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TurboMirage · 03-21-2008, 12:54 PM

badass. very nicely done.

E_SolSi · 03-21-2008, 01:07 PM

most of that shit isnt new at all
hell 90% of the shit they were talking about was available on the insight way back in 2000

TurboMirage · 03-21-2008, 01:39 PM

ratio of those of us who have owned an insight to not:

1 : 34823423

K2e2vin · 03-21-2008, 01:56 PM

How many of us own R18s?

92civicb18b1 · 03-21-2008, 05:02 PM

Yea, I didn't expect it to be new technology, just and interesting video, but I own an r18.

I just found out there's been development for a turbo kit, on 5 psi with a td04 *I think* it was making 176 whp, close to 200 at 8 psi and that's on the auto. I gotta find out what kind of fuel management they're using and build my own kit cause that's not a bad power increase.

get_nick · 03-21-2008, 05:07 PM

i didn't watch the whole thing, what is the mpg for it?

92civicb18b1 · 03-21-2008, 07:08 PM

I usually get around 25-30 with mixed city/highway. And even though it's auto I drive it pretty hard, so I'm impressed with it.

jp_p5 · 03-21-2008, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E_SolSi

most of that shit isnt new at all
hell 90% of the shit they were talking about was available on the insight way back in 2000

LS_VTEC · 03-21-2008, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by get_nick

i didn't watch the whole thing, what is the mpg for it?

They say it gets similar mpg ratings as the honda 1.5L engine.

Celerity · 03-22-2008, 09:44 AM

you ever wonder how BORED honda engineers are, explaining VTEC ?

"OH shit George... the fucking board has some investors. It's your turn"

MadMaXXX · 03-25-2008, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celerity

you ever wonder how BORED honda engineers are, explaining VTEC ?

"OH shit George... the fucking board has some investors. It's your turn"

thats why they spice up their presentations with that hip, thumping, techno music. Im also pretty sure i heard the price is right theme song in there.

Jizared97 · 03-25-2008, 10:15 PM

I like it...

Heres something else interesting...
Don't know if anyone else posted this

Detroit 2008: Honda gives us a peek at the i-DTEC clean diesel - Autoblog

DIESEL HONDA FTW
I think i saw that it gets between 52-62mpg

92civicb18b1 · 03-25-2008, 11:09 PM

First time I saw that.

very cool.

Jizared97 · 03-25-2008, 11:15 PM

Its going to be weird having a honda around with significantly more torque than horsepower.

Calesta · 03-26-2008, 11:23 PM

That video is pretty cool.

Yeah, the technology has been around- but now Honda is putting it all into a mass produced mainstream engine that will go into their normal line of cars- not just the hybrids or the higher performance models, but everything. When specs for the R18 first started coming out, I thought that it would be the new tuner engine. The efficiency is great, plus the bore/stroke geometry makes things REALLY easy on the aftermarket.

philyphreak2127 · 03-27-2008, 04:14 AM

I can't wait to see that i-dtec in action.

92civicb18b1 · 03-27-2008, 07:14 AM

But the pistons are oddly shaped, the exhaust manifold is way beyond normal, the intake manifold is plastic, it's DWB, there's minimal room in the engine bay of the Civic equipped with the R18. There are other cons, but those are the worse of them.

FWIW, it's not a bad motor, it is rather torquey for a 1.8 but power is slightly disappointing, granted I have an auto so that plays a little factor.

But the Dtec is interesting, when it comes out I'd trade my FI in for it. Aren't the diesels being produced in Europe and Japan already?

Calesta · 03-27-2008, 11:36 PM

Everything you cited as a "weird" might get in the way of modders, but they always find a way around it... plus all those characteristics made the most sense in a production scenario. They never design the car with the modders in mind.

K2e2vin · 03-28-2008, 03:36 AM

The R18 is a pretty peppy motor. Seems like it would be an excellent swap for EF's and EG's, but the wiring makes it difficult.

92civicb18b1 · 03-28-2008, 07:09 AM

Oh yea I think it would do nicely in an EG. It would be faster then an LS but no where near a GSR.

Quote:

Everything you cited as a "weird" might get in the way of modders, but they always find a way around it... plus all those characteristics made the most sense in a production scenario. They never design the car with the modders in mind.

Very true, and I plan on modding it still. I don't see myself fabricating parts part I do want to turbo it eventually.

Calesta · 03-29-2008, 10:03 AM

I would love one or two to play with on a bench.

