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94civicturbo · 12-10-2009, 06:06 AM

how? lol

reckedracing · 12-23-2009, 11:33 AM

I ended up going with a droid.

Just a heads up. If you add the contacts in your gmail account they will sync with your phone.
much easier to add all the information with a regular keyboard.

klyph · 12-23-2009, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reckedracing

I ended up going with a droid.

Just a heads up. If you add the contacts in your gmail account they will sync with your phone.
much easier to add all the information with a regular keyboard.

Werd, gmail sync rocks. Pushes mail to the phone, syncs contacts, integrates my google voice account...
I love my HTC G1, and would love to have a Droid, but we don't have Verizon up here yet. My next phone will for sure be an Android phone. Brand me with your mark, dark lord. Take my soul google, you were gonna get it eventually.

VTEC_CBR · 12-23-2009, 10:12 PM

Fuck the Droid, this is my next phone even if I have to switch to t-mobile to get it.

VTEC_CBR · 12-23-2009, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSRCRXsi

i'm on the fence between the iphone and the droid.

i love the look and feel of the iphone. and its super simple to use, and has a ton of functionality. as well as LOTS of apps. but the droid is more customizable, has more free apps, and has GPS navigation (turn by turn). but it doesnt look as pretty or clean. honestly they should have done away with the flip out keyboard and stuck to the same touch screen as the iphone. and the droid is on a better network. but i dunno. if te droid looks more simple like the iphone, it would be no contest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by E_SolSi

if you dont need a new phone right now i would hold off on buying something right now

android is planning on releasing v2.1 December 11th

and there are about 20 android phones in the works for the upcoming year... with very promising looking offerings from Samsung and HTC

as an OS Android is awesome... my only complaint with the Droid is the hardware (bulky, blocky, poorly designed slide out keyboard)... from what i am seeing in the works from other companies, that will be taken care of

This is why 'll be getting the Nexus One. It's about the same size as the iPhone. It's got everything that's good about the Droid, packaged like an iPhone.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/23/e...ly-retail-sal/

klyph · 12-24-2009, 07:30 PM

Can't live without my physical keyboard, no thanks. That alone is why I'd get a droid over an iphone.

VTEC_CBR · 12-24-2009, 10:44 PM

I don't understand the fear people have of not using a physical keyboard. I've had several in the past, good ones too. It did take a few days to get used to the keyboard on the iPhone, but now I'll never go back. The build quality is so much nicer when it doesn't have to split in half to separate along, along with the unit being able to be less bulky.

94civicturbo · 12-24-2009, 11:14 PM

i hate on screen keyboards, i touch 2 or 3 things at a time instead of 1

VTEC_CBR · 12-25-2009, 06:18 PM

I have big hands but typing on screen is very easy.

klyph · 12-26-2009, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VTEC_CBR

I don't understand the fear people have of not using a physical keyboard. I've had several in the past, good ones too. It did take a few days to get used to the keyboard on the iPhone, but now I'll never go back. The build quality is so much nicer when it doesn't have to split in half to separate along, along with the unit being able to be less bulky.

With the G1, I have both, so ya, the use of it is not a problem, and I use the on screen board for most texting. My problem is the fact that the keyboard takes up most of the screen, so for any application such as web browsing, gaming, etc. where you need to press buttons while looking at the screen at the same time, it just doesn't work as well. You can't beat the ability to input without losing most of your screen. The on screen keyboard has it's place, and I use it, but I'll never give up a physical keyboard.
You can talk about how the added bulk of the keyboard isn't worth it, yada yada, My smartphone is smaller than the first cell phone I owned, and in a few years, phones with physical keys will be just as thin as the iPhone, but everyone will say it's not worth having the physical keys, because their iPhone 7G is as thin as a sheet of paper and they can roll it up and hide it in their ass.
The only thing I can imagine replacing physical keys is text to speech. The text to speech on the Android phones is decent, and I think the Dragon Naturally speaking app on the iPhone is slightly better. But, they all lag, and don't work reliably enough to be a valid replacement. Maybe in a few years text to speech will be refined enough for me to ditch my keyboard since it doesn't take up real estate on the display, but until then, trying to switch back and forth between display/keyboard is dumb.

