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efhondakid · 09-24-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Flippinjig

EFHONDAKID, you say I need to get the P28 chipped (I don't really understand what chipped means or how to do it/get it done)? Can I use the P07 with Z1 motor and head? When I put the Z6 head on the Z1 what ECU to use then.

The P28 will be used with the Z6 head, you have to use the ECU that goes with the head. If you use the Z1 head you need to use the Z1 ECU, if you use the Z6 head use the Z6 ECU.

Flippinjig · 09-24-2008, 09:36 PM

The light bulb is starting to come on but it is still dim. Both motors are OBD-1 MPFI. Is that the type of wiring?

efhondakid · 09-25-2008, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Flippinjig

The light bulb is starting to come on but it is still dim. Both motors are OBD-1 MPFI. Is that the type of wiring?

OBD stands for On Board Diagnostics. 88-91 is OBD0, 92-95 is OBDI, 96-on is OBDII. And yes it does have a lot to do with the wiring.

Flippinjig · 09-25-2008, 02:08 AM

Have you seen the Honda Swap book they sell at Autozone???

efhondakid · 09-25-2008, 02:16 AM

This one?

I used this site and book while doing my swap and the info in both made it go very smoothly.

Flippinjig · 09-25-2008, 02:53 AM

Well I do believe that's it. Does it tell about the different transmissions too? Both my Z6 and Z1 transmissions have bar code stickers on them. They both say S20 with a series of other numbers that are different. Are those other numbers serial numbers?

cjvictoria · 09-25-2008, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by efhondakid

This one?

I used this site and book while doing my swap and the info in both made it go very smoothly.

haahaaa thats it! i knew it was gonna show up on this thread!

thats a sick lookin engine too
block and tranny all gold and shit wow its sexy

Flippinjig · 09-26-2008, 02:34 PM

I twisted off a 3/8 ratchet trying to get the head bolts out. Wow, should they be that tight???

AHHVTEC · 09-26-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Flippinjig

I twisted off a 3/8 ratchet trying to get the head bolts out. Wow, should they be that tight???

i would think not

Flippinjig · 09-26-2008, 02:45 PM

I'm stepping up to 1/2. They are going to come out one way or another. What would make them so tight???

AHHVTEC · 09-26-2008, 03:15 PM

rust/corrosion

BrutalB83 · 09-26-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cjvictoria

isnt therre a new adapter that can be used to mat a b series motor to a d tran?? or is it the other way around?/

Yes, there is. Although honestly, I don't see the point. For the price of the adaptor plate you could just buy a B-series transmission, which is a no-fabrication bolt-in upgrade for any 88-00 Civic...

frodotoolbox · 09-27-2008, 10:41 AM

stock intake is the little baby plastic one with the resinator box in the frot bumper.
stok exhaust is like 1.25 pipe all the way back to a oval muffler.
why do you ask?????

Flippinjig · 09-27-2008, 09:58 PM

I asked what "i/e" is because I have never heard of it before. Mine is an SI.

frodotoolbox · 09-28-2008, 10:10 PM

oh ok. if you tune it right and drive it like a kinda normal car you can get real good mpg. you have to do the right matainance, like i change my oil every 4k miles and i put in a can of seafoam in everytime (half gas tank half intake).

Flippinjig · 09-29-2008, 01:00 PM

I ended up putting the Z6 head and i/e (I know what i/e means now, learn something new everyday-lol) on the Z1 motor. Few minor problems:
1) I had a broken wire on top plug on passenger wheel well. IDK what this wire does but I pushed the pin out soldered in a splice and it's back together.
2)Power steering bracket and support bracket for the i/m bolt to the block and the head. It seems the distance from the holes in the block to the top of the block is a little shorter. I've got to slot the holes to make them fit.
3)My inexperience-I took the hydraulic fitting off the transmission shifter, now I have to bleed it.

Motor sounds good. First time doing this and I'm like a kid at Xmas! I can't wait to get my toy out and play with it. Bolt accessories on, safety inspection, tags and I'm on the road.

