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**Zoarette-racing** · 02-11-2003, 10:39 PM

Wasup, I was wondering what to do to make more power out of my B16. I might build an ls/vtech or b20
I dont know what to do or should i keep my 16 and raise the compression cause its a 1.6. What about cams i heard only 16 whp. What should I do for I/H/E (intake,header,exhuast) and if I build a b20 will my axel be ok

THANKS, Zoarette racing team

E_SolSi · 02-11-2003, 11:49 PM

LS/VTECH ????

you mean this???

Havok · 02-11-2003, 11:59 PM

Woo Woo!

VTEC!, genius!

mwasnp · 02-12-2003, 12:03 AM

First thing you can do is to spell better

and I doubt cams are going to get you 16 whp, although I wouldnt doubt the manufacturer told you that. If you really want to make your car faster turbo it, or send your block in to be bored out, and maybe get some different rods to increase your stroke. That would get you to a 2.0l. If you have the money I would do a turbo kit as well as that. But turbo is expensive. To do it right you are looking at around $5k including tuning, to do it cheaply (low power gains, like 75 hp or so) maybe $3k, and for massive power gains, $15k or more. All about what you want out of it, and you only get out what you put in. Look around on the board there is alot to learn here, and then if there is something you can't find ask questions. But do look first chances are its already been asked.

Havok · 02-12-2003, 12:14 AM

Calesta · 02-12-2003, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mwasnp@Feb 11 2003, 11:08 PM
send your block in to be bored out, and maybe get some different rods to increase your stroke. That would get you to a 2.0l.

You're not going to make 2.0L on a B16 block without some pretty extensive modifications. It would be cheaper to buy a B18 block and resleeve/bulletproof it for a 2.0L bore.

jjay · 02-16-2003, 05:48 PM

sorry but i dont think that thats a b16 /ls i dont see a vtec selenoid and the cell phone is a good cover up on the valve cover

Domeskilla · 02-16-2003, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jjay@Feb 16 2003, 05:53 PM
sorry but i dont think that thats a b16 /ls i dont see a vtec selenoid and the cell phone is a good cover up on the valve cover

for one.. its an LS... ppl stick VTEC heads on to ls blocks = ls/vtec. That n00b spelt it vtech, with a "h", the same way the phone maker company does (house phones, not cell). So they made that pic to add the "VTECH" onto the LS block..

I can't believe I had to fucking explain that shit. I feel fucking dumber now!

pills_PMD · 02-17-2003, 04:32 PM

Slammed89Integra · 02-17-2003, 04:51 PM

liquid00meth · 02-17-2003, 10:11 PM

I have never laughed out loud so hard reading responses

that graph is pure gold.

Vtech

liquid00meth · 02-17-2003, 10:13 PM

By the way, does zorette racing have any open spots? I mean, I don't have VTECH or a 2.0L b16, but hey, I will try to keep up with you guys at the track.

ventolin5 · 02-18-2003, 02:36 AM

ouch!! u guys are harsh!!

**zoarette** · 02-20-2003, 11:27 AM

OOps Thanks for the info, but what about super charging it so i can get some good low end power. What about a hytech header I've heard a lot of good things about them,

Thanks Zoarette racing

spicdaddy1507 · 02-20-2003, 12:58 PM

Btw, it's probally impossible to get a B16 to 2.0 lt.....Since EVEN if you sleeve the block, the biggest bore you can get out of it is 84 mm or you'll start thinning out the water passages thus cracking the cylinder walls in the long run....Besides that, the only other thing you can do to increase the displacement would be to increase the stroke, since the deck height of the B16 and B17 are alike, you can swap a B17 crank into the B16 motor and use B17 rods to increase your stroke without running into piston to valve problems....I did the same setup in my ride....I had to do all the research so I talked to AEBS professionals and to some of the local shops who do this kind of stuff every day, and most come up with 100 different viewpoints....But I say upgrading your B16 will be worth it.....Mostly because the R/S will be better than any other block you work on guarenteed.

**zoarette** · 02-20-2003, 08:42 PM

If I Do swap the B17 crank into my 16, Wont I have to much low end power cause Im still running stock clutch ,and stock axles. Every thing would snap It sounds good though how much HP are you pumpin what about a lighter fly wheel I heard that if you go to light you loose revs when shifting, is it really worth buying a new one or a used

Thanks
Zoarette racing

SixtySecondAssassin · 02-20-2003, 08:48 PM

the power gained with that crank isnt going to break things. it only adds about a tenth of a liter of displacement. the power gained depends on what rod/piston combo you use. i dont know if you can use the b16 rods, they might be too long.

