Montero sport, 99' lsv civic Rep Power: 93	ok __________________ SOMETIMES IN LIFE WE ALL NEED CHANGE! http://pandora.com/

10-30-2006, 11:27 AM	#97
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Lookin good brian! __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

11-02-2006, 03:18 PM	#98
B16RacerN2NR I'll be back... Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Rancho Cucamonga - UTI Age: 26 Posts: 5,079 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 06 Mazda 5, 91 Civic DX Rep Power: 156	Looks good Andrew. When I did the Battery Relocation in my 89 4 door, I just put the fuse panel wire to the starter and ran 2g wire from the starter to the trunk. I used one of the Marine box's they have at autozone. The box cam with 2 brackets that bolt to the car and you run a strap (comes with the bax also) through the brackets and up over the box. Worked great, strapped down nice and tight, no play in it at all. Anyway, down side to that was the first time I went to the track (1/4 mile) and the guys saw it, he said the way the box was tied down (with the strap) it wasn't in spec's for me to race because it needs to be bolted down with at least 3/4 inch bolts and on any car that you relocate the battery in needs to have an outside switch that cuts ALL power when switched off. He also told me that if you relocate the battery and are using a gel type battery, i.e. an Optima, you don't need to have it in a box. __________________ Real Eyes Realize Real Lies

11-02-2006, 10:11 PM	#99
Andrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 2,589 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1991 CRX Si Rep Power: 47	Well thats good to know. I'll be sure to secure it with some heavy-duty bolts(like I would anyway). Thanks for the info. Update 11/2: Painted the engine bay with white Acrylic Laquer, so it's got a nice, semi-glossy finish. It turned out great! And I also painted my valve cover with the same stuff: (primered it, wet sand, then paint.) It looks a little better in person. Maybe when it's on the motor, in the car will you be able to tell it looks so good. Oh, and I have yet to grind off the lettering. I'll post up another pic once i do. And I talked to KMS. They're hoping to have the motor done and ready to ship back to me late this coming week. I'm starting to get kindof irritated, but, I'll just be glad when it gets here so I can roll my rex out and roll the El Camino in and work on it's swap.. -Andrew __________________ 1991 CRX Si 2007 Civic Si Sedan My Engine Swap Write-ups: HG FPR Wheel Smiley Cluster. Adapters.

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