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cheese9988 · 06-16-2007, 12:10 PM

This was done probably a year ago and I want to see what has changed. I got my hi def tv not to long ago and am looking to see what most of you would get for a player. My Time Warner hi-def dvr is the only thing I have that can take advantage of it.

I am not getting the dual format, $1100 is to much for the dvd player. It seems that the hd dvd has more support, but for the most part the blue-ray is better. Kinda the beta vs. vhs.

phyregod · 06-16-2007, 12:22 PM

Well, when I stroll down to my local hastings, I see a Blu-ray section. What I dont see is a HD-DVD section.

God, I wish I'd have invested in Blu-Ray. I almost did it, $1000 in whatever company was producing blu-ray back when it was an embrio. But I backed out for some stupid reason.

It still hasnt gone huge, so it would probably still be a good buy.

VTEC_CBR · 06-16-2007, 12:57 PM

Until there is a CLEAR victor, neither. But I do hate Sony, so it'd be nice to see them have another format fail.

YouKnowWhoIBee · 06-16-2007, 01:38 PM

I have HD DVD. and i love it. But the damn dvd's are so expensive. I wouldnt buy it until they go down in price.

jeffie7 · 06-16-2007, 07:27 PM

This is like asking what stock to buy....

I think forum after forum (Im on a lot of forums!) believe HDDVD is the way to go, I've also noticed forum after forum that everyone seems to be a xbox 360 fan boy go figure.

My take on it.

When a new DVD ad comes on tv, almost always I hear out on out DVD or out on DVD and Blu Ray. RARELY do I hear out on HDDVD and DVD.

It seems that sony is pushing for more movie releases on blu ray.

There's loose talk about Walmart backing HDDVD and not supporting (selling) bluray videos. I find that hard to believe but it was published in a few legit places.
in the end I think walmart would want to sell anything and everything if it means making another 2c

If I had to pick one I'd say Blu Ray it's a higher end product, it cost a bit more to make but sells for about the same as the HDDVD just check out Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more for blu ray disc.

While I'd pick blu ray over HDDVD I'd never put any money on it!
only time will tell.

YouKnowWhoIBee · 06-16-2007, 08:37 PM

I get my HDDVDs from target and ebay. I wouldnt pay more than 25 per dvd. And that means it must be a good movie. Like the departed

jeffie7 · 06-16-2007, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YouKnowWhoIBee

I get my HDDVDs from target and ebay. I wouldnt pay more than 25 per dvd. And that means it must be a good movie. Like the departed

Target = Amazon.com =)

they had a bunch of BRDVDs for 14.99 awhile back. I picked up a few =)

demonboy1300 · 06-16-2007, 10:50 PM

I work for Circuit City and from what i hear HD is gonna take it and the only reason polls and critics alike say its gonna win is because the porn industry chose HD and beleive that was the deciding factor

jeffie7 · 06-16-2007, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonboy1300

I work for Circuit City and from what i hear HD is gonna take it and the only reason polls and critics alike say its gonna win is because the porn industry chose HD and beleive that was the deciding factor

people say that, but when it comes down to it, what was the 90s porn DVD/VHS #s vs the 2000s porn #s gonna be like?

I for one will never buy another DVD/VHS. Why? because I have highspeed internet and can easily download HD porn.

80s and 90s you had to buy a video tape/dvd if you wanted to watch porn, or download a crappy ass 320x320 cloudly boxy looking video that takes 2 hours for 5 minutes.

now I can get on rapidshare and download hours of porn like its nothing. =)

Ronny Cage · 06-16-2007, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonboy1300

I work for Circuit City and from what i hear HD is gonna take it and the only reason polls and critics alike say its gonna win is because the porn industry chose HD and beleive that was the deciding factor

I work for circuit city too... 0537 south jersey, car audio/video games supervisor as of last week.

I have also noticed that the blu-ray movies you can physically see compression in them... in which looks like shit.