**zoarette** · 02-20-2003, 08:54 PM

O thanks, A B18C5 intake manifold would fit my B16 right? or would it be better to get a JG edlebrock, skunk, toda, or JDM

SixtySecondAssassin · 02-20-2003, 09:07 PM

yes the type r maifold will bolt up. i think the skunk2 and the type r are pretty similar. the others you mentioned are pretty extreme and i dont personally know how they perform or if the are suitable for street.

02-11-2003, 11:59 PM	#3
Havok Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 6,825 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 83	Woo Woo! VTEC!, genius! __________________ My skin is singed but it heals my heart and with glowing pride I'll wear my scars. I'm honored by your hatred! She wanted love, I taste of blood. She bit my lip and drank my warmth from years before.

02-12-2003, 12:03 AM	#4
mwasnp Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hopkins, MN Posts: 275 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	First thing you can do is to spell better and I doubt cams are going to get you 16 whp, although I wouldnt doubt the manufacturer told you that. If you really want to make your car faster turbo it, or send your block in to be bored out, and maybe get some different rods to increase your stroke. That would get you to a 2.0l. If you have the money I would do a turbo kit as well as that. But turbo is expensive. To do it right you are looking at around $5k including tuning, to do it cheaply (low power gains, like 75 hp or so) maybe $3k, and for massive power gains, $15k or more. All about what you want out of it, and you only get out what you put in. Look around on the board there is alot to learn here, and then if there is something you can't find ask questions. But do look first chances are its already been asked. __________________ 1990 CRX DX in the works, ls swap now running IN CAR! RDM ownz JOOOO!!!!!!!!!

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02-11-2003, 10:39 PM	#1
Zoarette-racing Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Wasup, I was wondering what to do to make more power out of my B16. I might build an ls/vtech or b20 I dont know what to do or should i keep my 16 and raise the compression cause its a 1.6. What about cams i heard only 16 whp. What should I do for I/H/E (intake,header,exhuast) and if I build a b20 will my axel be ok THANKS, Zoarette racing team

02-16-2003, 05:48 PM	#7
jjay Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	sorry but i dont think that thats a b16 /ls i dont see a vtec selenoid and the cell phone is a good cover up on the valve cover

02-17-2003, 04:32 PM	#9
pills_PMD Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New Albany, OH Posts: 4,262 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 01 is300, 05 s2000, 03 rx300 Rep Power: 57

02-17-2003, 10:13 PM	#12
liquid00meth Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Laconia, NH Posts: 3,201 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 47	By the way, does zorette racing have any open spots? I mean, I don't have VTECH or a 2.0L b16, but hey, I will try to keep up with you guys at the track. __________________ "Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." -The thought provoking George W. Bush

02-18-2003, 02:36 AM	#13
ventolin5 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: longmont, co Posts: 219 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 16	ouch!! u guys are harsh!!

02-20-2003, 11:27 AM	#14
zoarette Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	OOps Thanks for the info, but what about super charging it so i can get some good low end power. What about a hytech header I've heard a lot of good things about them, Thanks Zoarette racing

02-20-2003, 12:58 PM	#15
spicdaddy1507 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Btw, it's probally impossible to get a B16 to 2.0 lt.....Since EVEN if you sleeve the block, the biggest bore you can get out of it is 84 mm or you'll start thinning out the water passages thus cracking the cylinder walls in the long run....Besides that, the only other thing you can do to increase the displacement would be to increase the stroke, since the deck height of the B16 and B17 are alike, you can swap a B17 crank into the B16 motor and use B17 rods to increase your stroke without running into piston to valve problems....I did the same setup in my ride....I had to do all the research so I talked to AEBS professionals and to some of the local shops who do this kind of stuff every day, and most come up with 100 different viewpoints....But I say upgrading your B16 will be worth it.....Mostly because the R/S will be better than any other block you work on guarenteed.

02-20-2003, 08:42 PM	#16
zoarette Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	If I Do swap the B17 crank into my 16, Wont I have to much low end power cause Im still running stock clutch ,and stock axles. Every thing would snap It sounds good though how much HP are you pumpin what about a lighter fly wheel I heard that if you go to light you loose revs when shifting, is it really worth buying a new one or a used Thanks Zoarette racing

02-20-2003, 08:48 PM	#17
SixtySecondAssassin Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,071 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 25	the power gained with that crank isnt going to break things. it only adds about a tenth of a liter of displacement. the power gained depends on what rod/piston combo you use. i dont know if you can use the b16 rods, they might be too long. __________________ .....deagle.....

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zoarette Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 16 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	O thanks, A B18C5 intake manifold would fit my B16 right? or would it be better to get a JG edlebrock, skunk, toda, or JDM

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SixtySecondAssassin Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,071 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 25	yes the type r maifold will bolt up. i think the skunk2 and the type r are pretty similar. the others you mentioned are pretty extreme and i dont personally know how they perform or if the are suitable for street. __________________ .....deagle.....

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