phyregod

Have you ever been in a sound room and compared bose to the very high end stuff? Have you really?

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reikoshea

i have. and really there is no comparison.

go to best buy magnolia with their bose room. then go to modia with their B&W room and tell me its the same sound.

I dare you.

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bose is the kia of audio.

corvetteguy78

Bose stuff sounds good, but there is definitely better out there. Overpriced too.

jeffie7

I ask you this,

who the HELL is news gazette and how come Bose cannot publish a TV or radio ad using any major audio/video reviewers?

Bose is worse then a friggin Kia, Kia is a cheap car that clearly knows its cheap and trys to base its ads on being cheap.

Bose is about as good as low range audio yet has a price tag of mid range stuff and runs ads as if they're high end stuff.

Anyone who Bose sound system in their car knows just how great they are, in the 350Z forums one of the first mod anyone does to their car is rip that CHIT out.

Bose is smart, they spend millions of dollars on store fronts and tv ads, they push their product as something that's good. and whenever you hear people talk highly about bose, almost always that person has never had any real time in front of anything worth while, Lets be honest here, if you take anyone off the street who has a TV with TV speakers and put them in front of most anything that offers 5.1 SS, they're going to think OMG THIS ROCKz!!!!!

how come if you google "bose review" the first page that turns up is a bose sucks page? the 2nd page, "
BOSE Acoustimass - Better Profits Through Marketing "

back in the day bose did have some good chit, in 1968 bose put out the 901s and they were the shit. However, 40 years later they make the same damn speaker using different materials but its the same damn speaker. a lot has change in the world of sound, bose rather then design new high end stuff, they keep making their big dollar sound in a box crap, or the sound wave crap, or other crap that people who have no clue about sound buy. Marketing at its best!

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At least Kia doesn't go around on TV with BS reviews from some random mag stating they're as sporty as a BMW M series but as refined in the art of luxury as a Lexus...

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reikoshea

I think im going to go HTiB for initial setup, then buy a Onkyo 606 and pair it with this: SVSound - Complete Systems

5.1 option and the 12" Sub.

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awptickes

The 606 is one of their cheaper receivers. Keep that in mind.

The best thing to do is to buy the most expensive receiver you can afford FIRST, then collect speakers afterwards. If you get a good receiver, it'll keep you extremely happy.

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onkyo ht4100 $189.00

Shop Onkyo

awptickes

If you go with a HTiB, be sure to get the kind that is just speakers. Otherwise you'll end up buying everything all over again when you get a better receiver.

My parents got a yamaha HTiB system that they've been pretty happy with for about 5 years now. It's got plenty of room for upgrade, and it starts off with a decent set of speakers.

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Those SVS speakers don't look too bad. I dunno about the price, it seems about right. I'd want to listen first.

If you've got some time, and you don't mind building your own speakers (by building, I mean soldering crossover, and screwing speakers into cabinets) then look into some kits on partsexpress.com. I got a pair of bookshelf speakers that are really nice from them on sale for $99. They're on par with my $400/ea bookshelf speakers.

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reikoshea

Yeah, ive stopped doing stuff with my hands recently...as dirty as i get is adding ram to a server.

A buddy of mine is also leaning towards the SVS system, so i guess ill hear it then and decide. He's got an 806 though and not a 606. If i do the HTiB route i think ill be fine with spending more on the amp later.

Im not really an audiophile, but i dont like hollow sound either...thats the only reason i plan on upgrading the HTiB.

PS. the hollow sound thing is yet another reason i dont like the s2000. Terrible head unit even with new speakers (and i dont wanna replace the HU because of the dash controls).

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From time to time Onkyo has specials and they had this for sale:
Onkyo HT-S5100 - 7.1-Channel Home Theater Package with iPod® Dock | Model Information | Onkyo USA Home Theater Products

Its a 7.1 system with an ipod dock. I read some reviews on avsforum and around the web in general and its generally considered the best HTB you can get besides putting things together yourself. The only major draw back is that its an hdmi switch that doesnt process the audio.

Im supposed to get it next Tuesday so ill tell you how it sounds.