Hd dvd looks crisp. I like the picture. Blu-ray sound is better due to uncompressed audio... but the picture makes peoples faces look pasty and chalked. It looks like garbage.

jeffie7 · 06-17-2007, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronny Cage

I work for circuit city too... 0537 south jersey, car audio/video games supervisor as of last week.

I have also noticed that the blu-ray movies you can physically see compression in them... in which looks like shit.

Hd dvd looks crisp. I like the picture. Blu-ray sound is better due to uncompressed audio... but the picture makes peoples faces look pasty and chalked. It looks like garbage.

I hope you don't help people buy HDDVD based on your thoughts of bluray...

Either your store has a crappy setup using wrong settings or a cheap tv/br player, or your store is stupid and is using up converted old "remastered" dvds that are sold labeled as "BRDVD disc" also some of the newer movies can be poorly mastered making them look like crap, this goes for both HDDVD and BR.

watch MI3, Crank, ice aged, or any of the other worth while blue ray disc.

I took this picture of the movie while it was playing using no special settings. while it doesn't really show off just how great it looks, it does give you an idea.

HighDefDiscNews.com | Your source for Blu-ray Disc & HD DVD

go to that site and read the reviews for both HDDVD and Blu Ray disc, you'll find that both suffer from remixed old movies. Just like how you can find old 70s movies remastered in HD on INHD (tv station)

quote from a new Pirates 2 review for bluray.

Quote:

Video Quality on this release is in AVC MPEG-4 on a 50 gigabyte Dual-Layer Blu-ray Disc. This is nothing short of spectacular. This is easily the best video quality on a Blu-ray Disc release yet. I honestly almost think at times this video transfer could be better than “The Matrix Trilogy“. Which I think most everyone already knows is the real competition on the rival format HD DVD to these films on Blu-ray Disc. Keep in mind that “Pirates” does have a 50gb Blu-ray Disc to work with where HD DVD release of “The Matrix Trilogy” is currently limited to a 30gb disc (per film). But that’s beside the point. The point is that this film offers loads of beautiful imagery and I’m not just talking about Keira Knightley. The views at sea in the opening cinematic make for absolute “eye candy” at it’s finest. The major action scenes like the sword fight between Jack and Will when they first meet are amazing examples of how great this really looks in High Definition. In fact apparently I’m not the only one who believes so, Disney (Buena Vista) included that scene in the “Spotlight Showcase” feature in the bonus materials where they show the most “High Def” worthy scenes from a film on their Blu-ray Disc releases. That scene also offers great sound with the swords clashing and makes a good transition into my next part of this review…

Maybe you're store isn't stupid and is being paid by the HDDVD guys to play down the blu ray players. =)

Ronny Cage · 06-17-2007, 10:54 AM

cg animation looks good on blu-ray yes. Mi3 not to bad.. and crank was decent. I thought ultra violet, elektra, and superman all looked like shit. our demo disk for blu-ray looks good but then again its a demo disk made by the company to enhance sales on those products specifically.

Im different then most sales people. I tell my customers to look at the picture and tell me what they like. Then explain to them that everyone is different and has their own preference ... I could tell you which one I would like you to buy BUT... Im not the one watching the picture you are.

again this is a poll... so its opinionated.

I like hd dvd more myself... my opinion

TurboMirage · 06-17-2007, 10:59 AM

i have a blu-ray player

SHOGUNOVDDRK · 06-17-2007, 12:26 PM

not considering buying either untill the prices go below $800aud

Ronny Cage · 06-17-2007, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHOGUNOVDDRK

not considering buying either untill the prices go below $800aud

you can easily find both priced under 800. I just sold a hd dvd player for 100$ yesterday.

If you buy a toshiba tv you got 200$ off the hd dvd player... came out to be 99.99 afterwards. not a bad deal.

