kricket3000

please people hide your wiring!

TurboRex90

I feel like a major nub, i did not know those were speakers.. mine never made sound since i bought the car so i had no idea haha.

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Haha what you think they were?

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TurboRex90

i seriouslly just thought it was just there for decoration. haha. I never bothered to mess with them.

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[quote=OGMatt;1365377] Alpine amp( 400w rms) and a massive rw 12 sub in a 50hz box.









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Nice box....fits well. Ported? Its so big....it should have a port. And that Alpine is 400watts? At what % distortion? 14.4v a that wattage? Seems 2-times too high for the size of that ALPINE.

And I agree on the wiring being hidden. Three zip-ties will do wonders too

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Its a alpine 800w peek(400rms). dont know distortion rateing and its 12v. sub is 800w peek (400 rms)

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Taco15

doesnt take much for the crx to bump. another reason i love them.

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haha not at all! when i bought my sub the guy asked whats it going in and i replied a crx. his mouth droped and said you will blow yourself to peaces. I said you watch to much fast and the furios.

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CAFROG

That amp is plenty for what you have

Distortion level is important aspect to understanding the amp abilities.

That amp....sorry to tell you....is not even close to putting out 400 clean watts (< 0.08% distortion)
Even when it was new it wasn't even close. But if it works in your car....sweet.

Linear Power make some amps that were rated at 48 watts each (over $800) and they
were about the same size as yours. Linear is way way way expensive and made mostly for
competitions. I saw a old toyota startlet with two of those 48 watt Linear amps with 8-10
batteries ran parallel with eachother and each amp running one 18" Cerwin Vega with
those metal nipples and he hit over 160dbl. Linear under rates their products for
competition reasons, So its not the size of your amp that tells me its ability...its the brand
that tells me. Not to say they're bad amps at all (sick head units) but (like most amps) its
not some big thing that comes in a small package. Many companies skew results when
claiming power abilities.

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so I'm I better off running my massive 25w rms amp?

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K2e2vin

25w rms amp? That's how much most aftermarket head units put out.

Anyways, output power isn't everything. Alpine equipment are known for very good sound quality. Sundown, Audison, etc. have "moderate" output levels; but people love them due to signal quality.

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the guy said it could power 2 12inch 400w rms subs.

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[quote=CAFROG;1366090]That amp is plenty for what you have

Distortion level is important aspect to understanding the amp abilities.

That amp....sorry to tell you....is not even close to putting out 400 clean watts (< 0.08% distortion)[quote]
So is this good?

Pioneer USA - PRS Series

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This one here would do well enough for me... fuck spending 500 bucks on something that I don't quite need as much as, say... gas? I'm comfortable with spending a lil less and getting less distortion, http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...GM-3300T?tab=B

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GlassHeadlights

LOL I have that amp. It's right next to me in my bedroom right now.

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Taco15

i have to disagree with the alpine statement. I used to love the way they look. and dont get me wrong they sound good but a high volume the distorion is horrible. the more you turn it up the more muffled it sounds.

Its not my speakers either i have JL C5 6.5 components up front with kicker 6x9 in the back. My Eclipse in my truck sounds so much better even when you turn the volume up. It gets louder not muffled.

my next CDP is prolly going to be JVC or Pioneer. they have definitly stepped up there game in the past years. Eclipse is overrated now and not as user friendly.

with the right setup even american pro will sound good....

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TurboMirage

hmm i understand where you are coming from about alpine HU's.

problem is they require GOOD power. before i had my alpines hooked up through the tiny wiring from the car harness, at high volume i experienced clipping, distortion, and mosfet kicking in to shut down the radio. the reason is that they have built in amplifiers. the older units had an amp "dongle" that sat off the radio a few inches.

once i got smart, i always ran the switched power straight to the battery using the same wire gauge as coming from the radio, not the car harness. sound quality improved tenfold.

now when i install radios for friends, i do the same. make sure it is fused properly, of course.

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DAMN. I used to DB Drag with my 13w7 and 1000/1 in crx.

I got beat by a guy with another crx and 2 10'' solarbaric L7 and 2 mmatts amp. He hit 155+

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There's s difference between SQ and SPL.

Some of the older Alpine HUs didn't have amps at all; it was just pre-amp outputs. TurboMirage's comment may explain the issue you were having. I personally run my components through another amp vs. using the internal amp.

IMO, Eclipse units are overpriced but what makes them so desirable is it allows you to tweak your system along with the higher voltage preamp outputs..

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TurboMirage

up until recently alpine had high-voltage preouts. now they no longer have the internal amplifier.

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awptickes

I had a kenwood with 5V preouts. It was nice.

Now it's lost somewhere in my house.

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Taco15

i know. Mrs Taco's car is loud but far from SPL quality. It just sucks how if you want quality sound at high volumes i have to buy a amp. I didnt have to do that with the eclipse and my subs.

Alpine HU i have is boooo

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what one do you have taco?

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Gustave's audio system sucks. The soundstage is at your feet, there's no bottom end, and no upper-midrange.

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i think its the cd 6998 i think. I have the ipod control with it. I like the way it looks but it sucks when i have to turn it up only to 23. at 24 you can tell the audible difference, like really notice it.

t eh 2 boston 10's pound but not as loud as they should becuase i cant turn up. If i turn the bass up it overpowers the highs and mids alittle.

sorry guys but i like my system to be so loud and clear that you cant tell. the type that the bass is so loud but you cant tell becae the mids and highs are just as loud and clean with no distortion. thats what i'm working on with my s-10.

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