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Dustin_m · 01-18-2005, 04:46 PM

Yes i know i should build it myself, but i really like these. also i think i want media center next, and this pc has basically what i want next itme. the only other thing i want is water colled. can that be added to this computer or does it have to be done when its built?

I like the one with just the tower a lot, but the one with the flat panel seems like a good deal. I know i heard B talking about going wtih a SATA HD, what is better about these, and whats with the price defference in these two PC's?

tower only link

desktop pc wtih flat panel

Battle Pope · 01-18-2005, 04:48 PM

Sony Vaio = too much money for not enough computer.

pissedoffsol · 01-18-2005, 05:24 PM

holy fuck! 1800 buck!?

i will build you an exact replica for 1500.

then, i'll go for a night on the town with the 600 i pocketed.

Slammed90Lude · 01-18-2005, 05:24 PM

Dustin_m · 01-18-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Jan 18 2005, 05:24 PM
holy fuck! 1800 buck!?

i will build you an exact replica for 1500.

then, i'll go for a night on the town with the 600 i pocketed.

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umm say that again?

yeah well then heres a question, seriously would you wanna build one for me? aslso what about the water cooling

the reason i dont wanna build it myself is cause i dont have copies of all the programs i need. I dont really wanna run a pirated copy of Xp on a PC i just spent like a grand for

and what u think about the whole one with the monitor

Battle Pope · 01-18-2005, 05:52 PM

Building one would be HELLA cheaper. Even to pay B to do it. :P

corvetteguy · 01-19-2005, 08:24 AM

Check out this Sony Vaio

Sony

mdlax1 · 01-19-2005, 09:04 AM

yeah i built my system that surpasses that for 1200

reckedracing · 01-19-2005, 09:35 AM

check out pricewatch.com
they have complete systems with operating systems...

and the water cooling can be added later on, and its not really necessary unless you're overclocking

Calesta · 01-19-2005, 11:52 AM

Hell I'll build you one a cheaper too- easy. I can even throw in a legit copy of XP pro.

If you're going to buy a pre-built PC though, Sony is a pretty good way to go. They generally use very high quality components, not lowest bidder crap like Dell, Cumpaq, Gateway etc. Every Vaio case I opened had an Asus board in it.

If you're not willing to build your own machine, I wouldn't mess with the water cooling. You have to flush and refill it just like any other water based cooling system (like your car), and you'll want to tear it all apart every now and then to do it.

Dustin_m · 01-19-2005, 03:19 PM

Well im not worried about building my own, i just dont want to mess with it. yea im willing to flush the cooling system and stuff. and one of the reasons i waant it si because its a lot quieter, since i sleep right next to my comp. and its always on. I also Not really sure about overclocking it, dont even know how to. i never got into that because of my junk ass computers i had.

Hey calesta, where do you live?

Dustin_m · 01-19-2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally posted by corvetteguy@Jan 19 2005, 08:24 AM
Check out this Sony Vaio

Sony

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Thnaks corvetteguy, but i will probably run media center, because in my next apt, my sony TV, and sony surround sound is gonna be in the room, and i always watch movies. Thats why i like the Vaio because it has the TV tuner and stuff already on there, since i wanna use my next comp as a TIVO.

Calesta · 01-19-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by senate_9427@Jan 19 2005, 02:19 PM
Well im not worried about building my own, i just dont want to mess with it. yea im willing to flush the cooling system and stuff. and one of the reasons i waant it si because its a lot quieter, since i sleep right next to my comp. and its always on. I also Not really sure about overclocking it, dont even know how to. i never got into that because of my junk ass computers i had.

Hey calesta, where do you live?

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I sleep fine with all my loud fans on, but then again- my water cooling setup wasn't put into a case that I was trying to keep quiet.

I'm in Houston (Texas).

Dustin_m · 01-19-2005, 03:40 PM

oh yeah texas. for soem reason i thought you were here in cali.

If one of you guys on here can seriously build the same PC for a lot sheaper then i would be interested, but if its only a little cheaper, then i would rather just pay the extra for the brand name one. stupid but thats how i am, and i have always been satisfied with my stuff. all my electronics are sony, and i love the quality.

Calesta · 01-19-2005, 03:46 PM

I'll price it out later. One big drawback to having someone else build it for you though is the lack of one single manufacturer's warranty. If you build it all from solid components though, you generally won't have to worry about that.

I'll PM you later tonight with a price.

Dustin_m · 01-19-2005, 04:07 PM

cool thanks, yeah basically, media center, with tv tuner, 200-250mb hd SATA? atleast 1 gig ram, etc.

Sabz5150 · 01-19-2005, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by Calesta+Jan 19 2005, 03:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Calesta @ Jan 19 2005, 03:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-senate_9427@Jan 19 2005, 02:19 PM
Well im not worried about building my own, i just dont want to mess with it. yea im willing to flush the cooling system and stuff. and one of the reasons i waant it si because its a lot quieter, since i sleep right next to my comp. and its always on. I also Not really sure about overclocking it, dont even know how to. i never got into that because of my junk ass computers i had.

Hey calesta, where do you live?