VTEC_CBR · 12-26-2009, 04:34 PM

Eh, agree to disagree then. I see your point on taking up screen space, it just doesn't bother me. I've never used a G1 though, so the screen could be a little smaller, and the onscreen keyboard could be less receptive than the iPhone. I don't know.

reckedracing · 12-27-2009, 08:29 AM

First post from the droid. On the real keyboard.
Still loving the phone.

corvetteguy78 · 12-29-2009, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reckedracing

First post from the droid. On the real keyboard.
Still loving the phone.

Does it support Flash when surfing the web? Thats one thing i hate about my Env Touch

GSRCRXsi · 12-29-2009, 09:21 PM

i dont think any of the phones support flash.

i got the iphone. and im glad i did. the build quality is so nice, and the screen is very smooth to the touch. probably due to the glass screen. the screen on the droid i think is plastic which isnt as smooth to glide your finger across. both of my parents got the droid. i got the iphone. im glad i did, even if att service isnt as good as verizon. i still get full 3G everywhere pretty much with the exception of the building i work in

klyph · 12-29-2009, 09:24 PM

Gorilla protects DROID's glass screen from breakage (Phone Arena News)

klyph · 12-29-2009, 09:27 PM

klyph · 12-29-2009, 09:27 PM

You need to brush up on your google-fu

GSRCRXsi · 12-29-2009, 09:52 PM

i wasnt questioning its strength or durability, i just dont like how it feels on my finger. the touch on an iphone is much smoother. the screen is plenty strong on the iphone, but i got the accidental protection on it anyway, ive seen plenty of shattered screens. if i drop mine, ill get a new one thanks to the plan.

overall, the iphone is a much more polished product. and it has all the features i wanted, thats why i chose it over the droid.

klyph · 12-30-2009, 01:46 AM

klyph · 12-30-2009, 01:48 AM

For some reason, I hear you lisping: "the iPhone was thmoother, thath why i got it".

sry
<drinkin

reckedracing · 12-30-2009, 09:56 AM

lmao
drunk klyph FTW

VTEC_CBR · 12-30-2009, 12:24 PM

Fuck yeah, the Nexus One is $530 unlocked or $180 with a tmobile contract. Their coverage is fine where I live so tmobile here I come.
http://m.gizmodo.com/site?t=Twg0miQN...&sid=gizmodoip

D16Civic · 12-30-2009, 12:43 PM

my wife is about due for her tmo upgrade. Might be one of these in her future.

VTEC_CBR · 12-30-2009, 05:58 PM

Great review, January 5th can't come soon enough.

http://gizmodo.com/5432678/google-nexus-one-hands-on

Quote:

Google Nexus One Hands On

Thanks to a clandestine meeting with a source, I got a chance to play with and try out the Nexus One. It's basically, from my time with it, Google's Droid killer. It's thin, it's fast, it's better in every way.
My source was very firm about no photography, and I didn't want to jeopardize anything on my source's end, so there are no photos, hence these photos are ones we've already shown you. But, based on all the leaked shots this week, plus the very pretty and very clear one last week from Boy Genius, everyone knows what the phone looks like already. Hell, there's even a complete UI walkthrough today that's on YouTube. So I'm going to focus on the experience, and how it compares to the Droid and the iPhone 3GS.

How it feels

The Nexus One is slightly thinner than the iPhone 3GS, and slightly lighter. No hard specs were thrown around, unfortunately, since Google didn't even let people who they gave the phone to know that. The back is definitely not cheap and plasticky, like the iPhone's backing, and feels like some sort of rubbery material. So, not smooth like the iPhone, but not as rubbery as the Droid. It's halfway in-between.
You can call the design the antithesis of the Droid: smooth, curved, and light, instead of hard, square and pointy. It feels long and silky and natural in your hand—even more so than the iPhone 3GS. There are also three gold contacts on the bottom designed for future docking (possibly charging?) use, but there aren't any accessories available for the phone now. It plugs in via microUSB at the moment.

That screen is damn good

Even though the screen is the same size and same resolution as the Droid, it's noticeably better. The colors are much more vibrant and the blacks are blacker, as evidenced by putting both side by side and hitting up various websites and loading various games. The pinks on Perez Hilton and the blues on Gizmodo just popped a lot more on the N1, and made the Droid (which was actually considered to have a great screen) seem washed out. The same feeling carries over when you compare the Nexus with the iPhone 3GS. And it's pretty damn bright, compared to the other two phones.
This is probably the best screen we've seen on a smartphone so far. Probably.
Why is it so fast?

