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LS_VTEC · 03-10-2008, 11:34 PM

Just for clarification purposes and to help you find the correct ecu.... 96-98 civic wiring harness (ecu side) will use an obd2a ecu. 99-00 civics will use an obd2b ecu. If you keep your stock engine harness, find the correct ecu or you will end up spending more money on a jumper harness.

Matts96HB · 03-10-2008, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LS_VTEC

Just for clarification purposes and to help you find the correct ecu.... 96-98 civic wiring harness (ecu side) will use an obd2a ecu. 99-00 civics will use an obd2b ecu. If you keep your stock engine harness, find the correct ecu or you will end up spending more money on a jumper harness.

I'm confused as to what you are talking about.

I already have an obd2a>obd1 jumper harness for tuning with the turbocharger installed.

I'll be running CROME.

Matts96HB · 03-14-2008, 11:21 PM

More progress, don't have the camera right now so pics will have to wait till tomorrow.

Got the engine apart, wiring run for the gauges. Also got the interior pulled out, ready for cleaning on the carpets, new fuel pump, wiring for amplifiers.

I'm really happy with how everything is going right now, I figured this would be a mess with all the things that are coming apart at once, but its going really smoothly.

Matts96HB · 03-16-2008, 11:57 PM

Update. Here's pics of how the car sits right now.

Engine out, stripped, ready for honing and new internals.

A look down the cylinders. I can't lie, this engine was exactly what jdmonline said it would be, low miles. You can still see the factory crosshatching. No scoring whatsoever. Even after almost a year of me driving it and almost 10,000 miles more than when I got it.

How the interior sits right now. Still trying to decide on what I'm going to do with the interior.

Gauges in, and wired up. I like the way they look. I need to find a spot for the boost gauge.

The engine bay. Needs a good cleaning and it will be getting repainted. New sheeth for all the wiring, and a wiring tuck if I can stop being such a lazy ass.

This is where the core support meets the chassis on the drivers side of the car. What a bitch this was. Don't hit things. Trees and cars dont mix.

B16 transmission laying off to the side. New clutch and flywheel are in order.

The workspace. Clean and organized. Thats the only way to be

More updates soon as the new core support will be going on.

philyphreak2127 · 03-17-2008, 01:16 AM

nice progress. I got an idea for your interior. two racing seats a mid brace, and 5 point harnesses. thats all you really need!

Matts96HB · 03-17-2008, 08:23 PM

I think my dad and I are going to fabricate all the braces. My dads really good at that sort of thing and he has already come up with a design for a traction bar. He thought he was making some sort of spot for me to jack it up on besides the core support, and it ended up being a traction bar.

Matts96HB · 03-18-2008, 04:13 PM

More Updates.

Core Support is off, engine bay cleared (for the most part) degreasing in progress.

Another shot of the engine bay.

Interior getting stripped, I'm going to be dying the carpet black and hiding alot of wiring.

Another shot of the interior. Not too shabby for 170,000 miles. I found $4.16 in change in here lol.

Thats it for now! I'm sure I'll have more pics tonight.

philyphreak2127 · 03-18-2008, 10:23 PM

$4.16? damn you can officially put that as the first gallon of gas into this motor. But either way nice car good progress. Can't wait to see this thing finished.

Matts96HB · 03-18-2008, 10:26 PM

Haha yeah I may get a gallon, depending on how long it takes me to get the thing finished. If I get it done by summer it may not even get me a gallon ^.^

Anyway, well im glad there's at least one person following my thread lol.

SlushboxTeggy · 03-18-2008, 11:00 PM

I followed it early on and just found it again. Nice work. I need a project to take up my free time so I don't go insane.

Matts96HB · 03-19-2008, 12:34 AM

^ Nice

Yeah, this has definately kept me out of trouble lately, I've been workin on it non stop and when I'm not working on it I'm looking for parts. Lots of little things that had to be fixed, been making lots of trips to Honda and the junkard to find stock pieces that were broken. Even got a cut off of a civic today, part of the framerail. The end of mine was all gunked up so I used some pieces to fix it. Ill post pics tomorrow.

Matts96HB · 03-20-2008, 07:49 PM

OEM Bearings ordered. Some body/frame work done last night, new piece ready to go on as soon as my dad and I make an extension cord for the welder. As of right now the 220 outlet is too far away from the car, the welder wont reach. As soon as thats done, its time to tack the new core support on and start aligning things.

