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superstrom · 10-09-2003, 03:28 AM

Has anyone heard of honda or any other company, in limited numbers creating a 3.2 liter 4-cylinder that puts out roughly anywhere from 350-425 HP but is lighter than a D16 series engine for honda cars? If it exist it would possibly be used for racing purposes in japan. Possibly called a J-spec? Specs may be off..... has anyone heard of anything like this frankenstein of an engine or anything similar?

Thank You

Sincerely,

Truth finder

xj0hnx · 10-09-2003, 03:31 AM

Um, no.

pissedoffsol · 10-09-2003, 05:23 AM

a frank is an ls/vtec. and not 1 makes half that power without some boost.

Calesta · 10-09-2003, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Oct 9 2003, 05:23 AM
[b] a frank is an ls/vtec. and not 1 makes half that power without some boost.

There are some all motor B series engines making that kind of power to the crank- the lower figure, not the 400+ one.

JDMilan · 10-09-2003, 10:14 AM

frank is made of ls bottom and vtec head, popular due to the extra stroke of the Ls crank.

smooth_criminal · 10-09-2003, 10:20 AM

Or a b20 bottom with a vtec head.

red95solsi · 10-09-2003, 11:05 AM

i thought that frankenstein was h23 with h22 head on there

saturn_boy96 · 10-09-2003, 11:23 AM

thats an h22/h23 frank. h22 head, h23 block.

Calesta · 10-09-2003, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by red95solsi@Oct 9 2003, 11:05 AM
[b] i thought that frankenstein was h23 with h22 head on there

Basically any engine with a head swap can be called a Frankenstein... it's just a slang term anyway.

civicious · 10-09-2003, 12:09 PM

has anyone seen/heard about that B-series crate engine that's being made now? i can't think of who makes it...

92civicb18b1 · 10-09-2003, 12:20 PM

If you want a N/A motor that has 350 hp, take a b20 block, bore it about 10 over and put some high compression pistons in it, along with rods, get it resleeved, and put a b18c5 head on it, put new racing cams in that motherfucker, with valves, retainers etc., and get it port and polished. Also P&P the intake manifold. Mill the head enough for like 15 to 1 compression and run race fuel in it, maybe youll get 350 hp.

O and i guess this doesn't answer you question, I'll answer it, THERE IS NO *STOCK* HONDA ENGINE THAT MAKES OVER 300 HP. If you want it do it yourself.
Go turbo, youll get alot more hp than N/A

xj0hnx · 10-09-2003, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by civicious@Oct 9 2003, 06:09 PM
[b] has anyone seen/heard about that B-series crate engine that's being made now? i can't think of who makes it...

Dart makes one, and another company in Japan has been making them for a while, but they are expensive.

SleEPeR_CRX · 10-09-2003, 01:06 PM

ya dart makes them but they are still no where near 400 hp.

sloazcrx · 10-09-2003, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by 92b16vx+Oct 9 2003, 12:41 PM-->

Quote:

Originally Posted by 92b16vx @ Oct 9 2003, 12:41 PM)

civicious

Quote:

Originally Posted by 92b16vx @ Oct 9 2003, 12:41 PM)

@Oct 9 2003, 06:09 PM
[b] has anyone seen/heard about that B-series crate engine that's being made now? i can't think of who makes it...

Dart makes one, and another company in Japan has been making them for a while, but they are expensive.

I believe I read somewhere that they cost about 10k.

NoJokE · 10-09-2003, 02:23 PM

The one Dart makes is just the bare block, and it cost around 2 grand.

civicious · 10-09-2003, 02:36 PM

theres one thats like the whole motor...not just the block

it uses a Dart block thogh, i think its called "the beast" or some gay shit like that.

read about it in Import Racer

edit: Mr. Gasket assembled it

http://www.mrgasket.com/maildirect/md_arch...eweb.asp?ID=467

220 hp to the wheels, right out of the box.

NoJokE · 10-09-2003, 02:52 PM

Hmm, didnt know that, thanks for the link.

asmallsol · 10-09-2003, 03:05 PM

Payn Tech is great, plus they are only 30 minutes from me. He showed up to a redline meet with his black type R (wing and lip removed, all badges shaved) with a new 2.0 dart block in her. He was saying that it felt like a 12.1-12.2 setup. He also said that in 2 weeks, he was going to pull the engine and put something else in there. Must be nice to do that every few weeks.

cws13 · 10-11-2003, 03:04 PM

They do cost around 10K and with that much to spend I (or you) could build many things to own a 220HP motor. The block sounds promising though. As our B-series pool runs dry there will be many more of these bottom ends used.
And a 4 cly with a displacement of 3.5 to 4 would tap out lower than a Mustang- very un-Honda, unless they are jumping into the tractor business with both feet.

wildbillhatchbac · 10-11-2003, 08:19 PM

i think toyota is the only company that has made a 4cyl engine over 3 liters. they used it in a japanese model suv/truck. i think . . .

wildbillhatchbac · 10-11-2003, 08:23 PM

found it . . .

here

kinda ugly, and it runs on diesel, but its rwd so you can drift it

naspc · 10-13-2003, 04:53 PM

can a different head be put on a D16Y8 sohc? like maybe a dohc head? and if its possible watt is involved?

civicious · 10-13-2003, 07:15 PM

not a dohc head. you could put a d16y7 non-vtec head, but why would you??

and start a new post for a new topic.

naspc · 10-15-2003, 05:46 PM

sorry i thought it was still within the topic! I'll remember next time.

