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Bobby17772 · 09-30-2009, 07:34 PM

I was looking online and I came across this article D16A6 to D16Z6 Conversion..."Mini-Me"
the one thing that I'm wondering is even though I've got a d15b2 but I'm doing a mpfi swap that would give it the si dizzy and I've already got a z6 intake mani, wouldn't that kind of make it like the a6?

thanks

AHHVTEC · 09-30-2009, 07:52 PM

almost but the a6 has a bit longer stroke, the bottom end is different as well as the head its self

Bobby17772 · 09-30-2009, 08:17 PM

alright, so even if the head bolts up it doesn't mean that it would work because it wouldn't have enough compression?

AHHVTEC · 09-30-2009, 08:24 PM

nah you can put a z6 head on there and it should work fine

Bobby17772 · 09-30-2009, 09:16 PM

awesome. Thanks a lot!!

Bobby17772 · 09-30-2009, 09:40 PM

seeing that the z6 has a bore and stroke of 75 x 90 and the b2 has one of 75 x 84.5 how much would that change the compression because thats 5.5mm difference

INJEN78 · 09-30-2009, 09:50 PM

itll probably lower it a little bit..
but why dont you find a 1.6 block around ct?

Bobby17772 · 09-30-2009, 10:18 PM

idk, kind of want to work with what I got, and make it better

Bobby17772 · 09-30-2009, 10:33 PM

wow I was just looking on SolBlu's Helpful Del Sol Site and seeing that the d15b7 is pretty much the same as the b2, I used that as the block and it said that it should jack it up to 9.84:1 from 9.1:1 thats pretty good

GlassHeadlights · 09-30-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby17772

wow I was just looking on SolBlu's Helpful Del Sol Site and seeing that the d15b7 is pretty much the same as the b2, I used that as the block and it said that it should jack it up to 9.84:1 from 9.1:1 thats pretty good

If you got a block such as a D16A6 it would go right to 10:1, the D16's have bigger bearing journals than the D15's too theres no downside.

INJEN78 · 10-01-2009, 10:36 AM

word i dunno if you wanna stick with th 15 then go ahead,but i feel the 1.6 have more support

Bobby17772 · 10-01-2009, 01:31 PM

oh no the d16 defiantly has better support. But I did get some good news. I had to give me friend a ride home today but we stopped at his nephews house and he's get a 91 integra ls just sitting there, he also has an 89 integra that if I go a head gasket, a tune up, and a few little things for him, I can pretty much have the engine and tranny, and probably the axles, the bad news is that it's got a misfire in cylinder #1, but that could be anything

INJEN78 · 10-01-2009, 01:44 PM

so youll be getting what?

Bobby17772 · 10-01-2009, 01:47 PM

I still may do a half assed mini me on this engine, but I'll get the 1.8 ls engine, tranny, and maybe the axles. Just for doing a head gasket, a tune up, and maybe a few other things.

78civic · 10-01-2009, 02:35 PM

If I were you, I'd fix nephs' car, do a quick rebuild/re-ring to the LS, find some hotter cams and swap that in once you get all the parts together.
From what's said, you would have enough torque to keep you smiling even after you get to work/school.

E

INJEN78 · 10-01-2009, 03:17 PM

the ls is actually a pretty simple swap..and will give you more hp than doing the minime..get the ls and let us know if you need any help.

91civisedaner · 10-02-2009, 12:35 AM

so are you getting the 91 or the 89??? cuz the 89 would not work for your car..

INJEN78 · 10-02-2009, 09:59 AM

how wouldnt it???? its a zc

Bobby17772 · 10-02-2009, 11:51 AM

the one out of the 91

INJEN78 · 10-02-2009, 12:00 PM

is the teg a standard???if so take everything..
motor,tranny,axles,ecu,you can even take the wiring harness..only thing that wouldnt work is mounts,and shift linkage,,but you should also take the rear mount bracket..its a necessity for this swap

Bobby17772 · 10-02-2009, 12:03 PM

alright, I didn't even think of the rear mount. yeah the teg is standard. is 91 obd1 or 0?

INJEN78 · 10-02-2009, 12:59 PM

obd0...yea take everything..you might be able to sell the mounts for a little bit of cash..depending what shape..but yea..you already have the whole swap there..except the linkage and mount kit..which the linkage you can actually cut and use..and the mounts you can get ebays for less than $100 shipped from ebay

Bobby17772 · 10-02-2009, 07:07 PM

what mounts, the swap mounts, ef to b series or a different set of mounts

INJEN78 · 10-02-2009, 07:22 PM

yea ef to bseries..

91civisedaner · 10-06-2009, 06:09 PM

Off subject 89 teg-d16a1 does NOT fit ef IT does fit 84-87 civic aKa EW. The driver side mount is on the front of engine not on timming cover.The ZC was only offered in japan. ON subject nice find on the 91 teg that should be a fun ride

09-30-2009, 09:50 PM	#7
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,733 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	itll probably lower it a little bit.. but why dont you find a 1.6 block around ct? __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

10-01-2009, 10:36 AM	#11
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,733 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	word i dunno if you wanna stick with th 15 then go ahead,but i feel the 1.6 have more support __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

10-01-2009, 01:44 PM	#13
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,733 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	so youll be getting what? __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