Pics tonight!

philyphreak2127 · 03-20-2008, 09:19 PM

I'm definately following this thread. I am excited to see the end results. I always like to see what my "piers" are building. lol hey is it true some b16 trannys have the lsd as well? I had heard it was only the type-r but someone mentioned it with a b16 tranny.

Matts96HB · 03-21-2008, 01:19 AM

Thanks for following

. Lots of hard work going into this thing. Doin it on my own, too! My dad is there if I say "Hey, can you hold this clamp in place?" Or somethin like that, but he is too busy with other things to help me as much as he has in the past.

Yes, some B16 tranny's come with factory LSD. Both cable and hydro.

Matts96HB · 03-21-2008, 01:25 AM

Updates!
Yes, I know there is updates nearly every night, but I'm making alot of progress (or at least I feel that way.) Anyway, on to the pics!

New core support is in place and tacked to the frame. Man, it looks so much better. No more bent up spots and things line up the way they should.

This next pic was a huge problem spot for me. When I first got the car, I smashed into a tree. The tree came right in between the headlight and the grill. It bent the end of the framerail and it really was a pain in the arse to get it back to shape. It's not by any means perfect, but things line up how they should and thats what I wanted. Here's a pic of how it looks now, with the core support tacked up.

And one last pic. Everything sits level, I love it.
A tip for those who are working on changing a core support or plan on doing it in the future: Get everything as level as possible on jackstands or a lift. Also, when putting the new core support on, tack things together first, then hang the body panels and headlights and such to make sure its right. Then go back and do the spot welds.

Thanks for looking! More updates to come, as usual.

philyphreak2127 · 03-21-2008, 09:47 AM

I was wondering about that lsd because a buddy of mine bought a civic hatch with a crv/vtec in it but it has the b16 tranny and I was telling him to replace it with one with the lsd. Which is probably better for him because whoever did the swap did not know what they were doing at all. Well dang, maybe I should do a b-series swap in my civic. hmmmm....its a thought. By the way the core support looks way better than it did to begin with!

Matts96HB · 03-21-2008, 03:16 PM

^ Thanks man, and the pictures really don't do it justice. The old one was simply disgusting, twisted in ways that metal should not be twisted.

Anyway, yeah an LSD is something I'd definately recommend with a B-series swap.

philyphreak2127 · 03-22-2008, 08:15 PM

for sure he actually listened to me when it came to that so he is lookin for a type-r tranny he can go through replace all the gaskets and what not on, then he will throw it in the car when he pulls the motor to put his forged pistons, and rods, and crank in. All I know is both you guys' cars will be beasts. I still insist on rockin the sohc vtec d-series lol But yeah got any plans for boost?

BrutalB83 · 03-22-2008, 11:00 PM

Awesome project man! Good work!

Matts96HB · 03-23-2008, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philyphreak2127

for sure he actually listened to me when it came to that so he is lookin for a type-r tranny he can go through replace all the gaskets and what not on, then he will throw it in the car when he pulls the motor to put his forged pistons, and rods, and crank in. All I know is both you guys' cars will be beasts. I still insist on rockin the sohc vtec d-series lol But yeah got any plans for boost?

Yes, plans for boost. I have most of the parts lying around the shop.

New pistons/rods (JE and Eagle), ARP hardware, T3/T4, shooting for at least 300 whp.

Matts96HB · 03-23-2008, 03:14 AM

More updates! Tonight's focus was mocking the car up to make sure the core support was in the proper place.

These pics are after several hours of grinding off tack welds and adjusting the position of the core support. It lines up nice now and I LOVE this front end.

MMM FRONT MOUNT GOODNESS!

Thanks for looking.

philyphreak2127 · 03-23-2008, 04:32 AM

wow I am dense. its says that right in your signature. lol But 300 horses in a hatch should be pretty fast. Car is looking mighty fine bro. I love that intercooler in there.

Matts96HB · 03-23-2008, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philyphreak2127

wow I am dense. its says that right in your signature. lol But 300 horses in a hatch should be pretty fast. Car is looking mighty fine bro. I love that intercooler in there.

Its all good man, sometimes people dont update their sigs for years.

Thanks man, its taken alot of work to get it to this point.

tonton · 03-23-2008, 01:36 PM

Hey Matt, why didn't you swap a k20 in there? You can up to 500whp with stock internals on those. And yea a 2.0 is always better than a 1.8.

BrutalB83 · 03-23-2008, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonton

Hey Matt, why didn't you swap a k20 in there? You can up to 500whp with stock internals on those. And yea a 2.0 is always better than a 1.8.