Google just gave Motorola (and Verizon) a swift shot to the TSTS, because the Nexus One is astonishingly faster than the Droid. The speed dominance was most evident when we compared the loading of webpages, but even when you're just scrolling around, launching apps and moving about the OS, you could tell that there's a beefier brain inside the N1. I don't know the specs for sure, but there's talk of a 1GHz processor being inside, which would push it quite a ways above the 550MHz Arm A8 in Motorola's newest toy.
When comparing the three phones in loading a webpage over Wi-Fi, the Nexus One loaded first, the iPhone 3GS came in a few seconds later, and the Droid came in a little while after that. This was constant throughout many webpage loads, so it's indicative of something going on inside with the hardware.
I ran all three through a Javascript benchmark engine for some quantifiable numbers, and while the results were similar between the Nexus One and the iPhone 3GS, the Droid still came up at about 60% of the other two. Surprisingly enough, Mobile Safari on the iPhone scored better on the Javscript benches than the Nexus did, even though the Nexus was able to pull down and render actual web pages faster. Note that I didn't list actual numbers here, for privacy reasons.
That crazy video background

You've no doubt heard about the animated video backgrounds, but they're actually more than just animations: you can interact with them.

The default background is the square/8-bit like one shown above, where lines of colored squares come in from different sides of the screen. What's neat (even if it is superfluous and battery draining) is that you can tap anywhere on the desktop in a blank space and trigger dots to spread out from your tap. Basically, press anywhere to cause blocks to fly outwards. The same thing happens in the "water" background, except instead of blocks, you cause ripples in the water.
What's also neat are the two virtual sound meters, which act as a visualizer for whatever music you're currently playing on your phone. There's one analog one that looks like one of the old ones with a red needle, and a "digital" one that looks similar to ones you see elsewhere. Sorta neat in itself, but it shows that the interactive backgrounds can actually interact with apps, as long as one knows the other's APIs.
Other bits

The 5-megapixel camera is nice, and the flash works well enough for a flash on a phone, but it's not spectacular, as seen by early photos taken and uploaded online by Googlers. There is autofocus, and you activate it with the trackball on the face of the phone. There is no tap-to-focus as see on the iPhone 3GS.
There's no multitouch in the browser or in the map, but I think at this point that's more of a legal consideration than a technical one, since many phones that run Android have the capability of supporting multitouch on a hardware level.
Playing back music over the speakers sounded decent, but not great. It's definitely in need of a dock—like all smartphones—if you want to listen to music for a sustained period.
I didn't get a chance to call on it, because I wanted to keep this as anonymous as possible, and didn't want any sort of way to trace when I used the phone. From what other people say in their time with it, it functions fine as a phone, and should work as normally as other Android phones in the SMS/MMS department.
So what's this all mean?

If Google's planning on releasing this phone as their official Google phone, it'll certify them as the premium Android phone brand out there right now. Even though it doesn't have a hardware keyboard, it basically beats the hell out of the Droid in every single task that we threw at it. And face it, some people didn't like the Droid's keyboard because it was too flush and the keys were too unseparated with each other. N1's onscreen keyboard felt fine, and the speedy processor made sure that each key was interpreted well.
But in the end, it's still an Android phone. If you want Android phones, this is the one to get, provided Google goes ahead with the rumored plans of either selling it themselves or partnering with T-Mobile in a more traditional role. Droid, shmoid; Nexus is the one you're looking for.
Image courtesy anonymous tipster

VTEC_CBR · 12-30-2009, 05:59 PM

Great review, January 5th can't come soon enough.

Google Nexus One Hands On - Nexus one - Gizmodo

Quote:

Google Nexus One Hands On

Thanks to a clandestine meeting with a source, I got a chance to play with and try out the Nexus One. It's basically, from my time with it, Google's Droid killer. It's thin, it's fast, it's better in every way.
My source was very firm about no photography, and I didn't want to jeopardize anything on my source's end, so there are no photos, hence these photos are ones we've already shown you. But, based on all the leaked shots this week, plus the very pretty and very clear one last week from Boy Genius, everyone knows what the phone looks like already. Hell, there's even a complete UI walkthrough today that's on YouTube. So I'm going to focus on the experience, and how it compares to the Droid and the iPhone 3GS.