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I sleep fine with all my loud fans on, but then again- my water cooling setup wasn't put into a case that I was trying to keep quiet.

I'm in Houston (Texas).

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When I used to sleep in the same room as my computers, I *couldn't* sleep unless they were on. The sound of the fans was not only comforting, but let me know that my systems were running. One night the power went out and I came right out of my sleep b/c something was wrong.

You run Linux, right?

reckedracing · 01-19-2005, 05:01 PM

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When I used to sleep in the same room as my computers, I *couldn't* sleep unless they were on.

sorry to thread jack but i;m the same way
been running the same big ole box fan constantly for about 4 years now, and the one before that for prob three years...
i know ALL about dust throwing off the balance of the fan
lol

Calesta · 01-19-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally posted by senate_9427+Jan 19 2005, 03:07 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(senate_9427 @ Jan 19 2005, 03:07 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>cool thanks, yeah basically, media center, with tv tuner, 200-250mb hd SATA? atleast 1 gig ram, etc.

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Yeah, I can put together something like that pretty easily. SATA doesn't really matter though, especially with just one drive- all it really does for you is take the buffer burst speed up from 133MB/s to 150MB/s. It's not like there's any kind of big jump to SCSI like smart command queueing (not even the Raptop, controllers can't use it).

<!--QuoteBegin-Sabz5150@Jan 19 2005, 03:48 PM
When I used to sleep in the same room as my computers, I *couldn't* sleep unless they were on. The sound of the fans was not only comforting, but let me know that my systems were running. One night the power went out and I came right out of my sleep b/c something was wrong.

You run Linux, right?

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Since living with my girlfriend again, I've had to readjust to sleeping with the computers off at night. It's not easy. I'm building a separate small "quiet" sound damped PC to keep on at night so I can continue my downloads and hack scripts while I sleep.

Dustin_m · 01-19-2005, 06:11 PM

Thats why i put the ? by the SATA, i see it on the better computers but dont know the difference. oh and i will probably run 2 drives because i might buy another 200gb or 250, i like having all my music and stuff on the computer so i dont have to mess with cd's that much.

Calesta · 01-19-2005, 07:41 PM

If you're going to run multiple drives it might be a good idea... either way, when you're talking about the brand new frontrunner drives, there's only about a $10 difference between Ultra133 and SATA150.

Sabz5150 · 01-20-2005, 03:34 AM

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Originally posted by Calesta@Jan 19 2005, 05:32 PM

Since living with my girlfriend again, I've had to readjust to sleeping with the computers off at night. It's not easy. I'm building a separate small "quiet" sound damped PC to keep on at night so I can continue my downloads and hack scripts while I sleep.

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You can always get an old PC power supply and just have that run by itself in the room.

Calesta · 01-20-2005, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by Sabz5150@Jan 20 2005, 02:34 AM
You can always get an old PC power supply and just have that run by itself in the room.

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Huh? You mean to keep my brain company at night? Nah. Just one power supply isn't loud enough.

Battle Pope · 01-20-2005, 11:56 AM

maybe a power supply with a 120mm fan hooked up to it :P

Calesta · 01-20-2005, 01:06 PM

I'd need about 10 of them.

01-19-2005, 08:24 AM	#7
corvetteguy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bristol ,CT Posts: 889 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 23	Check out this Sony Vaio Sony __________________ 2005 Scion TC

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mdlax1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On the Proverbial picked fence of Insanity.... aka..Baltimore Maryland Posts: 936 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 23	yeah i built my system that surpasses that for 1200 __________________ ===============================

01-19-2005, 09:35 AM	#9
reckedracing TTIWWOP Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 845 Area, NY Age: 29 Posts: 15,381 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 90 z6-t hatch, 94 Bagged S10, 91 Lifted Mazda Rep Power: 411	check out pricewatch.com they have complete systems with operating systems... and the water cooling can be added later on, and its not really necessary unless you're overclocking __________________ I'll blow a hole in your face then go inside and sleep like a baby.

01-19-2005, 11:52 AM	#10
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	Hell I'll build you one a cheaper too- easy. I can even throw in a legit copy of XP pro. If you're going to buy a pre-built PC though, Sony is a pretty good way to go. They generally use very high quality components, not lowest bidder crap like Dell, Cumpaq, Gateway etc. Every Vaio case I opened had an Asus board in it. If you're not willing to build your own machine, I wouldn't mess with the water cooling. You have to flush and refill it just like any other water based cooling system (like your car), and you'll want to tear it all apart every now and then to do it. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

01-19-2005, 03:46 PM	#15
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	I'll price it out later. One big drawback to having someone else build it for you though is the lack of one single manufacturer's warranty. If you build it all from solid components though, you generally won't have to worry about that. I'll PM you later tonight with a price. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688


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pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	holy fuck! 1800 buck!? i will build you an exact replica for 1500. then, i'll go for a night on the town with the 600 i pocketed.

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01-19-2005, 07:41 PM	#21
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	If you're going to run multiple drives it might be a good idea... either way, when you're talking about the brand new frontrunner drives, there's only about a $10 difference between Ultra133 and SATA150. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

01-20-2005, 01:06 PM	#25
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	I'd need about 10 of them. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

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