wc123

ive got 4 10 solo x with 4 kx 2500.1

CAFROG

Do you see how it "says" 1200 watts. WTF? If you look you will se it only puts out 75 watts per channel (4 channels total) at 4ohm so thats 300 watts total...not 1200. Or it does 150X4 at 2ohm and thats 600 watts...still not 1200. It may be close to 600X2 bridged at 2ohm but thats runninng the amp hard and if you notice...it does not state that statistic.

ohm loads are like being in certain gears when driving. You can run in 4th gear at 70mph and have tons of power but we all know if we're driving down the highway...we should have it in 5th gear. 5th gear is like 4ohm and 4th gear is like 2ohm. it gets even more drastic if we're talking about 2ohm bridged vs 4ohm bridged. Amp runs hotter at lower ohm loads...it puts out more power but is working really effing hard. I run 2ohm stereo (b/c I only want one amp and it was 2 channel) but I have to sacrafice being able to adjust the fade (front to back). But I moved from 75X2 at 4ohm stereo to 150X2 at 2ohm stereo. Its split between 4 speakers so i get 75 clean watts per speaker. I have an old presicion power amp and they kick ass...hands down.

I would say you look for a JL audio amp....but its pricey and you will get true facts of watts....but its super clean watts....not some skewed statistic that makes you think you're gonna be bumpin'. Other Amps are fine too....but I say no to the Pioneer. For $500...and only 300 watts....thats like $1.66 per watt (clean watt not their stupid claim)

I, personally, don't like ANY amps made by companies that make head units. So I say no to the pioneer....its $500 and you can get many different amps for that price. A four channel is good for a few things. Its good to run mids/highs on the front channel and a sub on the rear...or to just run 4 mid-range speakers and get a seperate amp for your sub (if you so choose to)

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CAFROG

And head unit watts are the biggest skewed statistic you will come accross with car audio

They say 30 watts X4 or whateva but thats at like a distortion level that many people's ear will begin to bleed. a car with distortion is worse for your ears then a clean set up at three times the volume.

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mdpsEG

holy shit taco, my alpine head unit in my xterra is the same way... it pushes my kicker 6.5s, 6x9s and factory tweeters pretty damn loud, but i can only turn it up to 24, after that they break up and distort badly. but its still so loud that i havent bothered to add an amp for the mids/highs.

i had to use my eq and subwoofer controls and amp settings to basically kill all the bass to the surrounds and balance the sounds out with the sub.

Taco15

my headunit model was off. i looked at yesterday and now i forgot

if your looking for an amp. Alot of forums have quality amps for cheap. I actually was trying to sell my JL 1000/1 for $350 not too long ago. its just where to look. Alot of people dont care about quality as long as it makes it go boom and its cheap. When you try the real deal stuff you will see the difference.

of course you guys know i'm biased towards JL

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sleeper88

Kenwood headunit
4 Kicker 6 X 9's
Rockford Fosgate 1 farad digital Cap
Rockford Fosgate T1500-1bd
Rockford Fosgate 12' Power HX2 sub
Ported Box

Diehard battery
4 gauge wiring
100 amp breaker

At night it looks like i'm warning people about a cop sitting up the road.

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90 hatch stock b16- pulled motor and sold shell
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Taco15

its been awhile since i heard HX2 subs.

i remember drooling over a power series wheni was in HS. I had the Power BD1000 back in the day but never like the sound quality. They did slam though

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Taco15

here's mrs taco's system

Boston G-5 10inch woofers in custom box powered by a 1000/1v2.


tweeter pods from an ex model to house my JL components. The door speakers are JL C5 6.5's and rear's are kicker 6x9's.

Alpine with Ipod hook up

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Taco15

my buddies daily drive/audio demo car.

all car interoir has been redone and had 4 kicker 8's and custom fiberglass door panels. right now it looks like crap cuz the clutch pedal assembly broke and it stormed twice.

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awptickes

I don't like the jynormous wheels and the drop, it looks like a VW.

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Taco15

he's to broke to anything right now. I already told him 15's dropped look the best on a honda. the car has aftermarket shocks but i dont think its dropped

the wheel gap is really small and even though its not dropped it still scrapes...thanks to the crappy pot holes her in tally. the plan was to swap his brother's H23 in and later install the extra H22 head on it but both cars are on hold right now. We both have financial issues...he has more.