03-21-2008, 12:31 PM	#1
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03-21-2008, 12:54 PM	#2
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03-21-2008, 01:39 PM	#4
TurboMirage Running on two cylinders Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southbridge, MA Age: 25 Posts: 18,155 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer RPW E5 Coupe Rep Power: 337	ratio of those of us who have owned an insight to not: 1 : 34823423 __________________ Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe. See what is done to the little Evo5. "If you don't like what I've done with my car, I will gladly refund all the money you put into it."

03-21-2008, 01:56 PM	#5
K2e2vin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 22 Posts: 6,358 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 88 Honda Civic HB Rep Power: 150	How many of us own R18s? __________________ 1988 Honda Civic Standard-more mods than I want to list 1992 Honda Accord LX 1996 Toyota Avalon-Spun bearing, for sale. Terrorists have successfully attacked our imagination. RIP Jon Eban Nie, August 31, 1991 - May 7, 2006 Y-Daniel Siu Eban, September 7, 1986 - May 7, 2006

03-21-2008, 05:02 PM	#6
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	Yea, I didn't expect it to be new technology, just and interesting video, but I own an r18. I just found out there's been development for a turbo kit, on 5 psi with a td04 I think it was making 176 whp, close to 200 at 8 psi and that's on the auto. I gotta find out what kind of fuel management they're using and build my own kit cause that's not a bad power increase. __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1


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03-21-2008, 07:08 PM	#8
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	I usually get around 25-30 with mixed city/highway. And even though it's auto I drive it pretty hard, so I'm impressed with it. __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

03-25-2008, 10:15 PM	#13
Jizared97 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SC Age: 19 Posts: 705 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 97 ex coupe, 89 240sx Rep Power: 44	I like it... Heres something else interesting... Don't know if anyone else posted this Detroit 2008: Honda gives us a peek at the i-DTEC clean diesel - Autoblog DIESEL HONDA FTW I think i saw that it gets between 52-62mpg

03-25-2008, 11:09 PM	#14
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	First time I saw that. very cool. __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

03-25-2008, 11:15 PM	#15
Jizared97 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SC Age: 19 Posts: 705 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 97 ex coupe, 89 240sx Rep Power: 44	Its going to be weird having a honda around with significantly more torque than horsepower.

03-26-2008, 11:23 PM	#16
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	That video is pretty cool. Yeah, the technology has been around- but now Honda is putting it all into a mass produced mainstream engine that will go into their normal line of cars- not just the hybrids or the higher performance models, but everything. When specs for the R18 first started coming out, I thought that it would be the new tuner engine. The efficiency is great, plus the bore/stroke geometry makes things REALLY easy on the aftermarket. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

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philyphreak2127 The name's Sam Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: morrison, co Age: 20 Posts: 1,510 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 98 civic dx sedan, 80 trans am Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 26	I can't wait to see that i-dtec in action. __________________ Parts for sale: http://hondaswap.com/parts-sale-trad...-parts-115446/ Build Threads: Civic: http://hondaswap.com/civic-del-sol-eg-ek/d16y8-n-build-112401/5.html Trans Am: http://hondaswap.com/other-vehicle-discussions/1980-trans-am-build-thread-oh-yeah-its-official-149941/#post1054318

03-27-2008, 07:14 AM	#18
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	But the pistons are oddly shaped, the exhaust manifold is way beyond normal, the intake manifold is plastic, it's DWB, there's minimal room in the engine bay of the Civic equipped with the R18. There are other cons, but those are the worse of them. FWIW, it's not a bad motor, it is rather torquey for a 1.8 but power is slightly disappointing, granted I have an auto so that plays a little factor. But the Dtec is interesting, when it comes out I'd trade my FI in for it. Aren't the diesels being produced in Europe and Japan already? __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

03-27-2008, 11:36 PM	#19
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	Everything you cited as a "weird" might get in the way of modders, but they always find a way around it... plus all those characteristics made the most sense in a production scenario. They never design the car with the modders in mind. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

03-28-2008, 03:36 AM	#20
K2e2vin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 22 Posts: 6,358 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 88 Honda Civic HB Rep Power: 150	The R18 is a pretty peppy motor. Seems like it would be an excellent swap for EF's and EG's, but the wiring makes it difficult. __________________ 1988 Honda Civic Standard-more mods than I want to list 1992 Honda Accord LX 1996 Toyota Avalon-Spun bearing, for sale. Terrorists have successfully attacked our imagination. RIP Jon Eban Nie, August 31, 1991 - May 7, 2006 Y-Daniel Siu Eban, September 7, 1986 - May 7, 2006

03-29-2008, 10:03 AM	#22
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	I would love one or two to play with on a bench. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

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Kinda interesting, r18a1