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mikeyg323 · 04-06-2008, 08:17 PM

I saw a 1991 Civic hatch 5spd, with a recent engine swap to a JDM 1.6L DOHC vtec engine, which he claims to be about 170hp. Says it has new front brakes and rotors,everything is new in the engine, (t-belt, waterpump, cam seal,crank seal, clutch). CRX seats, 17in rims. However. There is some minor rear quater panel rust. He is asking $4,000 obo but I'm going to try and lower his price because he seems kinda desperate.

well there are some minor bubble marks on both rear wheels area, the hood had been repaired but it does need a paint job. The pass side clear coat has peeled off. Here are some pics:

Alright so what do you guys think the extent of the damage is? Do you guys feel that its an easy fix up? What sort of questions should I ask him? Thanks for any input!

*edit* I would sell the rims and buy some 16's

INJEN78 · 04-06-2008, 08:44 PM

itll only have around 170 hp if its the ctr b16...the car doesnt look to be worth 4k...
the damage isnt bad and shouldnt be hard atall to fix

mikeyg323 · 04-06-2008, 11:34 PM

ok thanks i will ask him if that is indeed what is under the hood

|Chaz| · 04-06-2008, 11:43 PM

That guy is nuts to want $4k for it. I would pay between $2.5-3k at the most. Those rims look really dumb on it, I'm glad you'd sell them. In my opinion 16s would be too big for it even. Personally I'd go with some 15s, but again that's just me.

BrutalB83 · 04-06-2008, 11:49 PM

Fixing rusted quarters the right way is neither easy or cheap. What really needs to happen is for the rusted metal to be cut out and new metal be welded in, and then blended, sanded, painted, obviously...

You can do a temporary fix with Bondo and sandpaper but it will probably only last one winter...

|Chaz| · 04-06-2008, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrutalB83

Fixing rusted quarters the right way is neither easy or cheap. What really needs to happen is for the rusted metal to be cut out and new metal be welded in, and then blended, sanded, painted, obviously...

You can do a temporary fix with Bondo and sandpaper but it will probably only last one winter...

That's why the car isn't worth anything close to $4k, unless of course you want a rust bucket.

drocca97 · 04-06-2008, 11:55 PM

Yeah it does Looks like a b16a possibly from an older si. Good engine but definitely not a 4k car. I'd offer 2500 tops. The actual value of that car stock is under 2k.

tunercrazed · 04-06-2008, 11:59 PM

Id tell him $1800 and walk away, thats far from a $4k car

chevguy_80 · 04-07-2008, 12:54 AM

ill tell u what i have a 91 civic si and its rusty
and of all thing im a bodyman
10 years ive been doing this and there is no greater thing that rust on a honda of this year
the best thing to do is replace
ur in the states so i dont know if this will work for u but i ordered new wheel wells for my car they were $105 a peice but from experience
its the only way to go
i fixed a 90 dx about a year ago and i ground out the rust fiberglassed the rust and in 2 month it was back
since then i have replaced the quartes on that very same car at my expence of the labor
so if u do buy that car get a quote from a body shop on how much and deduct that from what the price of the motor is
because basicaly thats what ur buying

mikeyg323 · 04-07-2008, 01:14 AM

Ok thanks guys he said it's the b16 SIR, it's from a del sol he believes, in japan.
$1800 sounds good, I would even offer $2200 because the interior is pretty nice.
I am in Canada, btw.

chevguy_80 · 04-07-2008, 01:25 AM

im from canada to so
the motor is worth $1600 from jdm souce so and its already installed
if it doesn't trow any codes
and if its what u want to spend money on then hell ya
no more then $2500
where abouts in canada?

mikeyg323 · 04-07-2008, 01:58 AM

I'm from Saskatchewan. Honda/Acura cars seem to hold their value high here for some reason. But I dont think the body work on the car listed will require much. Thats why Im excited to go see it

autox 89 dx · 04-07-2008, 02:01 AM

that things a bucket my body is better than that and i got mine for 200 bucks (blown head gasket) theres cheap efs allover and with the money for that thing you can build your own and know everything in it

mikeyg323 · 04-07-2008, 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by autox 89 dx

that things a bucket my body is better than that and i got mine for 200 bucks (blown head gasket) theres cheap efs allover and with the money for that thing you can build your own and know everything in it

Im not a mechanic or anything, I dont know how to build cars

body work is something im interested in, but i dont have the tools.

