spoolin@idle

I'm halfway between a decent build and a budget build. I refuse to aim for that power mark on a stock bottom end... but I won't go "all out" and build something that is going to be capable of 600 hp when I don't plan on putting that down.

Starting out with a full B18B (no, not doing lsvtec)... this is my plan. I'm going to at least have the block hot tanked and surfaces decked, as well as having the cylinders posted. Cheaper alternative to sleeving it and I don't want to deal with the non-cooling issues that block guards can cause. I am thinking CP pistons, Eagle rods, ARP rod bolts, new seals and bearings obviously. MLS head gasket, ARP head studs, Crower cams, crower valvetrain, Ferrera valves, and of course, the head will recieve a PnP.

Some people are telling me "no just have the block sleeved". For those of you who DO actually know what posting is... please let me know if you fully agree with me in that 400 hp should be easily attainable with 9:1 compression, the build listed above, and say 18 - 20 psi through a GT35R.

reikoshea

looks like good choices. only thing i personally would change is the valves and springs. look into manley, they have some good prices. I cant find anyone who actively sells their parts for imports, but the guy in my sig can get them.

Your build is attainable. While you do have the posibility of blowing your engine (tuning will be the big cause of this), not sleeving will not be the reason the engine blows. Even if it does, buying another b18 block is still cheaper than sleeving.

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spoolin@idle

Tuning is not an issue. Myself and my roommate both know our tuning quite well. It is my belief, as well as his, that as long as the block is posted properly by my machine shop, everything should be fine.

reikoshea

you should be good, but posting is not a substitute (meaning as good) for sleeving. but it is a cheaper alternative for adding stability to your block.

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spoolin@idle

of course it's not a complete substitute. however, 400 hp isn't justifyable for sleeving to me.

reikoshea

nor me, which is why i tend to agree with your overall solution.

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jeff evans and others are making 450-500+ on stock sleeves, without posting. tuning, tuning tuning.

spoolin@idle

interesting. i'll probably just have it posted anyways, more of a mental security thing.

thanks for the help everyone

any other suggestions to throw my way?

reikoshea

only thing really is the gt35r might be a little big for your goals, but ive never gone that high on a b18b. an lsvtec (gsr head) would definitely hit 450+ at 20 psi. I dont know if a stock ls head flows well enough to do the same.

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I was thinking about that this morning. Considering costs, I will probably just do a T3/T04E 60/63 .50 trim. I can get them brand new for about $600. The LS head will also be ported and polished as well as turbo spec crower cams, full valvetrain.

reikoshea

i think your second choice is much more in the range of a budget build and it will meet your power goals as well. i say go for it.

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spoolin@idle

Indeed I shall. I'm wondering if I should spend the money on a nice equal length / ramhorn manifold or whether I should just go log. Eh fuck it. I like purdy manifolds that flow better. I'll do equal length.

divisii

Only thing I'd say, make sure you have the ignition/fuel output to handle this .. oh, it deserve a nice header too.

Posting has been successfully used for years .. nice list.

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divisii

technically a header can be a turbo manifold it just has a point for the blower, right? semantics I guess?

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spoolin@idle

i know what he meant. cooks turbo headers for mustangs are called just that.

its basically a tubular turbo manifold rather than conventional log style. and yes i do intend on using a "turbo header"

divisii

Nah, Blanco, you're all good ... I agree terminology does matter. Normally,
I type the shortest possible answer ... which can come out confusing for some.

Turbo may come from the term turbine, but they are definitely not the same! A blower is a belt-driven device for 'stacking' air into an intake manifold using a screw-type or other style rotor, & was originally intended for large diesel/farm equipment motors/engines. (term- engine or motor??) A centrifugal supercharger is a belt-driven turbo ....... on & on.

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spoolin@idle

guys it's okay. i know terminology, and i know the contexts used in this thread.

lol this is going to get expensive real quick

4x4crx

just fired my built turbo b16 up last night. waiting for tuning built just haw u said ur goin to build yours. your be fine. 400 easy hp.(lots of dyno time)and even more money

spoolin@idle

dyno time and tuning is no big deal.

me and my roommate have tuned many, many turbo setups. uberdata, chrome, hondata, megasquirt, you name it.

oh, and i decided to go LS-VTEC. no sense not to realistically.

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formby

good job

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plus, i want to have vtec in both my cars. the beater, and the nice car. and by nice car, i mean my accord. F23 a woot.

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Exodus

I assume you are using ENDYN posts, why not get their block girdle as well? These two things should provide adequate bottom-end strength considering the potential revs that engine will see, as well as the amount of boost you're throwing at it. Performance per dollar gives a thumbs up to those two compared to sleeves, IMO.

BTW, the correct term is ENGINE, a motor is ELECTRICALLY powered, engine's power our cars

MSD is the ONLY choice for ignition upgrades, which you may need for your setup. The only other thing I can recommend would be coil-on-plug (not coil-packs, that's different than coil-on-plug), which would then give you infinite spark potential. I've not got much to say beyond that except that it would behoove you to check with a Honda Bike dealership and price out the cost of the main pieces there Beyond that, research is your friend.

Don't forget, you'll need a MAP sensor capable of handling this engine, look for the Motorola 2.5 bar, GM 3 bar bows to it.

A word of advice, I'd put more focus into your fuel\oil\spark than the long-block. All of us can list of how we'd like to build ours with an unlimited budget, and they would all handle a lot of abuse, but most forget that these dream-engines still need excellence in oil\fuel\spark delivery to work\last\make power.

glhf!

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This May Sound Stupid But How Do I Start A New Thread Im New To This

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go to the forum for your question (if you wanna put an engine into your teg, your gonna be looking to go to the integra section or the Hybrid -> DC section).

Once there click the New Thread button towards the top.

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