rafa B

it was a honda belt 1.5 yeas old about 50.000 miles mybe less now im debating about turbo or k swap

AHHVTEC

it should have not broke. oem honda belts is about as good as they come

rafa B

it broke now i think if i go turbo ill probably cal HKS hopefully theyll have one or k20

AHHVTEC

i dont think hks will have a k20 lol

rafa B

i meant a belt. what u think? turbo or k20 swap

AHHVTEC

depends on your goal and budget

rafa B

no ac and no power steering or something new under the hood ill keep thinking later

AHHVTEC

dude no offence but, alot of your post just flat dont make sense, i think you need to read up alot on hondas, before you try anything

philyphreak2127

this is true I just tore apart my y7 that I pulled after it crapped out on me and found the rings were fried. I didn't necisarily mean lowering the compression I just meant the rods, pistons, head gasket, and of course arp head studs. That engine kit sounds like a kick ass deal. do you have a link for it?

SLOWdelawareEG

for 250whp, you HAVE to turbo the d. if ur on a budget, 250whp is unlikely with any natural asp. d/b/f(except f20c) without a ton of money. im assuming from the question that a k swap is out of the question, so u pretty much have to boost. however, 210-220 is about the universal maxwhp you can get on a stock rodded d, and thats pushing it to the limit. so no matter what ur gonna need to spend some coin to hit 250. either rods/slugs/turbo for the d, or b series swap boostin on a stock bottom end. both routes can easily see reliable 250whp, but will probably run about 3000 for a decent setup, assuming ur doing this shit yourself, if its done by a shop, expect to spend 4 to 5

K2e2vin

Boosted D's cost much less than that. You can have all needed bottom end parts for like $500 which includes pistons, rods, gaskets and seals. Spend about $50 on a STD, HF, or CX exhaust manifold, ~$20-$30 for an adapter plate, and probably $150 for a nice junkyard turbo. You'd also need other things like maybe slightly larger injectors(junkyard DSM 440s can be had cheap, and also Prelude VTEC 310s), tuning, and intake and exhaust plumbing.

SLOWdelawareEG

like i said, if you want a DECENT setup, it will cost you. hf manis and adapter plates with dsm injectors/resistor boxes is ghetto. not that it cant work, but its junk. seen it in action

SLOWdelawareEG

not to degrade anyone's setup, or attack anyone here with a DIY setup, im just sayin ive seen both diy's/dsm setups and actual turbo kits/pieced setups side by side and the car with the newer more superior parts is always better, cleaner, more reliable

K2e2vin

Homemade setups are proven to work well and reliably; they're decent. I too have seen homemade set ups and as long as you do everything correctly, you'll be fine. Spending $3000 on a turbo set up is pretty much a higher-end set up; as in "250whp is not your goal".

Also, I don't see how resistor boxes are ghetto when many Honda's came with them stock.

I'd rather have a 250whp "junk" homemade setup that works well vs. a 250whp $3000 setup that works just as well.

EvoTec1

b16's are a dime a dozen these days.... turbo that and you'd have to be numb to NOT make 250 hp, and thats with no building or really pushing anything.

With a k20 costing $$$ and local legit b16's going for 1100 with tranny... i'd way put a b16/t combo in ANYTHING right now. I'm actually sad that i have dreams of HC racing, cuz for the cost of my tranny rebuild you could be making some ridiculous power.

philyphreak2127

why swap the motor when you have 250 as your set goal? everyone just said that you can run that many horses on a stock d-series with a turbo. swapping the motor just to turbo that motor would be dumb, unless you plan on way more horse power. Work with what you got. As for homemade setups...don't talk shit about them. There is a guy running a twin t28 b16 that pushes a retarded amount of horse power for a homemade setup. Besides if you weren't in the tuning world to "customize" your car you wouldn't be here. Doing stuff yourself is what saves you tons of money. The more you can do the better, and if your really good at it it can make you money.

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SLOWdelawareEG

why do you try to blast every post i put up? then you always end by name calling and talking shit, then try to call ME immature? i was saying 3k for a swap AND boost. and btw, from your last outburst, you felt it was necessary to post a pic of your bullshit basemodel 3 series. like we give a shit. if i wanted a slow, poor handling piece of german shit, id buy one. until that day comes, you can catch me rockin swapped, FAST hondas(and ac's too). that being said, youre a fag. might as well piss off.

(you'll probably respond w/ a paragraph or two tryin to hate. so in advance, take your own advice, stop being immature over the net, and find someone else that gives a fuck)

AHHVTEC

blanco has a point, a put together turbo will work just as well if not better than a kit.

SLOWdelawareEG

im not saying that it wont! i never did! the kit on my car is pieced together for fucks sake. im saying get new nice reliable parts-not junk someones selling off their 200k mile dsm and then wire it up with resistor boxes that arent designed for that car. thats all im sayin. precision injectors are cheap, rcs can be found cheap and are way better than a used dsm setup.

EvoTec1

huh? where were ppl telling him it was ok to push 250 on a stock d??

do it kid

(if you wanna spend ur afternoons picking up pieces of your blown motor.)



on the bright side, those motor ARE cheap...

jdmmachine

ouch no need to get all angry

jdmmachine

damn i was driving down some street near a walmart and saw a 1989 supra for sale....$1,700....so tempting but it seems everytime i get one it dies on me somehow....its that car that always gets away from me...maybe im not ready for it yet lol

LS_VTEC

llllllllleeeeeetttts get ready to rummmmbbbllleeeeeeeeeeee

SLOWdelawareEG

this "half informed" feedback is based off personal experience. yeah i try to promote b swaps over building a piss slow no torque d series because in personal experience d's suck balls over b series all day. yeah i promote boost over n/a, if you want 270whp or more out of anything non k (except f20c) you have to boost. yeah i promote new turbo parts over used dsm bullshit, its a no brainer. and as for your 3 series:its slow and overpriced. yes it handles poorly as its a 3300lb shit box. how do you have the nuts to rep a stock 3 series on ANY honda website when you should know for a fact that a well tuned b (hell even d) will shit on a 3 series for 1/2 the price. and for the record i rock a boosted dc2. says so in my profile thingy on the left there. if you want, i can upload a pic of me next to it giving you the finger........

SLOWdelawareEG

and to be fair, the bm is def WAY nicer in stock form when compared to stock civs and tegs! obviously, its no comparison. but most of us here arent riding stock.............