PS i know its not top quality stuff but for the $250 i paid, im looking forward to it.

Slammed89Integra

Onkyo and yamaha are where its at for HTiB I think.

I've had both and I love them. Currently we have an LG system we paid I believe 400-500 for at my college house. It's great for what my roommate paid, but isn't anything special compared to an onkyo of the same price but with twice as big speakers.

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corvetteguy78

You should really really consider the BIC Acoustics my friend. Save yourself about 400 dollars over the SVS and buy a really good reciever or even go 7.1.

Call Sound Distributors. I was going to buy the Klipsch and they referred me to the BIC Acoustics saved me about 600 bucks

reikoshea

Yeah, the guys on AVS seem to like bic, but i couldnt find any other info on them.

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corvetteguy78

to bad you didin;t live in Ct i'd let you come over and experience "The Matrix" demo hehe

reikoshea

are you just running the surrounds? or do you have floorstanders?

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I have th arrounds mounted to the wall and the Towers are obviouly on the keft and right of the TV and the Center is Above the TV and the Sub in on the floor next to the TV as well

Here is a great Review on the speakers i have a 799 for the set I am telling you cannot go wrong.

Acoustech 5.1 Speakers review, MAR04 AUDIOPHILE AUDITION

reikoshea

BIC Acoustech Home Theater System

Is this what you have?

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corvetteguy78

Yeap, those are them!

I would get them from Sound Distributors though if you can, it hink the shipping was less. under 100 i believe

reikoshea

nice.

So i think ive got it figured out.

Panasonic PT-AX200U $1,000
Focupix 95" Screen $300
Onkyo HT-S5100 $340

A little over budget, but i can live with 150 over budget.

Ill probably go with the acoustech's after living with the onkyo's for a little while...and probably pick up an onkyo 706 receiver.

Thanks for the help guys.

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Well just to save you some money

$925 shipped

Panasonic PT-AX200U HDTV Home Theater Projector AX200
Panasonic PT-AX200U HDTV Home Theater Projector AX200 - eBay (item 300274330889 end time Dec-17-08 14:50:53 PST)

$335 shipped Onkyo HT-S5100 7.1
Onkyo HT-S5100 7.1 Channel Home Entertainment System - eBay (item 320319313043 end time Nov-26-08 13:12:40 PST)

not sure how set you are on that screen but

$220 shipped Accuscreen 800001 100" Diagonal 16:9 Electric Projection Screen

Accuscreen 800001 100" Diagonal 16:9 Electric Projection Screen - White Case at TigerDirect.com

Total $1480

Not for nothing cause to each their own. i think your making a mistake choosing better picture over better sound. I doubt you will notice that much picture difference between high def projector or high Def TV, unless you just have to have a 90+ inch screen then i can see why.

But good luck with whatever it is you purchase, its the fun!

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Just thought I'd throw my .02 in...I recently purchased a new TV and stereo for my living room. I got the TV for $800 and the surround for $400, and got them to throw in a Monster HDMI cable for free. Is it the best out there? By no means...but for $1200 it's pretty goddamn decent - I'm happy with it.