INJEN78 · 04-07-2008, 09:11 AM

dont be discouraged by everything they are telling you,the rust is an easy fix,,it takestime and patience,and as i said before its not a 4k car, people seem to think that hondas double in value,the car is worth no more than 2500

efhondakid · 04-07-2008, 09:33 AM

Yeah if that guy told me $4000 for that jalopie I would laugh in his face.

BTW INJEN whos ass is on your avatar?

formby · 04-07-2008, 09:59 AM

dont buy that for 4k.
youll never know what the previous owner skimped on until its too late

find a nice oem MPFI model then do a swap from the same generation.should be around 4k. the swap is easy to do.

shit i bought a stock, one owner 99dx hb for 3.5k in almost mint condition with ac and all.

GL

INJEN78 · 04-07-2008, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efhondakid

Yeah if that guy told me $4000 for that jalopie I would laugh in his face.

BTW INJEN whos ass is on your avatar?

lol this girl that wanted to hook up back in highschool,,we kept in touch and i got some pix

efhondakid · 04-07-2008, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INJEN78

lol this girl that wanted to hook up back in highschool,,we kept in touch and i got some pix

lol

mikeyg323 · 04-07-2008, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by formby

dont buy that for 4k.
youll never know what the previous owner skimped on until its too late

find a nice oem MPFI model then do a swap from the same generation.should be around 4k. the swap is easy to do.

shit i bought a stock, one owner 99dx hb for 3.5k in almost mint condition with ac and all.

GL

lol i wish i could find a good deal like that here. I bought a '00 cx hatch w/ 130,000km for 6.8k

91_civic_si · 04-07-2008, 02:13 PM

Is it 4000 us funds or canadian funds?

91_civic_si · 04-07-2008, 02:16 PM

Man, it has been a while since I used the currency converter. US and CA money is almost the same value.

mikeyg323 · 04-07-2008, 02:18 PM

haha ya, but to answer your question, it is Canadian funds.

04-06-2008, 08:17 PM	#1
mikeyg323 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 82 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 2	Body work? How hard is it? I saw a 1991 Civic hatch 5spd, with a recent engine swap to a JDM 1.6L DOHC vtec engine, which he claims to be about 170hp. Says it has new front brakes and rotors,everything is new in the engine, (t-belt, waterpump, cam seal,crank seal, clutch). CRX seats, 17in rims. However. There is some minor rear quater panel rust. He is asking $4,000 obo but I'm going to try and lower his price because he seems kinda desperate. well there are some minor bubble marks on both rear wheels area, the hood had been repaired but it does need a paint job. The pass side clear coat has peeled off. Here are some pics: Alright so what do you guys think the extent of the damage is? Do you guys feel that its an easy fix up? What sort of questions should I ask him? Thanks for any input! edit I would sell the rims and buy some 16's Attached Thumbnails

04-06-2008, 08:44 PM	#2
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 20 Posts: 5,095 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 127	itll only have around 170 hp if its the ctr b16...the car doesnt look to be worth 4k... the damage isnt bad and shouldnt be hard atall to fix __________________ http://hondaswap.com/auto-multi-medi...st1144603.html <my CRX R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you R.I.P Rex 8/18/08 coolest dog ever!!! GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

04-06-2008, 11:43 PM	#4
\|Chaz\| Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington Age: 18 Posts: 2,460 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 92' EG Sedan Rep Power: 83	That guy is nuts to want $4k for it. I would pay between $2.5-3k at the most. Those rims look really dumb on it, I'm glad you'd sell them. In my opinion 16s would be too big for it even. Personally I'd go with some 15s, but again that's just me. __________________ XBL Gamertag = i1Chad1i & i (space here)Chaz(space here)i

04-06-2008, 11:49 PM	#5
BrutalB83 Crusher of Noob Ambitions Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Oxford, MI Age: 25 Posts: 6,665 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 97 Integra LS Coupe Rep Power: 160	Fixing rusted quarters the right way is neither easy or cheap. What really needs to happen is for the rusted metal to be cut out and new metal be welded in, and then blended, sanded, painted, obviously... You can do a temporary fix with Bondo and sandpaper but it will probably only last one winter... __________________ If you find something I say helpful, please rep it up! Also, DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums so we can all benefit from the answers. I will NOT respond to tech-related PMs... 97 Integra LS Coupe: AEM Intake/Megan Header/Magnaflow Exhaust Tokico Shocks & Springs Megan Strut Braces & H-Brace 98-01 Conversion (Front/Rear Bumpers & "Mesh" Alloys)

