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jmanpc · 08-18-2008, 01:37 AM

While I may be useless when it comes to knowing stuff about Hondas, I do know a ton about audio. I've been an addict for 5 years, and am learning something new every day. I used to work as an installer, and have done several full installs myself.

If you need sub/amp/speaker/head unit recommendations, hit me up- I always try to find the best bang for the buck.

Here are some good companies I recommend:

Subs: Fi, Audioque, Kicker, Mach 5 Audio, Sound Solutions Audio, RE Audio, Incriminator Audio, MB Quart

Amps: Kicker, Sundown, Incriminator Audio, Audioque, USAmps, Hifonics (on a budget)

Speakers: MB Quart, Pioneer, Phoenix Gold, Polk, Tang Band

Head Units: Pioneer, Clarion, Kenwood, Eclipse

LMK if I can help you in any way.

efhondakid · 08-18-2008, 02:08 AM

Ok, I have a 100watt MTX amp, it keeps melting the 30amp fuse, melting it. It will blow it, but only after it has completely melted the plastic body of the fuse. What could be the cause of this?

nootrac22 · 08-18-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by efhondakid

Ok, I have a 100watt MTX amp, it keeps melting the 30amp fuse, melting it. It will blow it, but only after it has completely melted the plastic body of the fuse. What could be the cause of this?

Heat????

phoenix19l · 08-18-2008, 09:36 AM

either one... you have a serious grounding issue and possibly a short, or you have the wrong size fuse for the voltage or amperage. you might have a 6v fuse in there when you need a 12v fuse.

efhondakid · 08-18-2008, 10:10 AM

Its a 12v 30amp fuse. My ground wire is a size or two smaller than my positive wire.

phoenix19l · 08-18-2008, 12:42 PM

theres your problem. Your ground wire is too small. It has to be able to get rid of that excess power somewhere. thus, chassis ground. If that power doesnt have anywhere to go then it will take the path of least resistance. Your fuse, perse, is the path of least resistance. It will transfer the current into heat to dissipate the power. Ultimately get an equal size ground cable.

caboose · 08-18-2008, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by phoenix19l

theres your problem. Your ground wire is too small. It has to be able to get rid of that excess power somewhere. thus, chassis ground. If that power doesnt have anywhere to go then it will take the path of least resistance. Your fuse, perse, is the path of least resistance. It will transfer the current into heat to dissipate the power. Ultimately get an equal size ground cable.

Not exactly...

I would upgrade the ground cable and see what happens.

phoenix19l · 08-18-2008, 10:09 PM

relatively close

Matts96HB · 08-18-2008, 11:33 PM

In addition to what was stated above, make sure your ground wire is relatively short. I mean, not like 16 freakin feet long. ~2-3 ft is usually a good length.

The ground should always be as big or bigger than the power wire.

phyregod · 08-18-2008, 11:37 PM

Its not "getting rid of excess power".. its completing the circuit. But yeah, they should at least be equal sizes. Too small / bad ground causes all kinds of issues.

30 amps sounds a bit high for a 100 watt amp. Even bridged to 2 ohms you should only need a 20 amp. That could be causing the excessive heat issues before blowing.

caboose · 08-19-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by phoenix19l

relatively close

Not really... the fuse isn't the path of least resistance. The small ground just ads more resistance.

Plus he isn't blowing fuses, he's melting them... meaning his amp is probably overheating.

jmanpc · 08-19-2008, 01:37 AM

Definitely make sure your power and ground wires are the correct size. I usually recommend nothing smaller than a 8awg kit for an amp that size. Make sure there are no shorts in your system, and your ground goes to solid, shiny metal (aka sand off the paint; it's an insulator)

Oh, and for the love of God, don't ever turn your gain to max. If it's not loud enough, you need a bigger amp and/or a bigger sub.

efhondakid · 08-19-2008, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by phyregod

30 amps sounds a bit high for a 100 watt amp. Even bridged to 2 ohms you should only need a 20 amp. That could be causing the excessive heat issues before blowing.

It is, Ill have to get a bigger ground, and maybe drop to a 25 or 20 amp.

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Originally Posted by jmanpc

Definitely make sure your power and ground wires are the correct size. I usually recommend nothing smaller than a 8awg kit for an amp that size. Make sure there are no shorts in your system, and your ground goes to solid, shiny metal (aka sand off the paint; it's an insulator)

Oh, and for the love of God, don't ever turn your gain to max. If it's not loud enough, you need a bigger amp and/or a bigger sub.

I know how to tune my amp (feel the bass, not hear it) I hate when I get into my friends car and they have a 1000watt amp and two 12s and it bangs and all you can hear is bass. Then they say "Why does your system sound better?"

mdpsEG · 08-19-2008, 03:01 PM

how many amps fuse is best for 1000 watts? how many for 1200?

phoenix19l · 08-19-2008, 03:39 PM

IMO, 30a-60a for 1000w. But it all depends on the current that the amp is pulling.

jmanpc · 08-19-2008, 05:08 PM

I usually fuse to about the same amount the amp is fused for. My last 1000w amp was fused at 90A, so I put a 100A fuse on it.

caboose · 08-19-2008, 05:55 PM

Hang on, are we talking about the inline fuse for the battery cable, or the fuse that actually goes into the amp.