LG - 50" Class 720p Flat-Panel Plasma HDTV - 50PG20
Product Features

• Built-in HDTV tuner
  Add HD-capable antenna to receive over-the-air high-definition broadcasts, where available. Optional set-top box required for high-definition cable or satellite programming.
• 49-9/10" screen size
  Measured diagonally from corner to corner for use in large rooms.
• 1365 x 768 pixel resolution
  Supports 720p signals for stunning image clarity.
• 16:9 widescreen aspect ratio
  6 aspect ratio correction modes for a cinema-style entertainment experience. 3:2 pulldown for accurate reproduction of film-based sources.
• Dual XD Image Processing Engine technology
  Enhances analog signals to near-HD levels by improving brightness, contrast and detail.
• 7 picture selection modes and 3 A/V modes
  Customize picture and sound settings for movies, sports or games.
• Other image enhancement technologies
  Include 3 image sticking minimization modes, 20,000:1 dynamic contrast, fluid motion technology, wide color control, pure black level, enhanced line doubler, 4 color temperature modes and black stretcher.
• 2-way built-in 20W speaker system
  Dolby Digital sound decoder and SRS TruSurround XT deliver a virtual surround sound experience. Bass, treble and balance controls and 5 selectable sound modes create a customized sound.
• Clear Voice technology
  Reduces background noise for improved dialogue quality.
• Auto volume leveler
  Prevents volume fluctuations during commercials, eliminating the need to adjust the settings.
• Ultraslim LCD
  Measures 3-4/9" deep and may be mounted on a wall (with optional mounting kit, not included). VESA 400mm x 400mm compatible.
• HDMI inputs
  Provide an uncompressed, all-digital audio/video link for the highest quality connection and support of copy-protected HD broadcast content.
• USB 2.0 port
  For quick connection of a digital camera or other USB device.
• Inputs
  Include 3 HDMI (1 side, 2 rear), 2 HD component video (rear), 1 component video (side), 1 S-video (rear), 1 PC (rear), 1 PC audio (rear) and 1 RF antenna (rear).
• Outputs
  Include 1 optical digital audio (rear).
• V-Chip parental controls
  Give you the option of blocking undesirable material that you don't want your kids to see.
• ENERGY STAR qualified
  Designed to use less energy and meets strict energy efficiency guidelines set by the Environmental Protection Agency and U.S. Department of Energy.
• Wide ranges of additional features
  Includes trilingual (English, French, Spanish) on-screen menus with auto channel programming, input labeling, quick view, quick set up guide, SimpLink functionality, sleep timer and favorite channels feature.

Panasonic - 1250W 5.1-Channel Home Theater System with 5-Disc Upconvert DVD Player - Black - SC-PT960
Product Features

• Complete home theater system includes progressive-scan upconverting 5-disc DVD/CD player, stereo receiver, 2 front speakers, 1 center speaker, 2 rear speakers and 1 passive subwoofer
• 5-disc DVD/CD changer plays DVD, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R DL, DVD-RAM, CD, CD-R/RW, VCD, SVCD, WMA, MP3 and JPEG formats
• Multiple surround sound decoders built in. Learn more about surround sound home theater

• Built-in surround sound decoders include Dolby Digital, Dolby Pro Logic II and DTS
• Total power: 1250W (250W x 2 front speakers @ 3 ohms, 1kHz, 10% THD; 250W center speaker @ 6 ohms, 1kHz, 10% THD; 125W x 2 surround speakers @ 3 ohms, 1kHz, 10% THD; 250W subwoofer @ 6 ohms, 100Hz, 10% THD)
• RMS power output: 483W (104W x 2 front speakers @ 3 ohms, 1% THD; 101W center speaker @ 6 ohms, 1% THD; 34W x 2 surround speakers @ 3 ohms, 1% THD; 106W subwoofer @ 6 ohms, 1% THD)
• HD upconversion delivers greatly enhanced video performance by upconverting the video resolution of standard DVDs to HDTV-compliant 1080p formats via HDMI connection
• Two 2-1/2" 2-way bass reflex front speakers, 2-way full-range bass reflex center speaker with two 2-1/2" bamboo diaphragm cones and two 2-1/2" full-range bass reflex rear surround speakers
• Passive subwoofer with 10" radiator and 6-1/2" woofer cone
• Built-in Apple iPod dock lets you listen to your favorite music or watch videos stored on your iPod through the home theater system; compatible with most Apple iPod models with a dock connector
• Sound enhancement modes include whisper-mode surround, surround enhancer, subwoofer boost and Cinema Mode
• Dialogue enhancer emphasizes dialogue and minimizes background sounds while maintaining proper balance and dynamic range
• Wireless rear speaker-ready (wireless rear speaker kit included)
• VIERA Link control function; supports multiroom playback
• Inputs: 1 optical digital audio, 1 audio
• Outputs: 1 component video, 1 video, HDMI and 1 headphone jack

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i still think the projector is a mistake

TommyTheCat

You still think his video budget should be more than his audio budget

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