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Atownz05 · 10-09-2006, 05:42 AM

I noticed that if they have civic then they prefer b16a.. my question is why not get h22a or up.. they lookin for more hp. im sure they lookin for more hp.. h22a got 200... b16a got around 160.. i know h22a can fit civic.. why not h22a or other.. why pick b16a? i wanna to know..

DwnShftPrincess · 10-09-2006, 08:32 AM

b16 are an easier fit, possibly. cheaper, probably. parts easier to supply, maybe. and its probably just more practical. i'm stuck on d-series personally. i should upgrade.

Calesta · 10-09-2006, 07:55 PM

Quite a few people are actually putting in H22s over B16s these days. It's becoming more and more popular since the mount kits are cheaper, the engines are cheaper than B18Cs, and the top swap is now the K20 and K24. You need more power to hang with the big boys.

Atownz05 · 10-09-2006, 10:47 PM

i got it.. which engine u would pick for civic?

Atownz05 · 10-09-2006, 10:53 PM

k20.. dat top swap but wha about h22a sh type.. cuz h22a sh-220... k20-220.. same hp but different price..

h22a sh type- around 3000 to 4000..

k20- over 5000..

is dat why they buy b16a.. cheap price.. rite?

DwnShftPrincess · 10-10-2006, 09:10 AM

Calesta · 10-10-2006, 10:32 PM

Yes, and the B16 is one of the easiest engines to drop into an 88-00 Civic- other than another d block.

Atownz05 · 10-11-2006, 05:43 AM

i ve an idea.. when i buy b16a engine but i cld buy GSR head for b16a.. more HP.. u know what i m saying..

Good idea?

Calesta · 10-13-2006, 09:32 AM

Nope. You could spend your money much more effectively to get 2-3 more hp from a B16.

D Money · 10-25-2006, 11:00 AM

whut wud be the best engine money wise for a 95 coupe? but keep in mind hp nd like the easiest to add parts to for the ulitmate motor to be around the big boys

D Money · 10-25-2006, 11:00 AM

i got a 95 coupe rite now nd i got a b16a but its stock, havent put nothin into it yet to busy payin for skool

DwnShftPrincess · 10-25-2006, 11:43 AM

add on to the b16a that you already have. a b18C will only give you 8 more hp but a b18C5 gives you 25 more. if you can afford it, go for the C5

unlikelyhero · 10-25-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by D Money

whut wud be the best engine money wise for a 95 coupe? but keep in mind hp nd like the easiest to add parts to for the ulitmate motor to be around the big boys

It might just be me but i think it depends what you wanna do with your car. If your are going to boost i would say go with b18c1. If your going to go all motor i would personally go b18c5 or k20a but i dont know your budget. b18c5 a much easier swap though.

stogey · 10-25-2006, 03:54 PM

what is the best engine for a eg hatch money wise.

unlikelyhero · 10-25-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stogey

what is the best engine for a eg hatch money wise.

Im no guru like some of these guys here but i think it depends on your budget and what your going to do. boost or n/a. drag or everyday speeder. all that good stuff. If you are going to boost you wanna go for something with low compression so gets like a b16 or a b18c1. a good motor for people with not a lot of money is GSR block with a b16 head (poor mans type r). if you got a friend that can build for you i suggest that.

Prices arent exact
K20a goes around id say $5500
220 Hp 158Trq 11.5 Compression (JDM)
B18c5 Type R around $4500+ depending on what year you get
200Hp 134Trq 11.1 Compression(JDM)
195Hp 130Trq 10.6 Compression (USDM)

B18c1 GSR around $3000
180Hp 126Trq 10.6 Compression (JDM)
170Hp 121Trq 10.1 Compression (USDM)
B16b ek Type R around $4000
185Hp 117 Trq 10.8 Compression(JDM)
B16a (92-95) SiR II around $2400
170Hp 113Trq 10.4 Compression (JDM)
160Hp 111Trq 10.2 Compression (USDM)

RMMfan · 10-25-2006, 05:08 PM

I too have been deciding whether to put a B16A, or an H22A into my 99 LX. The H22A looks so much better on paper, with better power, and torque. However, the install into an EK's bay is more dificult than into an Accord's bay. I know that there are mount kits, so can someone list a link or good site that has them for a good price (H22A mounts for an EK chassis that is).

unlikelyhero · 10-25-2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RMMfan

I too have been deciding whether to put a B16A, or an H22A into my 99 LX. The H22A looks so much better on paper, with better power, and torque. However, the install into an EK's bay is more dificult than into an Accord's bay. I know that there are mount kits, so can someone list a link or good site that has them for a good price (H22A mounts for an EK chassis that is).