Yeah, but they also cost 2-3 times as much, and 500 horses is kind of impractical on a street-driven FWD car, wouldn't you say?

03-16-2008, 11:57 PM	#79
Matts96HB Posts: 5,683	Update. Here's pics of how the car sits right now. Engine out, stripped, ready for honing and new internals. A look down the cylinders. I can't lie, this engine was exactly what jdmonline said it would be, low miles. You can still see the factory crosshatching. No scoring whatsoever. Even after almost a year of me driving it and almost 10,000 miles more than when I got it. How the interior sits right now. Still trying to decide on what I'm going to do with the interior. Gauges in, and wired up. I like the way they look. I need to find a spot for the boost gauge. The engine bay. Needs a good cleaning and it will be getting repainted. New sheeth for all the wiring, and a wiring tuck if I can stop being such a lazy ass. This is where the core support meets the chassis on the drivers side of the car. What a bitch this was. Don't hit things. Trees and cars dont mix. B16 transmission laying off to the side. New clutch and flywheel are in order. The workspace. Clean and organized. Thats the only way to be More updates soon as the new core support will be going on. __________________ Engineering is a great profession. There is the satisfaction of watching a figment of the imagination emerge through the aid of science to a plan on paper. Then it moves to realisation in stone or metal or energy. Then it brings homes to men or women. Then it elevates the standard of living and adds to the comforts of life. This is the engineer's high privilege. ~Herbert Hoover

03-18-2008, 04:13 PM	#82
Matts96HB Posts: 5,683	More Updates. Core Support is off, engine bay cleared (for the most part) degreasing in progress. Another shot of the engine bay. Interior getting stripped, I'm going to be dying the carpet black and hiding alot of wiring. Another shot of the interior. Not too shabby for 170,000 miles. I found $4.16 in change in here lol. Thats it for now! I'm sure I'll have more pics tonight. __________________ Engineering is a great profession. There is the satisfaction of watching a figment of the imagination emerge through the aid of science to a plan on paper. Then it moves to realisation in stone or metal or energy. Then it brings homes to men or women. Then it elevates the standard of living and adds to the comforts of life. This is the engineer's high privilege. ~Herbert Hoover

03-21-2008, 01:25 AM	#90
Matts96HB Posts: 5,683	Updates! Yes, I know there is updates nearly every night, but I'm making alot of progress (or at least I feel that way.) Anyway, on to the pics! New core support is in place and tacked to the frame. Man, it looks so much better. No more bent up spots and things line up the way they should. This next pic was a huge problem spot for me. When I first got the car, I smashed into a tree. The tree came right in between the headlight and the grill. It bent the end of the framerail and it really was a pain in the arse to get it back to shape. It's not by any means perfect, but things line up how they should and thats what I wanted. Here's a pic of how it looks now, with the core support tacked up. And one last pic. Everything sits level, I love it. A tip for those who are working on changing a core support or plan on doing it in the future: Get everything as level as possible on jackstands or a lift. Also, when putting the new core support on, tack things together first, then hang the body panels and headlights and such to make sure its right. Then go back and do the spot welds. Thanks for looking! More updates to come, as usual. __________________ Engineering is a great profession. There is the satisfaction of watching a figment of the imagination emerge through the aid of science to a plan on paper. Then it moves to realisation in stone or metal or energy. Then it brings homes to men or women. Then it elevates the standard of living and adds to the comforts of life. This is the engineer's high privilege. ~Herbert Hoover

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03-10-2008, 11:34 PM	#76
LS_VTEC Posts: 2,616	Just for clarification purposes and to help you find the correct ecu.... 96-98 civic wiring harness (ecu side) will use an obd2a ecu. 99-00 civics will use an obd2b ecu. If you keep your stock engine harness, find the correct ecu or you will end up spending more money on a jumper harness.

03-14-2008, 11:21 PM	#78
Matts96HB Posts: 5,683	More progress, don't have the camera right now so pics will have to wait till tomorrow. Got the engine apart, wiring run for the gauges. Also got the interior pulled out, ready for cleaning on the carpets, new fuel pump, wiring for amplifiers. I'm really happy with how everything is going right now, I figured this would be a mess with all the things that are coming apart at once, but its going really smoothly.

03-17-2008, 01:16 AM	#80
philyphreak2127 Posts: 1,635	nice progress. I got an idea for your interior. two racing seats a mid brace, and 5 point harnesses. thats all you really need!