How it feels

The Nexus One is slightly thinner than the iPhone 3GS, and slightly lighter. No hard specs were thrown around, unfortunately, since Google didn't even let people who they gave the phone to know that. The back is definitely not cheap and plasticky, like the iPhone's backing, and feels like some sort of rubbery material. So, not smooth like the iPhone, but not as rubbery as the Droid. It's halfway in-between.
You can call the design the antithesis of the Droid: smooth, curved, and light, instead of hard, square and pointy. It feels long and silky and natural in your hand—even more so than the iPhone 3GS. There are also three gold contacts on the bottom designed for future docking (possibly charging?) use, but there aren't any accessories available for the phone now. It plugs in via microUSB at the moment.

That screen is damn good

Even though the screen is the same size and same resolution as the Droid, it's noticeably better. The colors are much more vibrant and the blacks are blacker, as evidenced by putting both side by side and hitting up various websites and loading various games. The pinks on Perez Hilton and the blues on Gizmodo just popped a lot more on the N1, and made the Droid (which was actually considered to have a great screen) seem washed out. The same feeling carries over when you compare the Nexus with the iPhone 3GS. And it's pretty damn bright, compared to the other two phones.
This is probably the best screen we've seen on a smartphone so far. Probably.
Why is it so fast?

Google just gave Motorola (and Verizon) a swift shot to the TSTS, because the Nexus One is astonishingly faster than the Droid. The speed dominance was most evident when we compared the loading of webpages, but even when you're just scrolling around, launching apps and moving about the OS, you could tell that there's a beefier brain inside the N1. I don't know the specs for sure, but there's talk of a 1GHz processor being inside, which would push it quite a ways above the 550MHz Arm A8 in Motorola's newest toy.
When comparing the three phones in loading a webpage over Wi-Fi, the Nexus One loaded first, the iPhone 3GS came in a few seconds later, and the Droid came in a little while after that. This was constant throughout many webpage loads, so it's indicative of something going on inside with the hardware.
I ran all three through a Javascript benchmark engine for some quantifiable numbers, and while the results were similar between the Nexus One and the iPhone 3GS, the Droid still came up at about 60% of the other two. Surprisingly enough, Mobile Safari on the iPhone scored better on the Javscript benches than the Nexus did, even though the Nexus was able to pull down and render actual web pages faster. Note that I didn't list actual numbers here, for privacy reasons.
That crazy video background

You've no doubt heard about the animated video backgrounds, but they're actually more than just animations: you can interact with them.

The default background is the square/8-bit like one shown above, where lines of colored squares come in from different sides of the screen. What's neat (even if it is superfluous and battery draining) is that you can tap anywhere on the desktop in a blank space and trigger dots to spread out from your tap. Basically, press anywhere to cause blocks to fly outwards. The same thing happens in the "water" background, except instead of blocks, you cause ripples in the water.
What's also neat are the two virtual sound meters, which act as a visualizer for whatever music you're currently playing on your phone. There's one analog one that looks like one of the old ones with a red needle, and a "digital" one that looks similar to ones you see elsewhere. Sorta neat in itself, but it shows that the interactive backgrounds can actually interact with apps, as long as one knows the other's APIs.
Other bits

The 5-megapixel camera is nice, and the flash works well enough for a flash on a phone, but it's not spectacular, as seen by early photos taken and uploaded online by Googlers. There is autofocus, and you activate it with the trackball on the face of the phone. There is no tap-to-focus as see on the iPhone 3GS.
There's no multitouch in the browser or in the map, but I think at this point that's more of a legal consideration than a technical one, since many phones that run Android have the capability of supporting multitouch on a hardware level.
Playing back music over the speakers sounded decent, but not great. It's definitely in need of a dock—like all smartphones—if you want to listen to music for a sustained period.
I didn't get a chance to call on it, because I wanted to keep this as anonymous as possible, and didn't want any sort of way to trace when I used the phone. From what other people say in their time with it, it functions fine as a phone, and should work as normally as other Android phones in the SMS/MMS department.
So what's this all mean?