Hasport Billet Mounts

RMMfan · 10-25-2006, 05:58 PM

WOW! $600 for H series mounts in an EK! That is a decent amount of money.

unlikelyhero · 10-25-2006, 06:17 PM

yeah but its a difficult swap

RMMfan · 10-25-2006, 10:16 PM

Yes, this is what I understand. However, the power you gain from dropping an H22A over a B16A2 is great (something like 40 HP just on motor). These are the two motors I am considering. With this being my first swap, I don't want to buy and get myself into something that is too hard to do. The B16A2 is basically a drop in. However, the H22A would be much better for racing, putting more weight over the front wheels. By the way, how is the aftermarket for an H22A compared to a B16A2?

D Money · 10-25-2006, 10:31 PM

im tryna boost it nd possible a turbo, but i aint to sure bout it yet...i got a pretty good budget but cant go to far ya dig,, wen eva skool out i wana race it

EGProject · 10-25-2006, 11:23 PM

B16A head on a GSR block = Poor mans Type R.

B16A2/B18C1 swap is by far the most practical and most hassle-free swaps for most 92+ Civics. H22's tend to be on the heavy side, and usually can't rev as high as the B16's or B18C's. For all out power, an H22 is a good idea, but if you want your car to handle well, a smaller engine is better. If you have the $$ to spend, the K20 swaps are the top of the line, and will definately get your Civic to haul.

unlikelyhero · 10-26-2006, 01:07 AM

yes he knows what hes talking about. h22 is around $2000 the same as a b16a, but i often read that not only is it a difficult swap but even with a complete change over your still going to have to buy many different parts. so you would probrably end up spending more than you really intended. make sure you do your research before you go buying anything major. since this is your first swap i suggest you with a b series. personally i dont think the b16 has enough torque for me. i say save up and get a better motor or get the b16a and mod however you want.

D Money · 10-26-2006, 01:25 AM

good looks on the info nd shit, but yeah i think i will save up nd get the b18c1 or b18 c5, one of the two nd see whea ill go from thea!

RMMfan · 10-26-2006, 06:41 AM

This is true about the money spent on the parts to complete the H22A swap. The B18 from hmotorsonline (for the complete swap kit) is about 1250 more than the B16A2 complete swap. I would prob. end up spending more looking for the parts to finish the H22A swap than I would just buying the complete swap kit B18. I know that the B18/16 are easy drop-in's, and that they rev higher, but they don't produce as much torque. I will most likely end up just going with a complete B16/18 swap kit, and just dropping it in the engine bay.

10-09-2006, 05:42 AM	#1
Atownz05 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 16 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Engine For Civic I noticed that if they have civic then they prefer b16a.. my question is why not get h22a or up.. they lookin for more hp. im sure they lookin for more hp.. h22a got 200... b16a got around 160.. i know h22a can fit civic.. why not h22a or other.. why pick b16a? i wanna to know..

10-09-2006, 08:32 AM	#2
DwnShftPrincess Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Orangeburg, SC Posts: 272 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 12	b16 are an easier fit, possibly. cheaper, probably. parts easier to supply, maybe. and its probably just more practical. i'm stuck on d-series personally. i should upgrade. __________________ 127 hp = 2 rabbitts and a squirrel

10-09-2006, 07:55 PM	#3
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lufkin, TX Age: 31 Posts: 23,900 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 266	Quite a few people are actually putting in H22s over B16s these days. It's becoming more and more popular since the mount kits are cheaper, the engines are cheaper than B18Cs, and the top swap is now the K20 and K24. You need more power to hang with the big boys. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

10-10-2006, 09:10 AM	#6
DwnShftPrincess Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Orangeburg, SC Posts: 272 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 12	__________________ 127 hp = 2 rabbitts and a squirrel

10-10-2006, 10:32 PM	#7
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lufkin, TX Age: 31 Posts: 23,900 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 266	Yes, and the B16 is one of the easiest engines to drop into an 88-00 Civic- other than another d block. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688


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10-09-2006, 10:47 PM	#4
Atownz05 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 16 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	i got it.. which engine u would pick for civic?