10-01-2009, 02:35 PM	#15
78civic Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 291 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	If I were you, I'd fix nephs' car, do a quick rebuild/re-ring to the LS, find some hotter cams and swap that in once you get all the parts together. From what's said, you would have enough torque to keep you smiling even after you get to work/school. E __________________ "If you can read, thank a teacher" "If you can read it in English, thank a VET"

10-01-2009, 03:17 PM	#16
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,733 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	the ls is actually a pretty simple swap..and will give you more hp than doing the minime..get the ls and let us know if you need any help. __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap


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09-30-2009, 07:34 PM	#1
Bobby17772 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Age: 19 Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic hatch dx Rep Power: 5	mini me question I was looking online and I came across this article D16A6 to D16Z6 Conversion..."Mini-Me" the one thing that I'm wondering is even though I've got a d15b2 but I'm doing a mpfi swap that would give it the si dizzy and I've already got a z6 intake mani, wouldn't that kind of make it like the a6? thanks

09-30-2009, 07:52 PM	#2
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,378 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	almost but the a6 has a bit longer stroke, the bottom end is different as well as the head its self

09-30-2009, 08:17 PM	#3
Bobby17772 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Age: 19 Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic hatch dx Rep Power: 5	alright, so even if the head bolts up it doesn't mean that it would work because it wouldn't have enough compression?

09-30-2009, 08:24 PM	#4
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,378 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	nah you can put a z6 head on there and it should work fine

09-30-2009, 09:16 PM	#5
Bobby17772 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Age: 19 Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic hatch dx Rep Power: 5	awesome. Thanks a lot!!

09-30-2009, 09:40 PM	#6
Bobby17772 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Age: 19 Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic hatch dx Rep Power: 5	seeing that the z6 has a bore and stroke of 75 x 90 and the b2 has one of 75 x 84.5 how much would that change the compression because thats 5.5mm difference

09-30-2009, 10:18 PM	#8
Bobby17772 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Age: 19 Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic hatch dx Rep Power: 5	idk, kind of want to work with what I got, and make it better

09-30-2009, 10:33 PM	#9
Bobby17772 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Age: 19 Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic hatch dx Rep Power: 5	wow I was just looking on SolBlu's Helpful Del Sol Site and seeing that the d15b7 is pretty much the same as the b2, I used that as the block and it said that it should jack it up to 9.84:1 from 9.1:1 thats pretty good

10-01-2009, 01:31 PM	#12
Bobby17772 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Age: 19 Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic hatch dx Rep Power: 5	oh no the d16 defiantly has better support. But I did get some good news. I had to give me friend a ride home today but we stopped at his nephews house and he's get a 91 integra ls just sitting there, he also has an 89 integra that if I go a head gasket, a tune up, and a few little things for him, I can pretty much have the engine and tranny, and probably the axles, the bad news is that it's got a misfire in cylinder #1, but that could be anything

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Bobby17772 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Age: 19 Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic hatch dx Rep Power: 5	I still may do a half assed mini me on this engine, but I'll get the 1.8 ls engine, tranny, and maybe the axles. Just for doing a head gasket, a tune up, and maybe a few other things.

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91civisedaner Senior Citizen Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: oregon city or Age: 30 Posts: 116 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic sedan 1972 datsun 620 Rep Power: 3	so are you getting the 91 or the 89??? cuz the 89 would not work for your car..

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INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,733 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	how wouldnt it???? its a zc __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

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Bobby17772 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Age: 19 Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic hatch dx Rep Power: 5	the one out of the 91

10-02-2009, 12:00 PM	#20
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,733 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	is the teg a standard???if so take everything.. motor,tranny,axles,ecu,you can even take the wiring harness..only thing that wouldnt work is mounts,and shift linkage,,but you should also take the rear mount bracket..its a necessity for this swap __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

10-02-2009, 12:03 PM	#21
Bobby17772 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Age: 19 Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic hatch dx Rep Power: 5	alright, I didn't even think of the rear mount. yeah the teg is standard. is 91 obd1 or 0?

10-02-2009, 12:59 PM	#22
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,733 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	obd0...yea take everything..you might be able to sell the mounts for a little bit of cash..depending what shape..but yea..you already have the whole swap there..except the linkage and mount kit..which the linkage you can actually cut and use..and the mounts you can get ebays for less than $100 shipped from ebay __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

10-02-2009, 07:07 PM	#23
Bobby17772 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Enfield, CT Age: 19 Posts: 375 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic hatch dx Rep Power: 5	what mounts, the swap mounts, ef to b series or a different set of mounts

10-02-2009, 07:22 PM	#24
INJEN78 ¿GANGSTA GREMLIN? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: CT(860) VT(802) Age: 21 Posts: 7,733 iTrader: 5 / 100% Ride: 91 CRX si Rep Power: 214	yea ef to bseries.. __________________ R.I.P BEN LEE2/24/08 we love and miss you http://burnoutbox.activeboard.com/in...BID=127652&p=1 GOOD FAST CHEAP, you can pick only two. fast and cheap isn't good good and cheap isn't fast good and fast isn't cheap

10-06-2009, 06:09 PM	#25
91civisedaner Senior Citizen Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: oregon city or Age: 30 Posts: 116 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1991 civic sedan 1972 datsun 620 Rep Power: 3	Off subject 89 teg-d16a1 does NOT fit ef IT does fit 84-87 civic aKa EW. The driver side mount is on the front of engine not on timming cover.The ZC was only offered in japan. ON subject nice find on the 91 teg that should be a fun ride Last edited by 91civisedaner; 10-06-2009 at 06:13 PM.

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