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davkupiec · 10-22-2009, 04:13 PM

hi im new to the site and new to the car also lol just bought it its a 89 crx hf with a d16z6 motor swap i have a p28 ecu with a jumper harness. Also i have a obdo stock wire harness with a obd1 distributer. I have read a ton of stuff about the wiring for this but i just cant get the car to start. I hear the main really work under my feet and also hear the fuel pump kick on. Also i am getting power to the distributer.I have checked all the grounds and they are good to but is there just a ground wire for the distributer? If any one has any idea on why i just might not be getting spark i would greatly appricate it starting to go crazy!! And im not all that great with the whole wiring thing either but do know how to do it if someone just tells me how. Thanks again

SwapShopRacing · 10-22-2009, 04:43 PM

Have you tested the distributor? If so I would start by going over the dist. wiring. Are you using the HF harness?

davkupiec · 10-22-2009, 04:49 PM

i have tried two diff distributers the one that came with the car and then i got another on from a junk yard that they had told me that it worked but who know but all i really know by testing it is that i am getting power to bothe the neg and pos on the coil aslo i know that its has brand new wires and cap on it is there another way to actually test the distributer

SwapShopRacing · 10-22-2009, 06:22 PM

Yeah you can test the igniter they tend to go out a lot, but I would think that one out of two should be good. Are you getting any cel's? Have you gone over the distrib wiring from the OBD1 conversion?

davkupiec · 10-22-2009, 08:10 PM

cels? sorry like i said im not to smark with the wiring thing and ya i went over the wiring all the colors match up besides the to white wires the one big on and the one small one i put the smaller white wire to the obd1 distributer and the bigger one to the all yellow with green stripe wire but other then that they all matched up to the old wire harness!!! but still nothing

c-rex-beat · 10-22-2009, 08:34 PM

with the dizzy, did you make a jumper harness or buy one? There is usually 2 white wires that need to be switched around. I would start with that first.

davkupiec · 10-22-2009, 08:40 PM

i had just bought the car and yes there is a jumper harness on it and i tried switching the two white wires and still nothing at all

davkupiec · 10-22-2009, 08:43 PM

also i person that i had bought it off of he said that it ran for like 10 miles then shut off but i dont know if that was true or not thats just what he said!!!

Jeef · 10-22-2009, 10:48 PM

Please post these questions about 88-91 crx's in the ef forum. You posted this in the ew forum. I moved this for you to the proper forum.

c-rex-beat · 10-22-2009, 11:55 PM

is your check engine light on?

GlassHeadlights · 10-23-2009, 01:21 AM

Possible bad ECU but not likely. I would get a Helms or Haynes manual so you can test the different dizzy parts and know what you're looking for. I've had a coil and an igniter go out on the same dizzy. I've also just had a really bad cap and rotor combo and the car wouldn't run.

davkupiec · 10-23-2009, 08:45 AM

yes the check engine light is on but dosent it usally stay on untill the car can run? and i just really think that im going to but a new dizzy off ebay they are going for 75 dollars and then if that dosent work then i deff know that its something else but if any one has a better idea then let me know thanks for the help guys i will let u know what happins

jlicrx · 10-23-2009, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davkupiec

yes the check engine light is on but dosent it usally stay on untill the car can run?

when you turn the ignition 'on', the Check Engine Light should come on for 2 seconds (fuel pump primes) and then the light should go off

davkupiec · 10-23-2009, 01:50 PM

ok then yes the check engine light stays on then

munchies91crx · 10-23-2009, 03:45 PM

if the check engine light stays on its your fuel pump.

davkupiec · 10-23-2009, 04:22 PM

but i would that cause me to not get spark when im turing the car over alo i disconected the return fuel hose off the fuel rail and a ton of gas came out

SwapShopRacing · 10-23-2009, 04:30 PM

If it's OBD1 the Jumper Harness you are using should be wired up to jump your CEL (Check Engine Light) and read the code from your dash. Or for OBD-0 the LED on you ECU will blink out the code. Anyway, you count the blinks, fast blink = 1 long blink = 10. You can find the trouble codes on the following page: Honda ECU Trouble Codes

This should help you to figure out what is going on.

RoughKnight · 10-23-2009, 07:15 PM

Identify/Fix the cels, then post back.

iluvhonda · 11-01-2009, 09:43 PM

check crank sensor also ecu might be bad check voltage from the pins that send signal from ecu to distributor also does the distrubutor have internal or external coil? if coil is external and u did not replace it it might be the issue

10-22-2009, 04:13 PM	#1
davkupiec Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	89 crx d16z6 swap no spark HELP!!!HELP!!! hi im new to the site and new to the car also lol just bought it its a 89 crx hf with a d16z6 motor swap i have a p28 ecu with a jumper harness. Also i have a obdo stock wire harness with a obd1 distributer. I have read a ton of stuff about the wiring for this but i just cant get the car to start. I hear the main really work under my feet and also hear the fuel pump kick on. Also i am getting power to the distributer.I have checked all the grounds and they are good to but is there just a ground wire for the distributer? If any one has any idea on why i just might not be getting spark i would greatly appricate it starting to go crazy!! And im not all that great with the whole wiring thing either but do know how to do it if someone just tells me how. Thanks again

10-23-2009, 01:21 AM	#11
GlassHeadlights F**k plastic. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada Age: 16 Posts: 2,720 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '91 CRX Si w/Mini-Me and '90 Civic Si Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 79	Possible bad ECU but not likely. I would get a Helms or Haynes manual so you can test the different dizzy parts and know what you're looking for. I've had a coil and an igniter go out on the same dizzy. I've also just had a really bad cap and rotor combo and the car wouldn't run. Last edited by GlassHeadlights; 10-23-2009 at 01:23 AM.

