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bubba90hatch · 09-02-2009, 03:00 PM

hey i ahve a 91 civic dx with a d16z6 swap the swap was just done i have the pre obd0 to obd1 jumper harness and now i have a problem with the car wont turn over at all. all the lights are on in the dash including the high beam indicator.hazards, and all other lights and the car wont even spin over. i know the engine is good as for the starter i have put on two and every thing is free nothing binded. If you can help i would appericate it.

Korax · 09-02-2009, 03:05 PM

Did you do your own engine harness or did you get a custom monotech harness or something along those lines along with the ecu jumper harness? I'd make sure that you have everything pluged in to their proper places and make sure all of your grounds are hooked up and clean. Any spark or fuel?

AHHVTEC · 09-02-2009, 03:05 PM

check for fire going to the starter

bubba90hatch · 09-03-2009, 12:58 PM

yes it has fire to the starter. but idn if it has any fuel or spark because the engine or starter wont even turn over wont move. because of the lighting situation with all the lights on in the dash it just wont do shit.

AHHVTEC · 09-03-2009, 01:11 PM

maybe swap out a ecu with a friend just to see if thats it

D16SiHatch · 09-03-2009, 03:54 PM

starting system is seperate from the ecu. if it has power, is grounded properly, and has a functioning ignition switch, then it should crank over just fine.

op: you should have multiple grounds to the chassis. one from the valve cover to the radiator core support area, one from the tranny to the pass. side chassis area, and one that goes into your main engine harness at the thermostat. you should have power going from battery positive, to the starter, and to the fusebox. if all thats good check to see if you're getting 12v at the trigger terminal at the starter when you have the car turned to crank.

AHHVTEC · 09-03-2009, 03:55 PM

really so if i take the ecu out of the car the motor will still turn over ?

bubba90hatch · 09-04-2009, 12:03 AM

well i have tried the ecu sitiation and thats not it i have like 3 p28's but thats not the problem.....The car when you turn on the key every light in the dash will be on including the hazards and high beam indicator and will not go out if you try and crank the car the high beam and hazards will just get like brighter. but the starter will never kick over i have tried starters and all

D16SiHatch · 09-04-2009, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHHVTEC

really so if i take the ecu out of the car the motor will still turn over ?

yep sure will

AHHVTEC · 09-04-2009, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D16SiHatch

yep sure will

this may be hard to believe but it all came back to me like a flash right as i read that lol, your correct

D16SiHatch · 09-04-2009, 01:05 AM

lol good shit

goldgreen90ef · 09-04-2009, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D16SiHatch

starting system is seperate from the ecu. if it has power, is grounded properly, and has a functioning ignition switch, then it should crank over just fine.

op: you should have multiple grounds to the chassis. one from the valve cover to the radiator core support area, one from the tranny to the pass. side chassis area, and one that goes into your main engine harness at the thermostat. you should have power going from battery positive, to the starter, and to the fusebox. if all thats good check to see if you're getting 12v at the trigger terminal at the starter when you have the car turned to crank.

when i did my swap in my ef, same thing, all lights on and no turning over. it was the ground at the thermostat, fixed it started right up...gl

bubba90hatch · 09-04-2009, 07:39 PM

so you said the same thing was the thermostat ground well on my orginal harness had two grounds on the thermostat and i ran a test light to one of them and one of the grounds have current on it idn why or what not but it was there the first time so idn. and also GOLDGREEN what did you do to fix your ground

bubba90hatch · 09-07-2009, 01:28 AM

got it goin thanks every body it was a ground situation with all the grounds and the guy that did the harness hooked up a wrong wire to the ecu ....

09-02-2009, 03:00 PM	#1
bubba90hatch Greenhorn Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	swap wont even turn over..........HELP hey i ahve a 91 civic dx with a d16z6 swap the swap was just done i have the pre obd0 to obd1 jumper harness and now i have a problem with the car wont turn over at all. all the lights are on in the dash including the high beam indicator.hazards, and all other lights and the car wont even spin over. i know the engine is good as for the starter i have put on two and every thing is free nothing binded. If you can help i would appericate it.

09-02-2009, 03:05 PM	#2
Korax Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Western PA Age: 24 Posts: 692 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1990 ED DX jdm D15B dual carb;x 1991 ED DX B16A OBD0 Rep Power: 21	Did you do your own engine harness or did you get a custom monotech harness or something along those lines along with the ecu jumper harness? I'd make sure that you have everything pluged in to their proper places and make sure all of your grounds are hooked up and clean. Any spark or fuel? __________________ PSN: Korax37

09-03-2009, 03:54 PM	#6
D16SiHatch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 795 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 33	starting system is seperate from the ecu. if it has power, is grounded properly, and has a functioning ignition switch, then it should crank over just fine. op: you should have multiple grounds to the chassis. one from the valve cover to the radiator core support area, one from the tranny to the pass. side chassis area, and one that goes into your main engine harness at the thermostat. you should have power going from battery positive, to the starter, and to the fusebox. if all thats good check to see if you're getting 12v at the trigger terminal at the starter when you have the car turned to crank. __________________ 91 Civic Si b18b1, I/H/E, 6000k HID kit, 94 teg cluster Parting mustang out to buy another civic

09-04-2009, 01:05 AM	#11
D16SiHatch Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 795 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 33	lol good shit __________________ 91 Civic Si b18b1, I/H/E, 6000k HID kit, 94 teg cluster Parting mustang out to buy another civic

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09-02-2009, 03:05 PM	#3
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,380 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	check for fire going to the starter

09-03-2009, 12:58 PM	#4
bubba90hatch Greenhorn Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	yes it has fire to the starter. but idn if it has any fuel or spark because the engine or starter wont even turn over wont move. because of the lighting situation with all the lights on in the dash it just wont do shit.

09-03-2009, 01:11 PM	#5
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,380 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	maybe swap out a ecu with a friend just to see if thats it

09-03-2009, 03:55 PM	#7
AHHVTEC Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 30 Posts: 11,380 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic,92 accord cp,88 crx hf Rep Power: 272	really so if i take the ecu out of the car the motor will still turn over ?

09-04-2009, 12:03 AM	#8
bubba90hatch Greenhorn Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	well i have tried the ecu sitiation and thats not it i have like 3 p28's but thats not the problem.....The car when you turn on the key every light in the dash will be on including the hazards and high beam indicator and will not go out if you try and crank the car the high beam and hazards will just get like brighter. but the starter will never kick over i have tried starters and all

09-04-2009, 07:39 PM	#13
bubba90hatch Greenhorn Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	so you said the same thing was the thermostat ground well on my orginal harness had two grounds on the thermostat and i ran a test light to one of them and one of the grounds have current on it idn why or what not but it was there the first time so idn. and also GOLDGREEN what did you do to fix your ground

09-07-2009, 01:28 AM	#14
bubba90hatch Greenhorn Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	got it goin thanks every body it was a ground situation with all the grounds and the guy that did the harness hooked up a wrong wire to the ecu ....

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