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efhondakid · 03-04-2008, 11:02 PM

Ive got a crank no start on my 94 dx sedan. There is no power going to the fuel pump. I cant hear it whine and when you are in the key on position the lights in the dash stay on. They are supposed to go off after the fuel pump builds pressure. I got a main relay from a local junkyard because I had the same problem with my EF and that fixed it. Does the EG have a seperate relay for the fuel pump or should I just go buy a new main relay that I know works.

efhondakid · 03-05-2008, 11:41 PM

No one can help me out here? I cant figure it out.

efhondakid · 03-12-2008, 06:35 PM

formby · 03-12-2008, 08:18 PM

it has a main relay and i would start by taking the one i have apart to see if the soldering is fubar

custompainter · 03-13-2008, 05:18 PM

change the coil - if the main relay isn't bad

93civicracer · 03-13-2008, 06:08 PM

Did you check all your fuses? My 93 Civic died on me while I was driving and would get crank, fuel, but just not start. Then I checked the ECU fuse and it was blown.

Sounds like the relay if you're not getting fuel, that or a faulty fuel pump.

efhondakid · 03-13-2008, 06:55 PM

I have two relays, Ive tried both and still nothing. I cant imagine both relays not working. It ran fine when I parked it for the winter. Ive checked the main fuses under both the dash and the hood, there isnt any power to the fuel pump (checked with test light) is there a fuse for the fuel pump anywhere that I dont maybe know about?

LS_VTEC · 03-13-2008, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by efhondakid

I have two relays, Ive tried both and still nothing. I cant imagine both relays not working. It ran fine when I parked it for the winter. Ive checked the main fuses under both the dash and the hood, there isnt any power to the fuel pump (checked with test light) is there a fuse for the fuel pump anywhere that I dont maybe know about?

Relays usually don't go bad often. It may be the wiring corroded or the wiring on the other end (sending unit). I would test the battery first though. Discharging battery and a blown ecu fuse caused my friends no-start. A new fuse and a jump box cured his problem and he thought he needed a new distributor. Find the problem first before you start buying parts and dishing out cash for nothing.

efhondakid · 03-23-2008, 07:32 PM

I still cant figure this thing out. Ive checked all the maxi-fuses under the hood, all the fuses under the dash, and I still dont have any power to the fuel pump. A while ago a wire to the ECU rubbed through and was shorting out, I checked that and all the wires, no problems there. The battery is fully charged, and it has gas in it, just no power to the fuel pump. It just pisses me off because it ran fine before I parked it for the winter and now it wont start.

efhondakid · 03-25-2008, 07:49 PM

LS_VTEC · 03-25-2008, 07:53 PM

How do you know there is no power to the fuel pump? Because you do not hear the pump prime when you turn the key to the start position? Get a multi-meter and test the two circuits.

efhondakid · 03-25-2008, 07:58 PM

yeah, I cant hear it pump up with key on, and I checked it with a test light in the key on postion and while cranking it over and still nothing.

LS_VTEC · 03-25-2008, 08:00 PM

What did you test?

efhondakid · 03-28-2008, 04:23 PM

The fuel pump under the backseat, not the sending unit.

dtob · 03-28-2008, 04:45 PM

Is your ecu stock or chipped?? If it is chipped you might have a loose chip in the zif socket.

Did you try another ecu?

dtob · 03-28-2008, 04:58 PM

Also how did you check your power at the pump??

Did you jump pins 4&5 together on the main relay harness then turn the key on and check for 12v? BTW Pins 4&5 should be yellow and green on both wires.

It could be a bad ground at the pump too. Pin 2 on the fuel pump connector is the ground and it is green/yellow as well. Check for continuity from the ground pin on the pump connector to a body ground.

Oh and you need a multimeter to check this stuff.

efhondakid · 03-28-2008, 04:59 PM

The car is completely stock except for I/H/E. I dont have another ECU that will work with it, I have two for my EF but those wont work. It just stumps me because the car ran fine, I parked it for winter and now it wont start. There is no fuel pressure to the rail.

03-04-2008, 11:02 PM	#1
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 20 Posts: 5,421 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89' DX Hatch w/B16 Rep Power: 221	Crank no start Ive got a crank no start on my 94 dx sedan. There is no power going to the fuel pump. I cant hear it whine and when you are in the key on position the lights in the dash stay on. They are supposed to go off after the fuel pump builds pressure. I got a main relay from a local junkyard because I had the same problem with my EF and that fixed it. Does the EG have a seperate relay for the fuel pump or should I just go buy a new main relay that I know works. __________________ ^ (dont listen) Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. There is a hidden message here. *"Motor swaps, turbo kit installs, diagnostics, minor repairs, minor fab and bodywork. Located in Akron-Canton area PM me for more details."* "In the dice game of life who gets the last roll?"

03-05-2008, 11:41 PM	#2
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 20 Posts: 5,421 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89' DX Hatch w/B16 Rep Power: 221	No one can help me out here? I cant figure it out. __________________ ^ (dont listen) Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. There is a hidden message here. *"Motor swaps, turbo kit installs, diagnostics, minor repairs, minor fab and bodywork. Located in Akron-Canton area PM me for more details."* "In the dice game of life who gets the last roll?" Last edited by efhondakid; 03-12-2008 at 06:35 PM.

