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EP3Hatch1987 · 10-03-2008, 02:31 PM

I'm looking to get a b-series 4 my eg but don't know which one is best.. What do you guys think?

92b16vx · 10-03-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by EP3Hatch1987

I'm looking to get a b-series 4 my eg but don't know which one is best.. What do you guys think?

The best is the one that will give you the most power that you can afford. There is no answer to that question, at least not without knowing what you want from the car, what you're going to be doing with the car, how much money you can spend, how much wrech time you want to put in, etc...

delsol88 · 10-03-2008, 07:36 PM

boost? N/A? want vtec?

EP3Hatch1987 · 10-04-2008, 01:09 AM

well I want more power then the d16z6 that's in it.. And I'm looking at b16 or b18 but not sure which one I would like cause I want more power.. And what are the prices usually?

boostin4fun · 10-04-2008, 10:25 AM

Check out www.hmotorsonline.com they sell complete swaps. They are pretty much the best in the business to buy from. Find something that is in your price range now and you can always go from there with other parts to extract more performance.

BrutalB83 · 10-04-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EP3Hatch1987

well I want more power then the d16z6 that's in it.. And I'm looking at b16 or b18 but not sure which one I would like cause I want more power.. And what are the prices usually?

Have you considered boosting your current engine? How much power are you looking for here?

EP3Hatch1987 · 10-04-2008, 07:32 PM

I'm not looking 2 boost my current engine because I'm gunna be driving the car often on the street and don't want 2 attract 2 much attention..

BrutalB83 · 10-05-2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by EP3Hatch1987

I'm not looking 2 boost my current engine because I'm gunna be driving the car often on the street and don't want 2 attract 2 much attention..

And how would that attract so much attention? There are plenty of daily-driven turbo-charged cars out there, both turbo'd from the factory and boosted with after-market parts.

Once again, how much power are you looking to make?

EP3Hatch1987 · 10-05-2008, 01:56 AM

there's not alot of boosted hondas out where I live in fact I haven't seen any except for at the track.. And the only boosted cars around here are factory srt-4 and evoz..

EP3Hatch1987 · 10-05-2008, 01:59 AM

im looking 2 make around 200 whp

eurocivic91 · 10-05-2008, 03:46 AM

So far i have a stock b20b in my 95 civic coupe. Stock it puts an LS to shame an its a torquey SOB. Maybe check that out?

BrutalB83 · 10-05-2008, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EP3Hatch1987

im looking 2 make around 200 whp

Well you're going to be hard pressed to make that on a non-boosted B-series swap. A B16 puts out 160 horses at the crank, so subtract 20% for drive-train power losses and you're looking at 128-ish wheel horsepower, and less then 100 ft/lbs torque. Making up 70 wheel horse is going to take more then just bolt-ons, you're going to need to crack open the engine and start replacing the internals.

In my opinion a boosted D16Z6 would be a better and cheaper way to get the power you want. Either that, or drop in an LS and boost it. What's your budget here?

95GSRCV · 10-05-2008, 12:50 PM

Personally I have a GSR and love it. Although Im looking for some advice for N/A power to improve performance myself. Not sure what your overall goal is (HP/TQ) but a GSR is a great platform. Of course you can always make the argument about different heads and such.
Anyone have some info on CTR cams vs. GSR cams without changing pistons?

BrutalB83 · 10-05-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 95GSRCV

Personally I have a GSR and love it. Although Im looking for some advice for N/A power to improve performance myself. Not sure what your overall goal is (HP/TQ) but a GSR is a great platform. Of course you can always make the argument about different heads and such.
Anyone have some info on CTR cams vs. GSR cams without changing pistons?

He did list his goal: 200 wheel horse. If you have a question then start your own thread please...

EP3Hatch1987 · 10-05-2008, 12:57 PM

how much was the b20b? And my budget is around 1,000.. But the thing is my d16z6 is starting 2 run like shit and I feel likes it's gunna go out on me anytime now..

eurocivic91 · 10-05-2008, 01:05 PM

Hmmm idr, i just bought the civic 2 nights ago an it had just had the b20b put in a week before that. The guy i bought it from has a turbo civic that he drag races an he's puttin out somethin like 550+whp so he an all his workers said but i guess he fucked up his trains that same week so he decided to sell the coupe to me an get a new trans an have it built to handle that power.

i got lucky the car also got a fresh paint job within the last month. looks real good.

but yeah go on hondamotorsonline.com or w/e it is, an check out a b20. ;]

BrutalB83 · 10-05-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EP3Hatch1987

how much was the b20b? And my budget is around 1,000.. But the thing is my d16z6 is starting 2 run like shit and I feel likes it's gunna go out on me anytime now..

