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freeride205 · 09-01-2009, 05:46 PM

hey guys i'm as new as it gets on the forum.
anyway i have a 91 civic that just does not start sometimes.
Like ill be driving around town no problems at all run into a store come out and it wont start ill wait anywhere from 10-30 mins sometimes more and then it will start.

Ive heard that its the distributor cap ive checked it ..swapped it still it does it

Anyway Thx Guys

AHHVTEC · 09-01-2009, 06:05 PM

is the ecu/computer flashing any check lights

freeride205 · 09-01-2009, 06:10 PM

Nope
no lights

AHHVTEC · 09-01-2009, 06:11 PM

well, does your main relay click and fuel pump hmm when its not wanting to start

95b16coupe · 09-01-2009, 06:12 PM

check your grounds, battery cables, any wiring connections etc.

blasterman87 · 09-01-2009, 10:35 PM

sounds like a ground so me..

D16SiHatch · 09-01-2009, 11:46 PM

i'm betting its either as simple as a loose ground, or it could be your main relay.

like AHhHvtak said does the relay click and fuel pump prime when you turn the key to run.

freeride205 · 09-02-2009, 03:31 AM

if its a loose ground wouldnt it not turn over ?
It turns over..
It might be a fuel pump but i thought when a fuel pump goes, it goes.

GlassHeadlights · 09-02-2009, 04:14 AM

Next time it doesn't start try to hear if the fuel pump kicks on. I think its the main relay too. My CRX did the exact same thing and it turned out to be the relay.

Korax · 09-02-2009, 02:54 PM

It's more than likely your main relay. It will still try to turn over even if it is bad.. it just won't get fuel or spark. If you turn the car on to the on position you will hear it click and your CEL come on for a second then go off and you'll hear another click. If the CEL stays on and no clicks, bad relay.

freeride205 · 09-02-2009, 04:46 PM

wheres the fuel pump at back or front
silly questions but im quite new to hondas

freeride205 · 09-02-2009, 04:47 PM

ohh and another thing if the fuel pump doesnt go on its a main relay?
just to clarify

Korax · 09-02-2009, 04:53 PM

Umm.. in the back. If no fuel or spark then it's the relay. The pump could be bad too if it doesn't come on but it's more than likely your relay.

freeride205 · 09-02-2009, 04:56 PM

It just started after a couple mins of turning over and it smelt flooded does this eleminate the main relay or is that still a possiblity

Korax · 09-02-2009, 04:59 PM

The relay will work.. then not work.. then work.. etc, until it totally goes. I bet you had your car all closed up. Then you went outside to try to get it to start and opened the windows and the inside of the car got cooler. Does it start fine in the morning or evening?

Also, did you listen for it clicking at all when it wouldn't start? The relay is right behind the change tray. I'm sure if you tried to listen when it doesn't start you will either hear it or not.

freeride205 · 09-02-2009, 05:08 PM

yeah thats basicly what just just happend
my dad is having a hard time beliving its heat related because of where we live (northren canada) and its not that warm right now.
but it sounds like your right im gonna order that relay and see what happends
Thx alot for helping me ill get back to you when i get that switch and we will se what happends

09-01-2009, 05:46 PM	#1
freeride205 Greenhorn Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Yukon, Canada Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 Civic HB Rep Power: 0	Help .. 91 Civic hey guys i'm as new as it gets on the forum. anyway i have a 91 civic that just does not start sometimes. Like ill be driving around town no problems at all run into a store come out and it wont start ill wait anywhere from 10-30 mins sometimes more and then it will start. Ive heard that its the distributor cap ive checked it ..swapped it still it does it Anyway Thx Guys

09-01-2009, 06:12 PM	#5
95b16coupe wwtdd? Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ct Posts: 2,516 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 215	check your grounds, battery cables, any wiring connections etc. __________________ Warning: If you are reading this then this warning is for you. Every word you read of this useless fine print is another second off your life. Don't you have other things to do? Is your life so empty that you honestly can't think of a better way to spend these moments? Get out of your apartment. Meet a member of the opposite sex. Stop the excessive shopping and masturbation. Quit your job. Start a fight. Prove you're alive. If you don't claim your humanity you will become a statistic.

