Mac's 94 DB8 project thread AKA: Project Aeris.. ITR stuff, body work.. ect

[hazzardboy95]

What was the reading on the danger ranger?

[Andrew]

477/46x @6500 rpm

[hazzardboy95]

Thats one hell of a ride man. Is it actually yours?

[Andrew]

Yeah it's terrances. His dad did most of the wrenching, but Terrance helped out whenever he could(with whatever he could).
It's QUITE a wild ride... goin down the road @ 60 and stop it in high gear and it breaks loose(NO spray!)

Insane...

[hazzardboy95]

Thats crazy. What is it a 302, it sounded pretty manly and without being built a 302 wouldnt put out those kinds of numbers?

[Andrew]

built 351. Windsor I think.
I think they were hoping for a little bit more NA power, but all-in-all, they're VERY happy to know what it's doing.
Now they can fine-tune it and squeeze a little bit more out of it.(IIRC it was running 1-2 lean.)

[hazzardboy95]

Not to shabby. Dont want to thread jack but check out my post in the acura section and let me know what you think.

[mac_24_seven]

Originally Posted by hazzardboy95

Thats crazy. What is it a 302, it sounded pretty manly and without being built a 302 wouldnt put out those kinds of numbers?

Too many variables.. What year engine? It's not gonna be a whole lot regardless.

ANd Andrew, dad figured out why the NA #'s were low.

The first run, the dyno stopped readong at 4500 RPM. The horsepower @ 4500 was a little above 350. The next NA run, it was 338.
What was the difference between the 2 runs?

ON the first run, the 93 octance gas was still in the carb/fuel lines and it was running off of that. By the second run, the 114 octane (for the ntrous) had made its way through the system and well, since the engine was NOT built to run on 114 octane, it hurt it.

Words of wisdom to anybody who thinks putting higher octane in their car will make them faster We'll go back and get better #'s when there is more time to tune and whatnot

BTW, the trick ran 10.6 @ 126 on it's first and only nitrous run in the 1/4 mile

[Andrew]

+ your dad has done more tuning since then...

That makes sense about the fuel though.
I need to run 100LL av/gas in my car like Steven in his riced-out cavileer did. Maybe then I'll run 12's at the track.

[hazzardboy95]

holy shit batman, fuck the bat mobile.

[mac_24_seven]

You like?

[hazzardboy95]

yes

[Andrew]

So is that going to be your inlet for the two lines, run I guess with a Tee in the line? (PCV and Valve Cover)
Basically, 1 dirty IN(VC/PCV "tee'ed" together) and 2 clean OUT(IM)??

Don't tell me you have it backwards(2 on side for Dirty IN, and 1 on top for clean out).. unless you've read something on Team-Integra making you plan on sucking up oil from the bottom of the can?


Please elaborate.

[mac_24_seven]

No... I'm going to have 2 dirty inlets (pcv, valve cover) and one outlet.

My tube is about 3" from the bottom, so I've got plenty of room for the air to go out.

This is modeled after ENDYN's catch can.. I wish I could find the diagram LArry Widmer made on how it works, but I havnt been able to.

[klyph]

I hate it when I burn my hand with the crackpipe.

[mac_24_seven]

That burn netted me another 8 HP and 5 lbs of torque!

I burnt it on the header while I was looseining one of the bolts on the power steering bracket. I only had, literally, like a minute to do it....I could'nt stop..

And I didn't have time for pain Thats some true ninJa stuff there man

[Andrew]

Originally Posted by mac_24_seven

No... I'm going to have 2 dirty inlets (pcv, valve cover) and one outlet.

My tube is about 3" from the bottom, so I've got plenty of room for the air to go out.

This is modeled after ENDYN's catch can.. I wish I could find the diagram LArry Widmer made on how it works, but I havnt been able to.

Thats cool and all, I just don't really see why it needs the pickup tube. maybe to avoid the oiley gases to flow directly from the inlets up to the outlet?
I'd like to see that diagram of Endyne. I trust you did good research on it, I'd just like to see it.

[mac_24_seven]

Nononono n00bie.. It's not a picup tube.. It's a BAFFLE.

In addition to the oily air being filtered by whatever I'm gonna use to filter it, it's has to travel around and up the tube... It keeps it from going straight into the catch can into the Intake manifold.


Thats what I've been looking for. You can see the baffled design and how it works. Though theirs is still better than mine, you get the idea.....

Though (idea popped into head) I could really duplicate it and truely baffle the tube by cutting it into 4 pieces, punching out 3/4" slugs and drilling a 3/8 hole in them, THEN inserting the plugs into the pipe and welding them in. Thus, the air would have to make its way through 3 little holes, further filtering it while minimizing restriction.

Hmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnn.......Perhaps I will do this today. Lemme go and see what I can do

**Edit** Yep, I'll be able to do it. I got my plugs and had them tacked together so I can drill them all at once in the drill press. First break is coming up here in a little bit and I should be able to drill out the holes AND measure/cut the pipe.
I'll have it all welded together shortly afterwards You guys enj0y this and take note.. It's a rare thing when I actually get an idea and it works.

[hazzardboy95]

If it werks it werks!!!

[eg6sir]

Originally Posted by hazzardboy95

If it werks it werks!!!

its works not werks

[hazzardboy95]

Your going to point out my spelling, come on. I just cant win.

[klyph]

I think it would work better like this


That way the tube in the can doesn't suck up oil when the oil reaches the level of the bottom of the tube.

[mac_24_seven]

I havn't installed the drain yet.. ANd I'm debating on if I'm gonna have it drain back into the engine or not.

[Andrew]

Yeah, what Cliff mentioned is what I was saying:

Originally Posted by Andrew

So is that going to be your inlet for the two lines, run I guess with a Tee in the line? (PCV and Valve Cover)
Basically, 1 dirty IN(VC/PCV "tee'ed" together) and 2 clean OUT(IM)??

Don't tell me you have it backwards(2 on side for Dirty IN, and 1 on top for clean out).. unless you've read something on Team-Integra making you plan on sucking up oil from the bottom of the can?
.

That way doesnt make any sense to me. But w/e. If Endyne does it, it must be ok, but I would route mine like klyph and I mentioned.

[mac_24_seven]

Originally Posted by hazzardboy95

Your going to point out my spelling, come on. I just cant win.

It's a'ite mang. Andrew gets me on my spelling all the time. Or actually, just my typing/proof reading :P]


Anyway... I don't understand what the problem is? The tube IS NOT for a pick up or anything, it's acting as a baffle so the air just doesn't go right in and right out.. It's gotta travel a little ways.

Also, I don't understand why I can't have 2 lines in and 1 line out?
Take a look at this... The above picture isn't from ENDYN, my bad.. But THIS ONE is (it even says so on the top :P)


They have 1 line out to the manifold and one line in and that line is coming from the crank case... I'll have that AND one from the valve cover And from the many threads I"ve read on Team_integra.. This is a highly debated topic, on if you should have a line running from your valve cover to the catch can.

Again, I don't see the problem with my setup You guys just hate me (runs away crying)