YouKnowWhoIBee · 06-17-2007, 03:56 PM

That is for an upconvert dvd player. Not a true HDDVD player.

cheese9988 · 06-17-2007, 04:19 PM

When you say you can see the compression, is it still better than a standard dvd? I mean it can't be total crap?

Ronny Cage · 06-17-2007, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YouKnowWhoIBee

That is for an upconvert dvd player. Not a true HDDVD player.

no sir that is for the hd dvd player. tos_hda2

I sell upconvert dvd players too. this was just a sale.

Ronny Cage · 06-17-2007, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheese9988

When you say you can see the compression, is it still better than a standard dvd? I mean it can't be total crap?

better then standard on most movies yes.

hd dvd looks better... again in my opinion. on everything I've seen

SHOGUNOVDDRK · 06-17-2007, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronny Cage

you can easily find both priced under 800. I just sold a hd dvd player for 100$ yesterday.

If you buy a toshiba tv you got 200$ off the hd dvd player... came out to be 99.99 afterwards. not a bad deal.

shipping?

jeffie7 · 06-18-2007, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHOGUNOVDDRK

shipping?

Cheaper players only offer 1080I just a FYI. Buy the Toshiba HD DVD Player (HDA2) and other HD DVD & Blu-ray Disc Players at circuitcity.com
Don't forget to buy the TV so you get the special deal.

AP: Blockbuster to Favor Blu-Ray HD Disc: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance

neat little write up I just saw.

nootrac22 · 06-18-2007, 10:33 AM

just looking at a historical point bluray= sony= betamax, but it's still too early to tell.

jeffie7 · 06-18-2007, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nootrac22

just looking at a historical point bluray= sony= betamax, but it's still too early to tell.

Play station anyone?

pissedoffsol · 06-25-2007, 12:30 PM

i'd like to see blue ray come out on top.

but as of now, i'm not buying anything

get_nick · 06-25-2007, 12:37 PM

It's going to be blu-ray.

Blockbuster chooses Blu-ray: is the war over? - Engadget

View Poll Results: Which format
HD-DVD	4	33.33%
Blue-Ray	8	66.67%
Voters: 12. You may not vote on this poll

06-16-2007, 12:10 PM	#1
cheese9988 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Age: 28 Posts: 1,640 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 2007 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Rep Power: 31	HD-DVD or Blue-ray which would you buy? This was done probably a year ago and I want to see what has changed. I got my hi def tv not to long ago and am looking to see what most of you would get for a player. My Time Warner hi-def dvr is the only thing I have that can take advantage of it. I am not getting the dual format, $1100 is to much for the dvd player. It seems that the hd dvd has more support, but for the most part the blue-ray is better. Kinda the beta vs. vhs. __________________ Is it good when my dipstick is rusty on my jeep? Linux Mint 6.0 "The only man who makes no mistakes is the man who never does anything. Do not be afraid to make mistakes providing you do not make the same one twice." Theodore Roosevelt http://homemodders.com/t188/

06-16-2007, 07:27 PM	#5
jeffie7 My Vtec is biger then urs Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Maryland Age: 26 Posts: 9,161 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 283	This is like asking what stock to buy.... I think forum after forum (Im on a lot of forums!) believe HDDVD is the way to go, I've also noticed forum after forum that everyone seems to be a xbox 360 fan boy go figure. My take on it. When a new DVD ad comes on tv, almost always I hear out on out DVD or out on DVD and Blu Ray. RARELY do I hear out on HDDVD and DVD. It seems that sony is pushing for more movie releases on blu ray. There's loose talk about Walmart backing HDDVD and not supporting (selling) bluray videos. I find that hard to believe but it was published in a few legit places. in the end I think walmart would want to sell anything and everything if it means making another 2c If I had to pick one I'd say Blu Ray it's a higher end product, it cost a bit more to make but sells for about the same as the HDDVD just check out Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more for blu ray disc. While I'd pick blu ray over HDDVD I'd never put any money on it! only time will tell. __________________ www.handsonkitchen.com www.dogurday.com www.jeffnortham.com

06-16-2007, 10:50 PM	#8
demonboy1300 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Harrisburg,PA Posts: 190 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 88' CRX ZCt Rep Power: 7	HD I work for Circuit City and from what i hear HD is gonna take it and the only reason polls and critics alike say its gonna win is because the porn industry chose HD and beleive that was the deciding factor __________________ God Created Turbo Lag To Give V8's a Chance!