03-12-2008, 06:35 PM	#3
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 20 Posts: 5,421 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89' DX Hatch w/B16 Rep Power: 221	Ttt. __________________ ^ (dont listen) Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. There is a hidden message here. *"Motor swaps, turbo kit installs, diagnostics, minor repairs, minor fab and bodywork. Located in Akron-Canton area PM me for more details."* "In the dice game of life who gets the last roll?"

03-12-2008, 08:18 PM	#4
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03-13-2008, 05:18 PM	#5
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03-13-2008, 06:55 PM	#7
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 20 Posts: 5,421 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89' DX Hatch w/B16 Rep Power: 221	I have two relays, Ive tried both and still nothing. I cant imagine both relays not working. It ran fine when I parked it for the winter. Ive checked the main fuses under both the dash and the hood, there isnt any power to the fuel pump (checked with test light) is there a fuse for the fuel pump anywhere that I dont maybe know about? __________________ ^ (dont listen) Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. There is a hidden message here. *"Motor swaps, turbo kit installs, diagnostics, minor repairs, minor fab and bodywork. Located in Akron-Canton area PM me for more details."* "In the dice game of life who gets the last roll?"

03-23-2008, 07:32 PM	#9
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 20 Posts: 5,421 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89' DX Hatch w/B16 Rep Power: 221	I still cant figure this thing out. Ive checked all the maxi-fuses under the hood, all the fuses under the dash, and I still dont have any power to the fuel pump. A while ago a wire to the ECU rubbed through and was shorting out, I checked that and all the wires, no problems there. The battery is fully charged, and it has gas in it, just no power to the fuel pump. It just pisses me off because it ran fine before I parked it for the winter and now it wont start. __________________ ^ (dont listen) Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. There is a hidden message here. *"Motor swaps, turbo kit installs, diagnostics, minor repairs, minor fab and bodywork. Located in Akron-Canton area PM me for more details."* "In the dice game of life who gets the last roll?"

03-25-2008, 07:49 PM	#10
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 20 Posts: 5,421 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89' DX Hatch w/B16 Rep Power: 221	ttt. __________________ ^ (dont listen) Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. There is a hidden message here. *"Motor swaps, turbo kit installs, diagnostics, minor repairs, minor fab and bodywork. Located in Akron-Canton area PM me for more details."* "In the dice game of life who gets the last roll?"

03-25-2008, 07:53 PM	#11
LS_VTEC you get the BRAKE Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 2,617 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 99 YZF-R6 Rep Power: 43	How do you know there is no power to the fuel pump? Because you do not hear the pump prime when you turn the key to the start position? Get a multi-meter and test the two circuits. __________________ eg hatch (jdm b16) sold 1999 Yamaha YZF R6 (modded) http://hondaswap.com/engine-building...ow-pics-102486 sold

03-25-2008, 07:58 PM	#12
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 20 Posts: 5,421 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89' DX Hatch w/B16 Rep Power: 221	yeah, I cant hear it pump up with key on, and I checked it with a test light in the key on postion and while cranking it over and still nothing. __________________ ^ (dont listen) Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. There is a hidden message here. *"Motor swaps, turbo kit installs, diagnostics, minor repairs, minor fab and bodywork. Located in Akron-Canton area PM me for more details."* "In the dice game of life who gets the last roll?"

03-25-2008, 08:00 PM	#13
LS_VTEC you get the BRAKE Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 2,617 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 99 YZF-R6 Rep Power: 43	What did you test? __________________ eg hatch (jdm b16) sold 1999 Yamaha YZF R6 (modded) http://hondaswap.com/engine-building...ow-pics-102486 sold

03-28-2008, 04:23 PM	#14
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 20 Posts: 5,421 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89' DX Hatch w/B16 Rep Power: 221	The fuel pump under the backseat, not the sending unit. __________________ ^ (dont listen) Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. There is a hidden message here. *"Motor swaps, turbo kit installs, diagnostics, minor repairs, minor fab and bodywork. Located in Akron-Canton area PM me for more details."* "In the dice game of life who gets the last roll?"

03-28-2008, 04:45 PM	#15
dtob Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 578 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 11	Is your ecu stock or chipped?? If it is chipped you might have a loose chip in the zif socket. Did you try another ecu?

03-28-2008, 04:58 PM	#16
dtob Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 578 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 11	Also how did you check your power at the pump?? Did you jump pins 4&5 together on the main relay harness then turn the key on and check for 12v? BTW Pins 4&5 should be yellow and green on both wires. It could be a bad ground at the pump too. Pin 2 on the fuel pump connector is the ground and it is green/yellow as well. Check for continuity from the ground pin on the pump connector to a body ground. Oh and you need a multimeter to check this stuff.

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efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 20 Posts: 5,421 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89' DX Hatch w/B16 Rep Power: 221	The car is completely stock except for I/H/E. I dont have another ECU that will work with it, I have two for my EF but those wont work. It just stumps me because the car ran fine, I parked it for winter and now it wont start. There is no fuel pressure to the rail. __________________ ^ (dont listen) Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. There is a hidden message here. *"Motor swaps, turbo kit installs, diagnostics, minor repairs, minor fab and bodywork. Located in Akron-Canton area PM me for more details."* "In the dice game of life who gets the last roll?"

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