04-07-2008, 09:11 AM	#15
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 20 Posts: 5,095 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 127	dont be discouraged by everything they are telling you,the rust is an easy fix,,it takestime and patience,and as i said before its not a 4k car, people seem to think that hondas double in value,the car is worth no more than 2500 __________________ http://hondaswap.com/auto-multi-medi...st1144603.html <my CRX R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you R.I.P Rex 8/18/08 coolest dog ever!!! GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap


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04-06-2008, 11:34 PM	#3
mikeyg323 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 82 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 2	ok thanks i will ask him if that is indeed what is under the hood

04-06-2008, 11:55 PM	#7
drocca97 young grasshoppa Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Florida Age: 20 Posts: 171 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1997 Honda Accord Rep Power: 14	Yeah it does Looks like a b16a possibly from an older si. Good engine but definitely not a 4k car. I'd offer 2500 tops. The actual value of that car stock is under 2k.

04-07-2008, 12:54 AM	#9
chevguy_80 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 37 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	ill tell u what i have a 91 civic si and its rusty and of all thing im a bodyman 10 years ive been doing this and there is no greater thing that rust on a honda of this year the best thing to do is replace ur in the states so i dont know if this will work for u but i ordered new wheel wells for my car they were $105 a peice but from experience its the only way to go i fixed a 90 dx about a year ago and i ground out the rust fiberglassed the rust and in 2 month it was back since then i have replaced the quartes on that very same car at my expence of the labor so if u do buy that car get a quote from a body shop on how much and deduct that from what the price of the motor is because basicaly thats what ur buying

04-07-2008, 01:14 AM	#10
mikeyg323 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 82 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 2	Ok thanks guys he said it's the b16 SIR, it's from a del sol he believes, in japan. $1800 sounds good, I would even offer $2200 because the interior is pretty nice. I am in Canada, btw.

04-07-2008, 01:25 AM	#11
chevguy_80 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 37 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	im from canada to so the motor is worth $1600 from jdm souce so and its already installed if it doesn't trow any codes and if its what u want to spend money on then hell ya no more then $2500 where abouts in canada?

04-07-2008, 01:58 AM	#12
mikeyg323 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 82 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 2	I'm from Saskatchewan. Honda/Acura cars seem to hold their value high here for some reason. But I dont think the body work on the car listed will require much. Thats why Im excited to go see it

04-07-2008, 02:01 AM	#13
autox 89 dx Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oakley Posts: 167 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 SI SOHC ZC mini me Rep Power: 4	that things a bucket my body is better than that and i got mine for 200 bucks (blown head gasket) theres cheap efs allover and with the money for that thing you can build your own and know everything in it

04-07-2008, 09:33 AM	#16
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 19 Posts: 3,671 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Toboggan Rep Power: 130	Yeah if that guy told me $4000 for that jalopie I would laugh in his face. BTW INJEN whos ass is on your avatar? __________________ Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. There is a hidden message here. Looking for a P28 and B-series turbo parts, PM me.

04-07-2008, 09:59 AM	#17
formby learning in progress Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 26 Posts: 5,714 iTrader: 4 / 100% Ride: 00' Montero sport, 99' lsv civic Rep Power: 91	dont buy that for 4k. youll never know what the previous owner skimped on until its too late find a nice oem MPFI model then do a swap from the same generation.should be around 4k. the swap is easy to do. shit i bought a stock, one owner 99dx hb for 3.5k in almost mint condition with ac and all. GL __________________ SOMETIMES IN LIFE WE ALL NEED CHANGE! http://pandora.com/

04-07-2008, 02:13 PM	#21
91_civic_si Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wasilla, Alaska Posts: 608 iTrader: 1 / 100% Rep Power: 13	Is it 4000 us funds or canadian funds?

04-07-2008, 02:16 PM	#22
91_civic_si Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wasilla, Alaska Posts: 608 iTrader: 1 / 100% Rep Power: 13	Man, it has been a while since I used the currency converter. US and CA money is almost the same value.

04-07-2008, 02:18 PM	#23
mikeyg323 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 82 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 2	haha ya, but to answer your question, it is Canadian funds.

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