03-17-2008, 08:23 PM	#81
Matts96HB Posts: 5,683	I think my dad and I are going to fabricate all the braces. My dads really good at that sort of thing and he has already come up with a design for a traction bar. He thought he was making some sort of spot for me to jack it up on besides the core support, and it ended up being a traction bar.

03-18-2008, 10:23 PM	#83
philyphreak2127 Posts: 1,635	$4.16? damn you can officially put that as the first gallon of gas into this motor. But either way nice car good progress. Can't wait to see this thing finished.

03-18-2008, 10:26 PM	#84
Matts96HB Posts: 5,683	Haha yeah I may get a gallon, depending on how long it takes me to get the thing finished. If I get it done by summer it may not even get me a gallon ^.^ Anyway, well im glad there's at least one person following my thread lol.

03-18-2008, 11:00 PM	#85
SlushboxTeggy Posts: 8,413	I followed it early on and just found it again. Nice work. I need a project to take up my free time so I don't go insane.

03-19-2008, 12:34 AM	#86
Matts96HB Posts: 5,683	^ Nice Yeah, this has definately kept me out of trouble lately, I've been workin on it non stop and when I'm not working on it I'm looking for parts. Lots of little things that had to be fixed, been making lots of trips to Honda and the junkard to find stock pieces that were broken. Even got a cut off of a civic today, part of the framerail. The end of mine was all gunked up so I used some pieces to fix it. Ill post pics tomorrow.

03-20-2008, 07:49 PM	#87
Matts96HB Posts: 5,683	OEM Bearings ordered. Some body/frame work done last night, new piece ready to go on as soon as my dad and I make an extension cord for the welder. As of right now the 220 outlet is too far away from the car, the welder wont reach. As soon as thats done, its time to tack the new core support on and start aligning things. Pics tonight!

03-20-2008, 09:19 PM	#88
philyphreak2127 Posts: 1,635	I'm definately following this thread. I am excited to see the end results. I always like to see what my "piers" are building. lol hey is it true some b16 trannys have the lsd as well? I had heard it was only the type-r but someone mentioned it with a b16 tranny.

03-21-2008, 01:19 AM	#89
Matts96HB Posts: 5,683	Thanks for following . Lots of hard work going into this thing. Doin it on my own, too! My dad is there if I say "Hey, can you hold this clamp in place?" Or somethin like that, but he is too busy with other things to help me as much as he has in the past. Yes, some B16 tranny's come with factory LSD. Both cable and hydro.

03-21-2008, 09:47 AM	#91
philyphreak2127 Posts: 1,635	I was wondering about that lsd because a buddy of mine bought a civic hatch with a crv/vtec in it but it has the b16 tranny and I was telling him to replace it with one with the lsd. Which is probably better for him because whoever did the swap did not know what they were doing at all. Well dang, maybe I should do a b-series swap in my civic. hmmmm....its a thought. By the way the core support looks way better than it did to begin with!

03-21-2008, 03:16 PM	#92
Matts96HB Posts: 5,683	^ Thanks man, and the pictures really don't do it justice. The old one was simply disgusting, twisted in ways that metal should not be twisted. Anyway, yeah an LSD is something I'd definately recommend with a B-series swap.

03-22-2008, 08:15 PM	#93
philyphreak2127 Posts: 1,635	for sure he actually listened to me when it came to that so he is lookin for a type-r tranny he can go through replace all the gaskets and what not on, then he will throw it in the car when he pulls the motor to put his forged pistons, and rods, and crank in. All I know is both you guys' cars will be beasts. I still insist on rockin the sohc vtec d-series lol But yeah got any plans for boost?

03-22-2008, 11:00 PM	#94
BrutalB83 Posts: 11,226	Awesome project man! Good work!

03-23-2008, 03:14 AM	#96
Matts96HB Posts: 5,683	More updates! Tonight's focus was mocking the car up to make sure the core support was in the proper place. These pics are after several hours of grinding off tack welds and adjusting the position of the core support. It lines up nice now and I LOVE this front end. MMM FRONT MOUNT GOODNESS! Thanks for looking.

03-23-2008, 04:32 AM	#97
philyphreak2127 Posts: 1,635	wow I am dense. its says that right in your signature. lol But 300 horses in a hatch should be pretty fast. Car is looking mighty fine bro. I love that intercooler in there.

03-23-2008, 01:36 PM	#99
tonton Posts: 17	Hey Matt, why didn't you swap a k20 in there? You can up to 500whp with stock internals on those. And yea a 2.0 is always better than a 1.8.

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