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10-22-2009, 04:43 PM	#2
SwapShopRacing HS Vendor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 650n Barranca ave #a Covina, Ca 91723 (626) 261-4052 Posts: 97 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 00 Civic, 08 Fit, 98 EK Rep Power: 6	Have you tested the distributor? If so I would start by going over the dist. wiring. Are you using the HF harness?

10-22-2009, 04:49 PM	#3
davkupiec Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	i have tried two diff distributers the one that came with the car and then i got another on from a junk yard that they had told me that it worked but who know but all i really know by testing it is that i am getting power to bothe the neg and pos on the coil aslo i know that its has brand new wires and cap on it is there another way to actually test the distributer

10-22-2009, 06:22 PM	#4
SwapShopRacing HS Vendor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 650n Barranca ave #a Covina, Ca 91723 (626) 261-4052 Posts: 97 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 00 Civic, 08 Fit, 98 EK Rep Power: 6	Yeah you can test the igniter they tend to go out a lot, but I would think that one out of two should be good. Are you getting any cel's? Have you gone over the distrib wiring from the OBD1 conversion?

10-22-2009, 08:10 PM	#5
davkupiec Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	cels? sorry like i said im not to smark with the wiring thing and ya i went over the wiring all the colors match up besides the to white wires the one big on and the one small one i put the smaller white wire to the obd1 distributer and the bigger one to the all yellow with green stripe wire but other then that they all matched up to the old wire harness!!! but still nothing

10-22-2009, 08:34 PM	#6
c-rex-beat yeah, it's a vtec. Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: tyler, TX Age: 29 Posts: 145 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 89 crx/z6 Rep Power: 5	with the dizzy, did you make a jumper harness or buy one? There is usually 2 white wires that need to be switched around. I would start with that first.

10-22-2009, 08:40 PM	#7
davkupiec Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	i had just bought the car and yes there is a jumper harness on it and i tried switching the two white wires and still nothing at all

10-22-2009, 08:43 PM	#8
davkupiec Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	also i person that i had bought it off of he said that it ran for like 10 miles then shut off but i dont know if that was true or not thats just what he said!!!

10-22-2009, 10:48 PM	#9
Jeef Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: CT Age: 30 Posts: 4,640 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 06 Chevy Silverado Rep Power: 109	Please post these questions about 88-91 crx's in the ef forum. You posted this in the ew forum. I moved this for you to the proper forum.

10-22-2009, 11:55 PM	#10
c-rex-beat yeah, it's a vtec. Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: tyler, TX Age: 29 Posts: 145 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 89 crx/z6 Rep Power: 5	is your check engine light on?

10-23-2009, 08:45 AM	#12
davkupiec Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	yes the check engine light is on but dosent it usally stay on untill the car can run? and i just really think that im going to but a new dizzy off ebay they are going for 75 dollars and then if that dosent work then i deff know that its something else but if any one has a better idea then let me know thanks for the help guys i will let u know what happins

10-23-2009, 01:50 PM	#14
davkupiec Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	ok then yes the check engine light stays on then

10-23-2009, 03:45 PM	#15
munchies91crx Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Age: 19 Posts: 28 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 2	if the check engine light stays on its your fuel pump.

10-23-2009, 04:22 PM	#16
davkupiec Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	but i would that cause me to not get spark when im turing the car over alo i disconected the return fuel hose off the fuel rail and a ton of gas came out

10-23-2009, 04:30 PM	#17
SwapShopRacing HS Vendor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: 650n Barranca ave #a Covina, Ca 91723 (626) 261-4052 Posts: 97 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 00 Civic, 08 Fit, 98 EK Rep Power: 6	If it's OBD1 the Jumper Harness you are using should be wired up to jump your CEL (Check Engine Light) and read the code from your dash. Or for OBD-0 the LED on you ECU will blink out the code. Anyway, you count the blinks, fast blink = 1 long blink = 10. You can find the trouble codes on the following page: Honda ECU Trouble Codes This should help you to figure out what is going on.

10-23-2009, 07:15 PM	#18
RoughKnight Christmas Car Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ottawa, Ont Age: 21 Posts: 565 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 EG8 D15B Rep Power: 28	Identify/Fix the cels, then post back.

11-01-2009, 09:43 PM	#19
iluvhonda Greenhorn Join Date: Nov 2009 Age: 25 Posts: 1 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	check crank sensor also ecu might be bad check voltage from the pins that send signal from ecu to distributor also does the distrubutor have internal or external coil? if coil is external and u did not replace it it might be the issue

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