He helps me get stuff at cost and build stuff for cheap and i so far have given and installed his rear brake setup AND gave him free rent for a year at my apt complex thanks to a special we were having.

ohh and its got a really smooth Z6 in there. i have never heard a smoother running d-series other than his. very reliable and plenty of top end.

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Taco15

woot woot! almost got my audio stuff together!

i got a killer deal on a Jl 450/4 from a friend of my uncle. $200 bucks! now i just need to repaint my interior black so i can start getting my box and amp racks built.

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serrilion

Meh here's my not so New system.... in my DD of corse, we'll get to my H22 swap in a sec

CD Deck
Eclipse 3200


Speakres
Eclipse SP6500's


Kicker AMP to power Speakres

Subs
2 12" kicker Comp Subs power'd by a Eclipse 800x2 Amp


My 95 EX...
Deck
Ball Punk not so awesome Deck


Speakres being only 2 are 2 shit Sony XPLODS from walmart lmao

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awptickes

Learn to focus.

Looks good though. Now just remember to set all the crossovers properly, and setup the Head unit properly. And for the love of sweet baby jesus, don't crank the gain all the way up on the subwoofer amp. You'll have a pretty nice neutral system.

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Taco15

i got the 5100 eclipse. decent CDP but i would not get them anymore. not very user friendly,overpriced and they dont have a pause button.

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serrilion

LOL its very nice, Its all installed, I just dont have a camra, btw most of thows were with my cell phone back in the day lmao... System is about a year old now... We wound up putting the 400Watt kicker amp under my seat, power'd about 30% of the way to the speakers, and then the other AMP is 3/4 of the way split to both subs, so 600Watts to each sub, sounds clear and crisp haha... the eclipse deck I got I run my Sansa threw so I always have a pause Button

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Taco15

got bored..
waiting to be woken up and slam in my S-10


I already installed the 450/4 in the truck. wow. Its lke the amp lkicked them in the nuts and told them to start playing. 150watts going to the memphis 4x10's in the back and 75watts going to the boston 4x6 up front. I'll have more pics up later..

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D16SiHatch

nothing special here, but i mean it adds a little bump and thats all i need lol

pioneer deh-p3900mp deck



pioneer ts-w2501d4 dvc subwoofer
2500 watt max, 800 watt nominal



kenwood kac-9103d amplifier, 1800 watts peak, 900 rms at 2 ohms.

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awptickes

Much love and rep for the sub in a hatch.

I used to have a sealed 12" Blaupunkt sub with a 300W rms amp pointing directly up. That would make your chest hurt.

After that, the 8" sub, with 1200W rms amp would blow out the door and hatch seals if you turned it up too loud.

Hatches with systems ftw.

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94civicturbo

my friend has 3 mtx 10's in his hatch with a thousand watt amp, its REAL loud. i got 1 kicker 12 and 2 dual 6x9's in my truck with an alpine deck and a 1000 watt hifonics amp, its pretty loud for a truck. nothing in my prelude yet but i plan on 2 15's with an alpine deck and idk for the amp

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INJEN78

my bro has 2 12" concept subs in a ported box.stock honda tape player.4" lightning audio speakers in front and 6x9 lightning audio speakers in the rear..
a JBL amp(cant remember watts) a farad cap and the system hits soooo hard and sounds real clean...
i 4 rockford fosgate speakers and a JVC deck..i would like to put maybe a 10" in a real small box with just a 500watt amp but im not too sure yet..im all about weight saving

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94civicturbo

heres pics of mine, i just put 2 new dual 1" tweeters in today
my truck goes boom

The Dash:



and behind the seat:

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OGMatt

Just a sugestion^^^ put the sub in the middle (if you can)

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89y49rexsi

i have an eclipse head unit and pioneer speakers and a kenwood excelon amp with 2 12" sony xpold subz and a kenwood excelon 12 sub

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94civicturbo

i would but then i cant move my drivers seat back as much and then i have no room for my amp (which is huge) its under the 6x9's... but thanks for the suggestion

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