I heard u can do that (put a dohc on D16Y8) from someone. I want a dohc engine without doing a complete engine swap.

J · 10-15-2003, 05:52 PM

Sorry not going to happen. Only maybe a zc and still not sure aboiut that.

10-09-2003, 12:20 PM	#11
92civicb18b1 Posts: 8,859	If you want a N/A motor that has 350 hp, take a b20 block, bore it about 10 over and put some high compression pistons in it, along with rods, get it resleeved, and put a b18c5 head on it, put new racing cams in that motherfucker, with valves, retainers etc., and get it port and polished. Also P&P the intake manifold. Mill the head enough for like 15 to 1 compression and run race fuel in it, maybe youll get 350 hp. O and i guess this doesn't answer you question, I'll answer it, THERE IS NO STOCK HONDA ENGINE THAT MAKES OVER 300 HP. If you want it do it yourself. Go turbo, youll get alot more hp than N/A __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

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10-09-2003, 03:28 AM	#1
superstrom Posts: 1	Has anyone heard of honda or any other company, in limited numbers creating a 3.2 liter 4-cylinder that puts out roughly anywhere from 350-425 HP but is lighter than a D16 series engine for honda cars? If it exist it would possibly be used for racing purposes in japan. Possibly called a J-spec? Specs may be off..... has anyone heard of anything like this frankenstein of an engine or anything similar? Thank You Sincerely, Truth finder

10-09-2003, 05:23 AM	#3
pissedoffsol Posts: 49,698	a frank is an ls/vtec. and not 1 makes half that power without some boost.

10-09-2003, 10:14 AM	#5
JDMilan Posts: 6,733	frank is made of ls bottom and vtec head, popular due to the extra stroke of the Ls crank.

10-09-2003, 10:20 AM	#6
smooth_criminal Posts: 563	Or a b20 bottom with a vtec head.

10-09-2003, 11:05 AM	#7
red95solsi Posts: 306	i thought that frankenstein was h23 with h22 head on there

10-09-2003, 11:23 AM	#8
saturn_boy96 Posts: 1,507	thats an h22/h23 frank. h22 head, h23 block.

10-09-2003, 12:09 PM	#10
civicious Posts: 9,200	has anyone seen/heard about that B-series crate engine that's being made now? i can't think of who makes it...

10-09-2003, 01:06 PM	#13
SleEPeR_CRX Posts: 1,226	ya dart makes them but they are still no where near 400 hp.

10-09-2003, 02:23 PM	#15
NoJokE Posts: 1,317	The one Dart makes is just the bare block, and it cost around 2 grand.

10-09-2003, 02:36 PM	#16
civicious Posts: 9,200	theres one thats like the whole motor...not just the block it uses a Dart block thogh, i think its called "the beast" or some gay shit like that. read about it in Import Racer edit: Mr. Gasket assembled it http://www.mrgasket.com/maildirect/md_arch...eweb.asp?ID=467 220 hp to the wheels, right out of the box.

10-09-2003, 02:52 PM	#17
NoJokE Posts: 1,317	Hmm, didnt know that, thanks for the link.

10-09-2003, 03:05 PM	#18
asmallsol Posts: 8,075	Payn Tech is great, plus they are only 30 minutes from me. He showed up to a redline meet with his black type R (wing and lip removed, all badges shaved) with a new 2.0 dart block in her. He was saying that it felt like a 12.1-12.2 setup. He also said that in 2 weeks, he was going to pull the engine and put something else in there. Must be nice to do that every few weeks.

10-11-2003, 03:04 PM	#19
cws13 Posts: 484	They do cost around 10K and with that much to spend I (or you) could build many things to own a 220HP motor. The block sounds promising though. As our B-series pool runs dry there will be many more of these bottom ends used. And a 4 cly with a displacement of 3.5 to 4 would tap out lower than a Mustang- very un-Honda, unless they are jumping into the tractor business with both feet.

10-11-2003, 08:19 PM	#20
wildbillhatchbac Posts: 827	i think toyota is the only company that has made a 4cyl engine over 3 liters. they used it in a japanese model suv/truck. i think . . .

10-11-2003, 08:23 PM	#21
wildbillhatchbac Posts: 827	found it . . . here kinda ugly, and it runs on diesel, but its rwd so you can drift it

10-13-2003, 04:53 PM	#22
naspc Posts: 3	can a different head be put on a D16Y8 sohc? like maybe a dohc head? and if its possible watt is involved?

10-13-2003, 07:15 PM	#23
civicious Posts: 9,200	not a dohc head. you could put a d16y7 non-vtec head, but why would you?? and start a new post for a new topic.

10-15-2003, 05:46 PM	#24
naspc Posts: 3	sorry i thought it was still within the topic! I'll remember next time. I heard u can do that (put a dohc on D16Y8) from someone. I want a dohc engine without doing a complete engine swap.

10-15-2003, 05:52 PM	#25
J Posts: 9,811	Sorry not going to happen. Only maybe a zc and still not sure aboiut that.

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