09-01-2009, 11:46 PM	#7
D16SiHatch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 795 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 33	i'm betting its either as simple as a loose ground, or it could be your main relay. like AHhHvtak said does the relay click and fuel pump prime when you turn the key to run. __________________ 91 Civic Si b18b1, I/H/E, 6000k HID kit, 94 teg cluster Parting mustang out to buy another civic

09-02-2009, 02:54 PM	#10
Korax Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western PA Age: 24 Posts: 692 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1990 ED DX jdm D15B dual carb;x 1991 ED DX B16A OBD0 Rep Power: 21	It's more than likely your main relay. It will still try to turn over even if it is bad.. it just won't get fuel or spark. If you turn the car on to the on position you will hear it click and your CEL come on for a second then go off and you'll hear another click. If the CEL stays on and no clicks, bad relay. __________________ PSN: Korax37

09-02-2009, 04:53 PM	#13
Korax Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western PA Age: 24 Posts: 692 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1990 ED DX jdm D15B dual carb;x 1991 ED DX B16A OBD0 Rep Power: 21	Umm.. in the back. If no fuel or spark then it's the relay. The pump could be bad too if it doesn't come on but it's more than likely your relay. __________________ PSN: Korax37


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09-01-2009, 06:05 PM	#2
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,377 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	is the ecu/computer flashing any check lights

09-01-2009, 06:10 PM	#3
freeride205 Greenhorn Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Yukon, Canada Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 Civic HB Rep Power: 0	Nope no lights

09-01-2009, 06:11 PM	#4
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,377 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	well, does your main relay click and fuel pump hmm when its not wanting to start

09-01-2009, 10:35 PM	#6
blasterman87 Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Age: 22 Posts: 340 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 5	sounds like a ground so me..

09-02-2009, 03:31 AM	#8
freeride205 Greenhorn Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Yukon, Canada Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 Civic HB Rep Power: 0	if its a loose ground wouldnt it not turn over ? It turns over.. It might be a fuel pump but i thought when a fuel pump goes, it goes.

09-02-2009, 04:46 PM	#11
freeride205 Greenhorn Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Yukon, Canada Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 Civic HB Rep Power: 0	wheres the fuel pump at back or front silly questions but im quite new to hondas

09-02-2009, 04:47 PM	#12
freeride205 Greenhorn Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Yukon, Canada Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 Civic HB Rep Power: 0	ohh and another thing if the fuel pump doesnt go on its a main relay? just to clarify

09-02-2009, 04:56 PM	#14
freeride205 Greenhorn Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Yukon, Canada Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 Civic HB Rep Power: 0	It just started after a couple mins of turning over and it smelt flooded does this eleminate the main relay or is that still a possiblity

09-02-2009, 04:59 PM	#15
Korax Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western PA Age: 24 Posts: 692 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1990 ED DX jdm D15B dual carb;x 1991 ED DX B16A OBD0 Rep Power: 21	The relay will work.. then not work.. then work.. etc, until it totally goes. I bet you had your car all closed up. Then you went outside to try to get it to start and opened the windows and the inside of the car got cooler. Does it start fine in the morning or evening? Also, did you listen for it clicking at all when it wouldn't start? The relay is right behind the change tray. I'm sure if you tried to listen when it doesn't start you will either hear it or not. __________________ PSN: Korax37

09-02-2009, 05:08 PM	#16
freeride205 Greenhorn Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Yukon, Canada Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 91 Civic HB Rep Power: 0	yeah thats basicly what just just happend my dad is having a hard time beliving its heat related because of where we live (northren canada) and its not that warm right now. but it sounds like your right im gonna order that relay and see what happends Thx alot for helping me ill get back to you when i get that switch and we will se what happends

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