Flippinjig · 09-29-2008, 01:05 PM

One thing I failed to mention:
I seperated the motor from the tranny and pulled only the motor. What a B----. How do you keep the crank from spinning to remove the harmonic balancer???

frodotoolbox · 09-30-2008, 12:36 PM

you dont

94H_Ex · 10-10-2008, 09:23 AM

Air impact. its a 17mm socket. it'll make it so much easier on you.

Flippinjig · 10-10-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 94H_Ex

The only reason why a d15z1 gets great gas mpg, is because the intake ports are tiny, doesnt require so much fuel and air, as well as the pistons are low compression. other than that your stroke and deck heights are the same as every other 1.5 block. Im only using a z1 block for a build because its a good block, No signs of over heating, when i got it, green coolant, block surface looked brand new, new water pumps and oil pump. and i only paid 100. Even though i didnt realize till later. i didnt want the head. I'm switching the pistons from a d15b and the P08-1 head. I'm basically doing the same build as blanco. but not as clean as his is. Even though after seeing his now. I want to take that extra effort to make it look even better. yes.. im jealous of you blanco.

If i were you. Just pop the Z6 in. Unless you want to build the z6. then go ahead and put the z1 in. save gas and money, build a stroker from the z6. Im not sure if i got my numbers right. but you could find a d17 block and use the crank shaft (the main bearings are the same size) and then use 1.5 rods on the 1.7 crank and you have a stroker. of course I dont have my numbers right. I havent taken the time to check to see if that adds up right. but Either way. it'll be cheaper than a full stroker kit.

I put the Z1 in with Z6 head, intake and exhaust. Z1 exhaust manifold would not bolt up to the existing exhaust pipe because the bolt pattern is different. Kinda doggy. The stroker sounds interesting. Can you tell me more?

BrutalB83 · 10-11-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Flippinjig

I put the Z1 in with Z6 head, intake and exhaust. Z1 exhaust manifold would not bolt up to the existing exhaust pipe because the bolt pattern is different. Kinda doggy. The stroker sounds interesting. Can you tell me more?

Wait, so did you have an entire Z6, or did you just use the Z6 head from your old engine?

Flippinjig · 10-12-2008, 08:58 PM

I was going to get another Z6 but came across a Z1 before I picked up the Z6. I bolted all Z6 stuff from my car onto the Z1 block and got the car running. I went to get the Z6 but it was no good so I still have the Z1.

09-25-2008, 02:16 AM	#55
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 19 Posts: 3,382 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: `89 DX Hatch w/JDM B16 Rep Power: 107	This one? I used this site and book while doing my swap and the info in both made it go very smoothly. __________________ Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. Looking for a P28 and B-series turbo parts, PM me.

09-26-2008, 03:15 PM	#61
AHHVTEC HS TECH Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Alabama Age: 29 Posts: 8,847 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: dc5,mk4 gti,2nd gen civic, Rep Power: 164	rust/corrosion Last edited by AHHVTEC; 09-26-2008 at 03:24 PM.

09-27-2008, 10:41 AM	#63
frodotoolbox 95 del sol D16 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: sc Posts: 259 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1995 honda civic del sol stock i/e Rep Power: 5	stock intake is the little baby plastic one with the resinator box in the frot bumper. stok exhaust is like 1.25 pipe all the way back to a oval muffler. why do you ask????? __________________ rep is always accepted. 95 del sol-died 10-24-08 (but will come back to life frankenstein style) soon to be 1973 opel gt- waiting on the clutch a$$ holes havent sent it out yet. XBL Gamertag: jamietoolbox (all one word)