If Google's planning on releasing this phone as their official Google phone, it'll certify them as the premium Android phone brand out there right now. Even though it doesn't have a hardware keyboard, it basically beats the hell out of the Droid in every single task that we threw at it. And face it, some people didn't like the Droid's keyboard because it was too flush and the keys were too unseparated with each other. N1's onscreen keyboard felt fine, and the speedy processor made sure that each key was interpreted well.
But in the end, it's still an Android phone. If you want Android phones, this is the one to get, provided Google goes ahead with the rumored plans of either selling it themselves or partnering with T-Mobile in a more traditional role. Droid, shmoid; Nexus is the one you're looking for.
Image courtesy anonymous tipster

12-29-2009, 09:52 PM	#68
GSRCRXsi Posts: 8,365	i wasnt questioning its strength or durability, i just dont like how it feels on my finger. the touch on an iphone is much smoother. the screen is plenty strong on the iphone, but i got the accidental protection on it anyway, ive seen plenty of shattered screens. if i drop mine, ill get a new one thanks to the plan. overall, the iphone is a much more polished product. and it has all the features i wanted, thats why i chose it over the droid. Last edited by GSRCRXsi; 12-29-2009 at 09:57 PM.

12-30-2009, 12:24 PM	#72
VTEC_CBR Posts: 1,075	Fuck yeah, the Nexus One is $530 unlocked or $180 with a tmobile contract. Their coverage is fine where I live so tmobile here I come. http://m.gizmodo.com/site?t=Twg0miQN...&sid=gizmodoip Last edited by VTEC_CBR; 12-30-2009 at 12:30 PM.

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12-23-2009, 11:33 AM	#52
reckedracing Posts: 19,755	I ended up going with a droid. Just a heads up. If you add the contacts in your gmail account they will sync with your phone. much easier to add all the information with a regular keyboard.

12-23-2009, 10:12 PM	#54
VTEC_CBR Posts: 1,075	Fuck the Droid, this is my next phone even if I have to switch to t-mobile to get it.

12-24-2009, 07:30 PM	#56
klyph Posts: 6,160	Can't live without my physical keyboard, no thanks. That alone is why I'd get a droid over an iphone.

12-24-2009, 10:44 PM	#57
VTEC_CBR Posts: 1,075	I don't understand the fear people have of not using a physical keyboard. I've had several in the past, good ones too. It did take a few days to get used to the keyboard on the iPhone, but now I'll never go back. The build quality is so much nicer when it doesn't have to split in half to separate along, along with the unit being able to be less bulky.

12-24-2009, 11:14 PM	#58
94civicturbo Posts: 1,477	i hate on screen keyboards, i touch 2 or 3 things at a time instead of 1

12-25-2009, 06:18 PM	#59
VTEC_CBR Posts: 1,075	I have big hands but typing on screen is very easy.

12-26-2009, 04:34 PM	#61
VTEC_CBR Posts: 1,075	Eh, agree to disagree then. I see your point on taking up screen space, it just doesn't bother me. I've never used a G1 though, so the screen could be a little smaller, and the onscreen keyboard could be less receptive than the iPhone. I don't know.

12-27-2009, 08:29 AM	#62
reckedracing Posts: 19,755	First post from the droid. On the real keyboard. Still loving the phone.

12-29-2009, 09:21 PM	#64
GSRCRXsi Posts: 8,365	i dont think any of the phones support flash. i got the iphone. and im glad i did. the build quality is so nice, and the screen is very smooth to the touch. probably due to the glass screen. the screen on the droid i think is plastic which isnt as smooth to glide your finger across. both of my parents got the droid. i got the iphone. im glad i did, even if att service isnt as good as verizon. i still get full 3G everywhere pretty much with the exception of the building i work in

12-29-2009, 09:24 PM	#65
klyph Posts: 6,160	Gorilla protects DROID's glass screen from breakage (Phone Arena News)

12-29-2009, 09:27 PM	#67
klyph Posts: 6,160	You need to brush up on your google-fu

12-30-2009, 01:48 AM	#70
klyph Posts: 6,160	For some reason, I hear you lisping: "the iPhone was thmoother, thath why i got it". sry <drinkin

12-30-2009, 09:56 AM	#71
reckedracing Posts: 19,755	lmao drunk klyph FTW

12-30-2009, 12:43 PM	#73
D16Civic Posts: 1,223	my wife is about due for her tmo upgrade. Might be one of these in her future.

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