Honestly, you're not going to be able to do much of anything for $1,000. You might be able to assemble a half-way decent turbo kit for that much. As for an engine swap though, there's not much you can do. You could maybe manage an LS or B20 swap if you shop around and find a hella good deal on one, but a B16 or GS-R purchased and installed for a grand? Not going to happen unless you have mad hookups.

I would think about maybe doing a rebuild on your Z6 and then boosting it, or, pull it out and sell it now while it still runs and then put the money towards a swap...

eurocivic91 · 10-05-2008, 01:33 PM

Yeah honestly a boosted d16z6 wouldn't be that bad. I've seen a few around that were pretty sick actually.

EP3Hatch1987 · 10-05-2008, 02:52 PM

I can do the swap myself I'm not worried bout wrench time I juss need the motor.. I know a couple people that can get swaps cheap.. I juss need to know what would be best.. Turbo does sound nice but I'm not 2 sure

HATCHET_HONDA · 10-05-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EP3Hatch1987

I'm not looking 2 boost my current engine because I'm gunna be driving the car often on the street and don't want 2 attract 2 much attention..

attract too much attention?? i dont get it.. are you building a getaway car for a bank robbery? im confused

EP3Hatch1987 · 10-05-2008, 07:37 PM

Iam a racer.. And I lime 2 go fast

Justin66 · 10-05-2008, 08:42 PM

Dont we all. You better be a track/drag racer, street racing isnt worth the risk anymore. Especially with my near "stunt driving" charge for almost going 50km over the limit, no point.

BrutalB83 · 10-05-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EP3Hatch1987

I can do the swap myself I'm not worried bout wrench time I juss need the motor..

Not if you plan on going B-series. You'll also need a B-series transmission...

eurocivic91 · 10-05-2008, 09:35 PM

Last night my brother an I drove about a mile from our house, at midnight. He has an Integra LS it's a 96. I have a 95 coupe with a b20b swap. Both cars have brand new clutch kits an are both in great condition. It's a double laned highway, no cars insight. We lined them up an raced a few times, never saw one car the entire time. Anyways, the point of this story is, if you wanna save a little money a b20 might be around the same price range as an LS but the performance of a stock b20 compared to a stock LS is some what better. I'm going b20/Vtec, thats something you could do after the fact also..

10-03-2008, 02:31 PM	#1
EP3Hatch1987 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 EG Coupe Rep Power: 0	b-series I'm looking to get a b-series 4 my eg but don't know which one is best.. What do you guys think?

10-04-2008, 10:25 AM	#5
boostin4fun Boosted ls/vtec ohh yeah! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Omaha Age: 22 Posts: 690 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2000 Civic Si, 1995 Civic Ex auto to manual conversion Rep Power: 14	Check out www.hmotorsonline.com they sell complete swaps. They are pretty much the best in the business to buy from. Find something that is in your price range now and you can always go from there with other parts to extract more performance. __________________ I do swaps, engine builds, tuning, here in omaha. PM me for details. Do not PM me with tech questions, use the forums!! All motor ls/vtec build http://hondaswap.com/engine-building...53/#post791137 My 2000 civic si ls/vtec turbo build. http://hondaswap.com/engine-building...05/#post861900

10-05-2008, 12:50 PM	#13
95GSRCV Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 3 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Engine Personally I have a GSR and love it. Although Im looking for some advice for N/A power to improve performance myself. Not sure what your overall goal is (HP/TQ) but a GSR is a great platform. Of course you can always make the argument about different heads and such. Anyone have some info on CTR cams vs. GSR cams without changing pistons?