I think that every sub that I've seen has a 20A... or maybe a 30A in there.

c-rex-beat · 08-19-2008, 07:53 PM

About what would some crossfire xt-2 12" go for? I hear they are some awesome spl woofers.

jmanpc · 08-19-2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by c-rex-beat

About what would some crossfire xt-2 12" go for? I hear they are some awesome spl woofers.

Not sure, I'm not a huge crossfire fan. Not saying they're not good subs, just never been deep into them.

If you want some awesome SPL woofers, check out the Fi Car Audio BTL, the Digital Designs 9500, the AudioQue HDC3, the RE MT, DC Audio Level 5, Mach 5 SPL12, Sundown Audio Nightshade or the Incriminator Audio Death Penalty. All are incredible woofers.

c-rex-beat · 08-20-2008, 12:22 AM

Was asking because I have one used and one brand new if anyone is interested. I am really familiar with crossfire. I had one in this crx ported box @3.15ft @48 htz doing 145.8 usaci stock. I now have a DD 9518g and doing same numbers with half the power tuned to 57 htz. I do a lot of SPL comps. It is rumored that Crossfire is now the makers of FI, well you know how all that B.S. works. And also, you forgot to mention the Atomic apocoplypse sub WITH FLAT WOUND COILS! 1 10" on 4800w 152.7dB in a crx!!!

BoostedHatch · 08-20-2008, 12:23 AM

cadence beastmaster is a badass sub to if you want a badass system go with a cadence daytona 2500 series amp with a cadence beastmaster 15. my friend hit 151 db with his in a comp.

c-rex-beat · 08-20-2008, 12:26 AM

Not doubting Cadence. My one Crossfire 12 was beat by a girl with 3-15" beast and a cadence amadeus, usaci stock 0-600. but only by 2Db

jmanpc · 08-20-2008, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by c-rex-beat

Was asking because I have one used and one brand new if anyone is interested. I am really familiar with crossfire. I had one in this crx ported box @3.15ft @48 htz doing 145.8 usaci stock. I now have a DD 9518g and doing same numbers with half the power tuned to 57 htz. I do a lot of SPL comps. It is rumored that Crossfire is now the makers of FI, well you know how all that B.S. works. And also, you forgot to mention the Atomic apocoplypse sub WITH FLAT WOUND COILS! 1 10" on 4800w 152.7dB in a crx!!!

Yeah, Rexes are crazy loud. I could totally see an Atomic doing a 152 in one. In my van, I peaked at 144.8 with a Kicker L7 15" in 4.5 @ 34 and a Lightning Audio X1.2000.1D. It was pretty sick for a daily system. I had an AudioQue HD3 and it was really loud, but I never got it on the meter. Was a lot louder to the ear.

08-18-2008, 01:37 AM	#1
jmanpc Carless Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Age: 20 Posts: 38 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Deciding... Rep Power: 0	Need audio help? Post here. While I may be useless when it comes to knowing stuff about Hondas, I do know a ton about audio. I've been an addict for 5 years, and am learning something new every day. I used to work as an installer, and have done several full installs myself. If you need sub/amp/speaker/head unit recommendations, hit me up- I always try to find the best bang for the buck. Here are some good companies I recommend: Subs: Fi, Audioque, Kicker, Mach 5 Audio, Sound Solutions Audio, RE Audio, Incriminator Audio, MB Quart Amps: Kicker, Sundown, Incriminator Audio, Audioque, USAmps, Hifonics (on a budget) Speakers: MB Quart, Pioneer, Phoenix Gold, Polk, Tang Band Head Units: Pioneer, Clarion, Kenwood, Eclipse LMK if I can help you in any way. __________________ "It's better to be pissed off than pissed on."

08-18-2008, 02:08 AM	#2
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 19 Posts: 3,412 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: `89 DX Hatch w/JDM B16 Rep Power: 110	Ok, I have a 100watt MTX amp, it keeps melting the 30amp fuse, melting it. It will blow it, but only after it has completely melted the plastic body of the fuse. What could be the cause of this? __________________ Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. Looking for a P28 and B-series turbo parts, PM me.

08-18-2008, 10:10 AM	#5
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 19 Posts: 3,412 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: `89 DX Hatch w/JDM B16 Rep Power: 110	Its a 12v 30amp fuse. My ground wire is a size or two smaller than my positive wire. __________________ Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. Looking for a P28 and B-series turbo parts, PM me.