10-09-2006, 10:53 PM	#5
Atownz05 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 16 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	k20.. dat top swap but wha about h22a sh type.. cuz h22a sh-220... k20-220.. same hp but different price.. h22a sh type- around 3000 to 4000.. k20- over 5000.. is dat why they buy b16a.. cheap price.. rite?

10-11-2006, 05:43 AM	#8
Atownz05 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 16 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	i ve an idea.. when i buy b16a engine but i cld buy GSR head for b16a.. more HP.. u know what i m saying.. Good idea? __________________ RACIN' I5 your life, isnt it?

10-13-2006, 09:32 AM	#9
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lufkin, TX Age: 31 Posts: 23,900 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 266	Nope. You could spend your money much more effectively to get 2-3 more hp from a B16. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

10-25-2006, 11:00 AM	#10
D Money Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 65 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 Civic Coupe Rep Power: 5	whut wud be the best engine money wise for a 95 coupe? but keep in mind hp nd like the easiest to add parts to for the ulitmate motor to be around the big boys

10-25-2006, 11:43 AM	#12
DwnShftPrincess Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Orangeburg, SC Posts: 272 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 12	add on to the b16a that you already have. a b18C will only give you 8 more hp but a b18C5 gives you 25 more. if you can afford it, go for the C5 __________________ 127 hp = 2 rabbitts and a squirrel

10-25-2006, 03:54 PM	#14
stogey Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: washington state Age: 19 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: honda civic Rep Power: 0	what is the best engine for a eg hatch money wise.

10-25-2006, 05:08 PM	#16
RMMfan Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 17 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	I too have been deciding whether to put a B16A, or an H22A into my 99 LX. The H22A looks so much better on paper, with better power, and torque. However, the install into an EK's bay is more dificult than into an Accord's bay. I know that there are mount kits, so can someone list a link or good site that has them for a good price (H22A mounts for an EK chassis that is).

10-25-2006, 05:58 PM	#18
RMMfan Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 17 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	WOW! $600 for H series mounts in an EK! That is a decent amount of money.

10-25-2006, 06:17 PM	#19
unlikelyhero Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 40 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	yeah but its a difficult swap

10-25-2006, 10:16 PM	#20
RMMfan Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 17 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Yes, this is what I understand. However, the power you gain from dropping an H22A over a B16A2 is great (something like 40 HP just on motor). These are the two motors I am considering. With this being my first swap, I don't want to buy and get myself into something that is too hard to do. The B16A2 is basically a drop in. However, the H22A would be much better for racing, putting more weight over the front wheels. By the way, how is the aftermarket for an H22A compared to a B16A2?

10-25-2006, 10:31 PM	#21
D Money Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 65 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 Civic Coupe Rep Power: 5	im tryna boost it nd possible a turbo, but i aint to sure bout it yet...i got a pretty good budget but cant go to far ya dig,, wen eva skool out i wana race it

10-26-2006, 01:07 AM	#23
unlikelyhero Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 21 Posts: 40 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	yes he knows what hes talking about. h22 is around $2000 the same as a b16a, but i often read that not only is it a difficult swap but even with a complete change over your still going to have to buy many different parts. so you would probrably end up spending more than you really intended. make sure you do your research before you go buying anything major. since this is your first swap i suggest you with a b series. personally i dont think the b16 has enough torque for me. i say save up and get a better motor or get the b16a and mod however you want.

10-26-2006, 01:25 AM	#24
D Money Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 65 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 95 Civic Coupe Rep Power: 5	good looks on the info nd shit, but yeah i think i will save up nd get the b18c1 or b18 c5, one of the two nd see whea ill go from thea!

10-26-2006, 06:41 AM	#25
RMMfan Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 17 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	This is true about the money spent on the parts to complete the H22A swap. The B18 from hmotorsonline (for the complete swap kit) is about 1250 more than the B16A2 complete swap. I would prob. end up spending more looking for the parts to finish the H22A swap than I would just buying the complete swap kit B18. I know that the B18/16 are easy drop-in's, and that they rev higher, but they don't produce as much torque. I will most likely end up just going with a complete B16/18 swap kit, and just dropping it in the engine bay.

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