10-05-2008, 08:42 PM	#22
Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Peterborough, Ontario Age: 22 Posts: 996 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1990 Intergra GS/XSi Rep Power: 27	Dont we all. You better be a track/drag racer, street racing isnt worth the risk anymore. Especially with my near "stunt driving" charge for almost going 50km over the limit, no point. __________________ 90 Integra GS/ XSi - JDM B16A SiR2 w/ full exhaust & short ram - J1 Tranny - Skunk2 stage 1 cams & gears (not installed yet) - H & R lowering springs - Rear strut bar and front camber kit - HKS Hi-Power exhaust - Powersteering removed - JDM 1-piece headlights & sidemarkers - Optima RedT relocated to rear XBOX LIVE: JustinE66


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10-03-2008, 07:36 PM	#3
delsol88 Blinker Fluid Specialist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: JC,MO Posts: 232 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 delsol SI Rep Power: 6	boost? N/A? want vtec?

10-04-2008, 01:09 AM	#4
EP3Hatch1987 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 EG Coupe Rep Power: 0	well I want more power then the d16z6 that's in it.. And I'm looking at b16 or b18 but not sure which one I would like cause I want more power.. And what are the prices usually?

10-04-2008, 07:32 PM	#7
EP3Hatch1987 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 EG Coupe Rep Power: 0	I'm not looking 2 boost my current engine because I'm gunna be driving the car often on the street and don't want 2 attract 2 much attention..

10-05-2008, 01:56 AM	#9
EP3Hatch1987 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 EG Coupe Rep Power: 0	there's not alot of boosted hondas out where I live in fact I haven't seen any except for at the track.. And the only boosted cars around here are factory srt-4 and evoz..

10-05-2008, 01:59 AM	#10
EP3Hatch1987 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 EG Coupe Rep Power: 0	im looking 2 make around 200 whp

10-05-2008, 03:46 AM	#11
eurocivic91 I <3 HS ;) Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 21 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 98 Audi A4 Quattro, b20b EG Coupe, 91 Si hatch. Rep Power: 0	So far i have a stock b20b in my 95 civic coupe. Stock it puts an LS to shame an its a torquey SOB. Maybe check that out?

10-05-2008, 12:57 PM	#15
EP3Hatch1987 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 EG Coupe Rep Power: 0	how much was the b20b? And my budget is around 1,000.. But the thing is my d16z6 is starting 2 run like shit and I feel likes it's gunna go out on me anytime now..

10-05-2008, 01:05 PM	#16
eurocivic91 I <3 HS ;) Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 21 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 98 Audi A4 Quattro, b20b EG Coupe, 91 Si hatch. Rep Power: 0	Hmmm idr, i just bought the civic 2 nights ago an it had just had the b20b put in a week before that. The guy i bought it from has a turbo civic that he drag races an he's puttin out somethin like 550+whp so he an all his workers said but i guess he fucked up his trains that same week so he decided to sell the coupe to me an get a new trans an have it built to handle that power. i got lucky the car also got a fresh paint job within the last month. looks real good. but yeah go on hondamotorsonline.com or w/e it is, an check out a b20. ;]

10-05-2008, 01:33 PM	#18
eurocivic91 I <3 HS ;) Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 21 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 98 Audi A4 Quattro, b20b EG Coupe, 91 Si hatch. Rep Power: 0	Yeah honestly a boosted d16z6 wouldn't be that bad. I've seen a few around that were pretty sick actually.

10-05-2008, 02:52 PM	#19
EP3Hatch1987 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 EG Coupe Rep Power: 0	I can do the swap myself I'm not worried bout wrench time I juss need the motor.. I know a couple people that can get swaps cheap.. I juss need to know what would be best.. Turbo does sound nice but I'm not 2 sure

10-05-2008, 07:37 PM	#21
EP3Hatch1987 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 34 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 EG Coupe Rep Power: 0	Iam a racer.. And I lime 2 go fast

10-05-2008, 09:35 PM	#24
eurocivic91 I <3 HS ;) Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 21 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 98 Audi A4 Quattro, b20b EG Coupe, 91 Si hatch. Rep Power: 0	Last night my brother an I drove about a mile from our house, at midnight. He has an Integra LS it's a 96. I have a 95 coupe with a b20b swap. Both cars have brand new clutch kits an are both in great condition. It's a double laned highway, no cars insight. We lined them up an raced a few times, never saw one car the entire time. Anyways, the point of this story is, if you wanna save a little money a b20 might be around the same price range as an LS but the performance of a stock b20 compared to a stock LS is some what better. I'm going b20/Vtec, thats something you could do after the fact also..