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Aleaf.CRX · 03-31-2008, 09:53 PM

Hey, I wanted to do some simple things to keep my car working better for longer. I know changing the oil regularly and such is good, but I want some more in depth things. My car has broken down since I got it about every month from the day the last thing was fixed. I wanted to know if there was simple tests and things to make sure major things are working well. Thanks. (Sorry for being such a newb lol.)

tunercrazed · 03-31-2008, 10:08 PM

do the basics and change plugs,wires, oil filter/oil (as you know), I also suggest changing your fuel pump every 3 years

Aleaf.CRX · 03-31-2008, 10:11 PM

K, cool, thanks. I've change all the electrical things up there, including plugs, wires, dizzy, cap, battery, etc. as you probably remember my bitching about it lol. How much would a fuel pump be for my car???

tunercrazed · 03-31-2008, 10:20 PM

fuel pumps are actually kind of expensive, your looking at $150-$200

AHHVTEC · 03-31-2008, 10:22 PM

and change your timing belt every 40k miles or so. and change the fuel filters like every 3 years also

Aleaf.CRX · 03-31-2008, 10:23 PM

Yeah, I thought maybe it was around there. I'm sure mine's stock and it seems fine. Question though, if you don't change out your fuel filter, can it fuck with the idle at all?

AHHVTEC · 03-31-2008, 10:25 PM

it can but not likely, most of the time when its a bad fuel filter it will stumble when you try to pass ppl and stuff like that

tunercrazed · 03-31-2008, 10:34 PM

you'd be surprised the amount of power you can lose from a bad fuel pump

Aleaf.CRX · 03-31-2008, 10:37 PM

Well... if the fuel pump was "bad", wouldn't it stop working???

tunercrazed · 03-31-2008, 10:41 PM

not all at once no

Aleaf.CRX · 03-31-2008, 10:42 PM

How would you be able to tell when it's goin' bad???

tunercrazed · 03-31-2008, 10:46 PM

loss of mpg, loss of power, but the kicker before it goes completely bad is it will stall when given gas and what I mean is you give it gas and it takes a few seconds to engage.

Aleaf.CRX · 03-31-2008, 10:49 PM

Hmmm... what about when it cranks but has a delayed start when just starting it up normally and it's low on gas.

tunercrazed · 03-31-2008, 10:54 PM

that could be a few things, but I'd definetly advise against running a fuel injected car low on gas

Aleaf.CRX · 03-31-2008, 10:56 PM

Why's that? I try to keep the meter up when I have money...but I've been waaay broke lately. Luckily, I get paid tomorrow.

BrokenRex · 03-31-2008, 11:01 PM

its' because the fuel pump on "in tank" pumps are cooled by the fuel in the tank. when johnny-racer runs around all day at 1/4 tank, blipping the throttle at every light, bouncing off the rev limiter at every shift, his fuel pump takes a beating. the hotter the pump gets, the lower its' life expectancy.

tunercrazed · 03-31-2008, 11:02 PM

because the fuel is sucked from the tank through the pump to the engine, running the car low on fuel will cause dirt to get sucked into your fuel pump thus causing a bad fuel pump.

BrokenRex · 03-31-2008, 11:06 PM

um.... if you have dirt in your fuel tank, you've got a lot worse problems to worry about than a bad pump. I won't say it's impossible, but it's highly unlikely. Water however..... running low on fuel lets more air into your gas tank at any given time. all that air contains moisture, which condenses, turning back into water. the problem with water is that it's heavier than fuel, so it sinks to the bottom of your tank, the fuel rises to the top. all that water in there can cause corrosion in your tank, or stalling when you got very low on gas and some water got picked up by the pump, but for the most part, it's never noticeable unless you live in a VERY humid climate and the vehicle is very old. the problem like previously stated, is heat, not "dirt." the water I wouldn't worry about if i were you, everyone's got some, most never have any ill effects.

tunercrazed · 03-31-2008, 11:08 PM

well not necessarily dirt but its not uncommon for their to be debris in your fuel tank, especially when its an 89

BrokenRex · 03-31-2008, 11:11 PM

agreed, but even so, heat is the reason you don't want to run low on fuel, all the other reasons are miniscule in comparrison.

freak86 · 04-01-2008, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blanco

You can buy a Walbro 190lph fuel pump for around $90-100. You like just had the same question I did, "but, won't that be too much fuel?" Nope, that's what the fuel pressure regulator (FPR) is for.

and walbros are everywhere.

dacheat · 04-01-2008, 08:47 PM

ps i was always told fuel pumps either work or fail spectacularly. they don't halfway work. my advice on keeping your rex happy: clean out the injection system and fuel system regularly. fresh air filter every 6 months. oil at 3,000 on the dot, and use the high mileage oil. and drive it with respect and balls. lugging hondas is a bad deal.

Pvtjoker122 · 04-01-2008, 09:54 PM

wow, this actually answered a lot of questions I had, like for example I still wasn't sure how often a fuel filter needed to be changed, I figured that would be a big one, so every 3 years? I figured it would be more often than that. I think I should just shell out for a manual....except I have a hybrid, so I would need like 2 manuals. Of course I always have Hondaswap to answer my questions.