06-17-2007, 10:54 AM	#12
Ronny Cage DaughterTestedMomApproved Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: south jersey Age: 24 Posts: 74 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2001 honda s2000 Rep Power: 6	cg animation looks good on blu-ray yes. Mi3 not to bad.. and crank was decent. I thought ultra violet, elektra, and superman all looked like shit. our demo disk for blu-ray looks good but then again its a demo disk made by the company to enhance sales on those products specifically. Im different then most sales people. I tell my customers to look at the picture and tell me what they like. Then explain to them that everyone is different and has their own preference ... I could tell you which one I would like you to buy BUT... Im not the one watching the picture you are. again this is a poll... so its opinionated. I like hd dvd more myself... my opinion __________________ bada ba ba ba. im lovin it


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06-16-2007, 12:57 PM	#3
VTEC_CBR Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 28 Posts: 1,003 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2004 SE-R Rep Power: 81	Until there is a CLEAR victor, neither. But I do hate Sony, so it'd be nice to see them have another format fail.

06-16-2007, 01:38 PM	#4
YouKnowWhoIBee my avatar is better. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Maryland Age: 25 Posts: 2,241 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 52	I have HD DVD. and i love it. But the damn dvd's are so expensive. I wouldnt buy it until they go down in price.

06-16-2007, 08:37 PM	#6
YouKnowWhoIBee my avatar is better. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Maryland Age: 25 Posts: 2,241 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 52	I get my HDDVDs from target and ebay. I wouldnt pay more than 25 per dvd. And that means it must be a good movie. Like the departed

06-17-2007, 10:59 AM	#13
TurboMirage Running on two cylinders Join Date: May 2003 Location: Southbridge, MA Age: 25 Posts: 18,155 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 2000 Mitsubishi Lancer RPW E5 Coupe Rep Power: 337	i have a blu-ray player __________________ Home of the RPW built 2000 Lancer CC Coupe. See what is done to the little Evo5. "If you don't like what I've done with my car, I will gladly refund all the money you put into it."

06-17-2007, 03:56 PM	#16
YouKnowWhoIBee my avatar is better. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Maryland Age: 25 Posts: 2,241 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 52	That is for an upconvert dvd player. Not a true HDDVD player.

06-17-2007, 04:19 PM	#17
cheese9988 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rochester, NY Age: 28 Posts: 1,640 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 2007 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged Rep Power: 31	When you say you can see the compression, is it still better than a standard dvd? I mean it can't be total crap? __________________ Is it good when my dipstick is rusty on my jeep? Linux Mint 6.0 "The only man who makes no mistakes is the man who never does anything. Do not be afraid to make mistakes providing you do not make the same one twice." Theodore Roosevelt http://homemodders.com/t188/

06-18-2007, 10:33 AM	#22
nootrac22 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: PA pocono mts Age: 33 Posts: 4,002 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: daily driver working on 92 prelude 4ws Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 228	just looking at a historical point bluray= sony= betamax, but it's still too early to tell.

06-25-2007, 12:30 PM	#24
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	i'd like to see blue ray come out on top. but as of now, i'm not buying anything

06-25-2007, 12:37 PM	#25
get_nick The G37.... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Washington State Age: 29 Posts: 9,992 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Black G37, '07 R6 Rep Power: 266	It's going to be blu-ray. Blockbuster chooses Blu-ray: is the war over? - Engadget __________________ I changed the page layout. let me know what you think. I need feedback. www.obamacies.com

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