09-28-2008, 10:10 PM	#65
frodotoolbox 95 del sol D16 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: sc Posts: 259 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1995 honda civic del sol stock i/e Rep Power: 5	oh ok. if you tune it right and drive it like a kinda normal car you can get real good mpg. you have to do the right matainance, like i change my oil every 4k miles and i put in a can of seafoam in everytime (half gas tank half intake). __________________ rep is always accepted. 95 del sol-died 10-24-08 (but will come back to life frankenstein style) soon to be 1973 opel gt- waiting on the clutch a$$ holes havent sent it out yet. XBL Gamertag: jamietoolbox (all one word)

09-30-2008, 12:36 PM	#68
frodotoolbox 95 del sol D16 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: sc Posts: 259 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1995 honda civic del sol stock i/e Rep Power: 5	you dont __________________ rep is always accepted. 95 del sol-died 10-24-08 (but will come back to life frankenstein style) soon to be 1973 opel gt- waiting on the clutch a$$ holes havent sent it out yet. XBL Gamertag: jamietoolbox (all one word)


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09-24-2008, 09:36 PM	#52
Flippinjig Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In the dog house usually Posts: 46 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 Del Sol, 97 Accord Rep Power: 0	The light bulb is starting to come on but it is still dim. Both motors are OBD-1 MPFI. Is that the type of wiring?

09-25-2008, 02:08 AM	#54
Flippinjig Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In the dog house usually Posts: 46 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 Del Sol, 97 Accord Rep Power: 0	Have you seen the Honda Swap book they sell at Autozone???

09-25-2008, 02:53 AM	#56
Flippinjig Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In the dog house usually Posts: 46 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 Del Sol, 97 Accord Rep Power: 0	Well I do believe that's it. Does it tell about the different transmissions too? Both my Z6 and Z1 transmissions have bar code stickers on them. They both say S20 with a series of other numbers that are different. Are those other numbers serial numbers?

09-26-2008, 02:34 PM	#58
Flippinjig Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In the dog house usually Posts: 46 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 Del Sol, 97 Accord Rep Power: 0	I twisted off a 3/8 ratchet trying to get the head bolts out. Wow, should they be that tight???

09-26-2008, 02:45 PM	#60
Flippinjig Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In the dog house usually Posts: 46 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 Del Sol, 97 Accord Rep Power: 0	I'm stepping up to 1/2. They are going to come out one way or another. What would make them so tight???

09-27-2008, 09:58 PM	#64
Flippinjig Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In the dog house usually Posts: 46 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 Del Sol, 97 Accord Rep Power: 0	I asked what "i/e" is because I have never heard of it before. Mine is an SI.

09-29-2008, 01:00 PM	#66
Flippinjig Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In the dog house usually Posts: 46 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 Del Sol, 97 Accord Rep Power: 0	I ended up putting the Z6 head and i/e (I know what i/e means now, learn something new everyday-lol) on the Z1 motor. Few minor problems: 1) I had a broken wire on top plug on passenger wheel well. IDK what this wire does but I pushed the pin out soldered in a splice and it's back together. 2)Power steering bracket and support bracket for the i/m bolt to the block and the head. It seems the distance from the holes in the block to the top of the block is a little shorter. I've got to slot the holes to make them fit. 3)My inexperience-I took the hydraulic fitting off the transmission shifter, now I have to bleed it. Motor sounds good. First time doing this and I'm like a kid at Xmas! I can't wait to get my toy out and play with it. Bolt accessories on, safety inspection, tags and I'm on the road.

09-29-2008, 01:05 PM	#67
Flippinjig Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In the dog house usually Posts: 46 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 Del Sol, 97 Accord Rep Power: 0	One thing I failed to mention: I seperated the motor from the tranny and pulled only the motor. What a B----. How do you keep the crank from spinning to remove the harmonic balancer???

10-12-2008, 08:58 PM	#72
Flippinjig Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: In the dog house usually Posts: 46 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 Del Sol, 97 Accord Rep Power: 0	I was going to get another Z6 but came across a Z1 before I picked up the Z6. I bolted all Z6 stuff from my car onto the Z1 block and got the car running. I went to get the Z6 but it was no good so I still have the Z1.

10-12-2008, 11:16 PM	#73
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