Aleaf.CRX · 04-01-2008, 09:59 PM

No, I believe he said fuel PUMP every three years.

dacheat · 04-01-2008, 09:59 PM

and it is good practice to do both filter and pump at the same time.

03-31-2008, 09:53 PM	#1
Aleaf.CRX Hates Cunts! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,025 iTrader: 0 / 0% Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 72	Regular upkeep Hey, I wanted to do some simple things to keep my car working better for longer. I know changing the oil regularly and such is good, but I want some more in depth things. My car has broken down since I got it about every month from the day the last thing was fixed. I wanted to know if there was simple tests and things to make sure major things are working well. Thanks. (Sorry for being such a newb lol.)

04-01-2008, 08:47 PM	#22
dacheat ..is grounded. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: strongbadia Posts: 3,791 iTrader: 4 / 100% Ride: '84 buick (rusted) Rep Power: 268	ps i was always told fuel pumps either work or fail spectacularly. they don't halfway work. my advice on keeping your rex happy: clean out the injection system and fuel system regularly. fresh air filter every 6 months. oil at 3,000 on the dot, and use the high mileage oil. and drive it with respect and balls. lugging hondas is a bad deal. __________________ marco....

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dacheat ..is grounded. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: strongbadia Posts: 3,791 iTrader: 4 / 100% Ride: '84 buick (rusted) Rep Power: 268	and it is good practice to do both filter and pump at the same time. __________________ marco....

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03-31-2008, 10:11 PM	#3
Aleaf.CRX Hates Cunts! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,025 iTrader: 0 / 0% Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 72	K, cool, thanks. I've change all the electrical things up there, including plugs, wires, dizzy, cap, battery, etc. as you probably remember my bitching about it lol. How much would a fuel pump be for my car???

03-31-2008, 10:22 PM	#5
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,377 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	and change your timing belt every 40k miles or so. and change the fuel filters like every 3 years also

03-31-2008, 10:23 PM	#6
Aleaf.CRX Hates Cunts! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,025 iTrader: 0 / 0% Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 72	Yeah, I thought maybe it was around there. I'm sure mine's stock and it seems fine. Question though, if you don't change out your fuel filter, can it fuck with the idle at all?

03-31-2008, 10:25 PM	#7
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,377 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	it can but not likely, most of the time when its a bad fuel filter it will stumble when you try to pass ppl and stuff like that

03-31-2008, 10:37 PM	#9
Aleaf.CRX Hates Cunts! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,025 iTrader: 0 / 0% Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 72	Well... if the fuel pump was "bad", wouldn't it stop working???

03-31-2008, 10:42 PM	#11
Aleaf.CRX Hates Cunts! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,025 iTrader: 0 / 0% Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 72	How would you be able to tell when it's goin' bad???

03-31-2008, 10:49 PM	#13
Aleaf.CRX Hates Cunts! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,025 iTrader: 0 / 0% Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 72	Hmmm... what about when it cranks but has a delayed start when just starting it up normally and it's low on gas.

03-31-2008, 10:56 PM	#15
Aleaf.CRX Hates Cunts! Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,025 iTrader: 0 / 0% Blog Entries: 2 Rep Power: 72	Why's that? I try to keep the meter up when I have money...but I've been waaay broke lately. Luckily, I get paid tomorrow.

03-31-2008, 11:01 PM	#16
BrokenRex Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Age: 26 Posts: 354 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 11	its' because the fuel pump on "in tank" pumps are cooled by the fuel in the tank. when johnny-racer runs around all day at 1/4 tank, blipping the throttle at every light, bouncing off the rev limiter at every shift, his fuel pump takes a beating. the hotter the pump gets, the lower its' life expectancy.

03-31-2008, 11:06 PM	#18
BrokenRex Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Age: 26 Posts: 354 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 11	um.... if you have dirt in your fuel tank, you've got a lot worse problems to worry about than a bad pump. I won't say it's impossible, but it's highly unlikely. Water however..... running low on fuel lets more air into your gas tank at any given time. all that air contains moisture, which condenses, turning back into water. the problem with water is that it's heavier than fuel, so it sinks to the bottom of your tank, the fuel rises to the top. all that water in there can cause corrosion in your tank, or stalling when you got very low on gas and some water got picked up by the pump, but for the most part, it's never noticeable unless you live in a VERY humid climate and the vehicle is very old. the problem like previously stated, is heat, not "dirt." the water I wouldn't worry about if i were you, everyone's got some, most never have any ill effects.

03-31-2008, 11:11 PM	#20
BrokenRex Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Age: 26 Posts: 354 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 11	agreed, but even so, heat is the reason you don't want to run low on fuel, all the other reasons are miniscule in comparrison.

04-01-2008, 09:54 PM	#23
Pvtjoker122 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 68 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 92 civic hb Rep Power: 5	wow, this actually answered a lot of questions I had, like for example I still wasn't sure how often a fuel filter needed to be changed, I figured that would be a big one, so every 3 years? I figured it would be more often than that. I think I should just shell out for a manual....except I have a hybrid, so I would need like 2 manuals. Of course I always have Hondaswap to answer my questions.

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