08-18-2008, 11:33 PM	#9
Matts96HB I can't feel my face Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Spokane, WA Age: 18 Posts: 1,723 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1996 Civic, 1989 Volvo Wagon Rep Power: 61	In addition to what was stated above, make sure your ground wire is relatively short. I mean, not like 16 freakin feet long. ~2-3 ft is usually a good length. The ground should always be as big or bigger than the power wire. __________________ 1996 Civic 3dr DX - Build 1989 Volvo 760 Wagon

08-19-2008, 01:37 AM	#12
jmanpc Carless Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Age: 20 Posts: 38 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Deciding... Rep Power: 0	Definitely make sure your power and ground wires are the correct size. I usually recommend nothing smaller than a 8awg kit for an amp that size. Make sure there are no shorts in your system, and your ground goes to solid, shiny metal (aka sand off the paint; it's an insulator) Oh, and for the love of God, don't ever turn your gain to max. If it's not loud enough, you need a bigger amp and/or a bigger sub. __________________ "It's better to be pissed off than pissed on." Last edited by jmanpc; 08-19-2008 at 01:43 AM.


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08-18-2008, 09:36 AM	#4
phoenix19l Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: charleston, sc Age: 22 Posts: 26 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 honda civic R, 2001 S10 Xtreme, 1991 240sx Hatchback sr20det Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 0	either one... you have a serious grounding issue and possibly a short, or you have the wrong size fuse for the voltage or amperage. you might have a 6v fuse in there when you need a 12v fuse.

08-18-2008, 12:42 PM	#6
phoenix19l Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: charleston, sc Age: 22 Posts: 26 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 honda civic R, 2001 S10 Xtreme, 1991 240sx Hatchback sr20det Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 0	theres your problem. Your ground wire is too small. It has to be able to get rid of that excess power somewhere. thus, chassis ground. If that power doesnt have anywhere to go then it will take the path of least resistance. Your fuse, perse, is the path of least resistance. It will transfer the current into heat to dissipate the power. Ultimately get an equal size ground cable.

08-18-2008, 10:09 PM	#8
phoenix19l Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: charleston, sc Age: 22 Posts: 26 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 honda civic R, 2001 S10 Xtreme, 1991 240sx Hatchback sr20det Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 0	relatively close

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mdpsEG Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: north palm beach, FL Age: 28 Posts: 296 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: B20/vtec DC, Nissan Xterra SE, 16ft Caprice Skiff Rep Power: 11	how many amps fuse is best for 1000 watts? how many for 1200?

08-19-2008, 03:39 PM	#15
phoenix19l Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: charleston, sc Age: 22 Posts: 26 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 honda civic R, 2001 S10 Xtreme, 1991 240sx Hatchback sr20det Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 0	IMO, 30a-60a for 1000w. But it all depends on the current that the amp is pulling.

08-19-2008, 05:08 PM	#16
jmanpc Carless Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Age: 20 Posts: 38 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Deciding... Rep Power: 0	I usually fuse to about the same amount the amp is fused for. My last 1000w amp was fused at 90A, so I put a 100A fuse on it. __________________ "It's better to be pissed off than pissed on."

08-19-2008, 05:55 PM	#17
caboose I still know everything Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hamilton, MI Age: 20 Posts: 311 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 89 CRX HF, 96 Accord EX, 88 Dodge Daytona Shelbyz T-tops Rep Power: 14	Hang on, are we talking about the inline fuse for the battery cable, or the fuse that actually goes into the amp. I think that every sub that I've seen has a 20A... or maybe a 30A in there. __________________ Formerly the.original.kermit Back from the dead... twice I NEED PARTS!!! http://hondaswap.com/parts-sale-trade-wanted/wtb-1989-crx-parts-161172/#post1079066 Check out my progress... http://hondaswap.com/auto-multi-media/my-1989-crx-project-144941/

08-19-2008, 07:53 PM	#18
c-rex-beat yeah, it's a vtec. Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: tyler, TX Age: 27 Posts: 43 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 89 rex b7/a6 mini me Rep Power: 0	About what would some crossfire xt-2 12" go for? I hear they are some awesome spl woofers.

08-20-2008, 12:22 AM	#20
c-rex-beat yeah, it's a vtec. Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: tyler, TX Age: 27 Posts: 43 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 89 rex b7/a6 mini me Rep Power: 0	Was asking because I have one used and one brand new if anyone is interested. I am really familiar with crossfire. I had one in this crx ported box @3.15ft @48 htz doing 145.8 usaci stock. I now have a DD 9518g and doing same numbers with half the power tuned to 57 htz. I do a lot of SPL comps. It is rumored that Crossfire is now the makers of FI, well you know how all that B.S. works. And also, you forgot to mention the Atomic apocoplypse sub WITH FLAT WOUND COILS! 1 10" on 4800w 152.7dB in a crx!!!

08-20-2008, 12:23 AM	#21
BoostedHatch Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Age: 19 Posts: 193 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 89 EF Civic Hatch Rep Power: 2	cadence beastmaster is a badass sub to if you want a badass system go with a cadence daytona 2500 series amp with a cadence beastmaster 15. my friend hit 151 db with his in a comp.

08-20-2008, 12:26 AM	#22
c-rex-beat yeah, it's a vtec. Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: tyler, TX Age: 27 Posts: 43 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 89 rex b7/a6 mini me Rep Power: 0	Not doubting Cadence. My one Crossfire 12 was beat by a girl with 3-15" beast and a cadence amadeus, usaci stock 0-600. but only by 2Db

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