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Delsol94 · 10-17-2009, 04:25 PM

i heard that to get a few more hp out of my d16z6 that i could bolt a d16y8 intake manifold because it flows better and a b series throttle body because its 60mm as aposed to 57. is this true?

Calesta · 10-17-2009, 04:53 PM

Yes, but not by much. It's probably not worth your time to adapt the Y8 manifold when there are other easier things to do- like add a header. I think you said you had an intake and exhaust in the other thread, right?

Delsol94 · 10-17-2009, 04:59 PM

ive done pretty much all i can do before internals or forced induction, i got cold air intake, header, exhaust, chipped ecu, any tricks left ?

Calesta · 10-17-2009, 05:04 PM

Custom tune. Run uberdata and tune the car well for premium gas. You'd be surprised how much extra power you can get with a proper dyno and street tune, especially considering that your engine's original fuel map was for 87 octane and not 91 or 93. The chipped program that you're running isn't going to be ideal for your mix of parts or your area's climate anyway.

If you go with internals or forced induction, you'll have to custom tune your car anyway, so you might as well start now.

Oh- you might want to look into an aftermarket cam for your car. They're relatively easy to install, and can net pretty significant power gains depending on how aggressive you go. Zex and Crower make pretty good ones.

Delsol94 · 10-17-2009, 05:10 PM

yea but a cam for a d series sems real expensive for relative gains ive done a little research tho, but ill look into the additional tuning, i usually run 93 octane but wasnt aware of the factor basemap being based on the fuel

serrilion · 10-17-2009, 09:30 PM

Cam gears are nice, aem and unorthodox racing make some nice cheap 1's worth some money... Also you could try diffrent spark plugs and wires, i've seen some HP gain with them, another thing is try an underdrive pully... just some ideas as well... total u mite pick up 10 WHP if that

Delsol94 · 10-18-2009, 04:50 PM

k ill look into that thanks

Calesta · 10-19-2009, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delsol94

yea but a cam for a d series sems real expensive for relative gains ive done a little research tho, but ill look into the additional tuning, i usually run 93 octane but wasnt aware of the factor basemap being based on the fuel

Cheaper than a good catback exhaust... and higher gains too.

If you're not running a fuel/timing map built for 93 octane gas, then you're just wasting your money at the pump.

ivtec93 · 10-21-2009, 08:15 PM

Where do you get these fuel/timing maps? and how do they work?

Calesta · 10-26-2009, 01:41 AM

You make them yourself. They're what your ECU uses to control your engine.

ivtec93 · 10-26-2009, 12:27 PM

been lookin how to make these and cant find any good info on them. most places have the info for street bikes but not on cars. any idea how to make'em myself?

Calesta · 10-26-2009, 05:16 PM

Read up on the forums.

1. get an ECU setup you can tune
2. go tune the car

Those are the steps- performing them takes a LOT of practice.

10-17-2009, 04:25 PM	#1
Delsol94 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Boonsboro Maryland Age: 19 Posts: 134 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 Del Sol zc Rep Power: 3	d16 hp question i heard that to get a few more hp out of my d16z6 that i could bolt a d16y8 intake manifold because it flows better and a b series throttle body because its 60mm as aposed to 57. is this true?

10-17-2009, 04:53 PM	#2
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	Yes, but not by much. It's probably not worth your time to adapt the Y8 manifold when there are other easier things to do- like add a header. I think you said you had an intake and exhaust in the other thread, right? __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

10-17-2009, 05:04 PM	#4
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	Custom tune. Run uberdata and tune the car well for premium gas. You'd be surprised how much extra power you can get with a proper dyno and street tune, especially considering that your engine's original fuel map was for 87 octane and not 91 or 93. The chipped program that you're running isn't going to be ideal for your mix of parts or your area's climate anyway. If you go with internals or forced induction, you'll have to custom tune your car anyway, so you might as well start now. Oh- you might want to look into an aftermarket cam for your car. They're relatively easy to install, and can net pretty significant power gains depending on how aggressive you go. Zex and Crower make pretty good ones. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

10-17-2009, 09:30 PM	#6
serrilion In my own little world! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vermont Age: 22 Posts: 1,109 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 DX w D15B Rep Power: 42	Cam gears are nice, aem and unorthodox racing make some nice cheap 1's worth some money... Also you could try diffrent spark plugs and wires, i've seen some HP gain with them, another thing is try an underdrive pully... just some ideas as well... total u mite pick up 10 WHP if that __________________ yea so a guy told me, "I bet I get laid twice as much as you," so I said, "Two times zero is still equal to zero," totally awesome. Well, a penny saved is worth two in the bush, isn't it? And don't cross the road if you can't get out of the kitchen.

10-26-2009, 01:41 AM	#10
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	You make them yourself. They're what your ECU uses to control your engine. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688


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10-17-2009, 04:59 PM	#3
Delsol94 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Boonsboro Maryland Age: 19 Posts: 134 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 Del Sol zc Rep Power: 3	ive done pretty much all i can do before internals or forced induction, i got cold air intake, header, exhaust, chipped ecu, any tricks left ?

10-17-2009, 05:10 PM	#5
Delsol94 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Boonsboro Maryland Age: 19 Posts: 134 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 Del Sol zc Rep Power: 3	yea but a cam for a d series sems real expensive for relative gains ive done a little research tho, but ill look into the additional tuning, i usually run 93 octane but wasnt aware of the factor basemap being based on the fuel

10-18-2009, 04:50 PM	#7
Delsol94 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Boonsboro Maryland Age: 19 Posts: 134 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 94 Del Sol zc Rep Power: 3	k ill look into that thanks

10-21-2009, 08:15 PM	#9
ivtec93 Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2009 Age: 23 Posts: 4 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Where do you get these fuel/timing maps? and how do they work?

10-26-2009, 12:27 PM	#11
ivtec93 Greenhorn Join Date: Oct 2009 Age: 23 Posts: 4 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	been lookin how to make these and cant find any good info on them. most places have the info for street bikes but not on cars. any idea how to make'em myself?

10-26-2009, 05:16 PM	#12
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	Read up on the forums. 1. get an ECU setup you can tune 2. go tune the car Those are the steps- performing them takes a LOT of practice. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

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