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littlehatch · 12-23-2003, 02:24 AM

ok i've looked and read and i can't find the same thing anywhere. i want to know what the deal is with the b16 stroke. can it be made to 2.1 like the b18c? i know that they have kits for 1.8 or 1.9? i'm looking for 2.1 lol

thanks for any help

Sergey P.A. · 12-23-2003, 02:29 AM

with allot of $$$ every ting is posible,

and you will need to sleeve this shit too...

2000Si · 12-23-2003, 02:37 AM

You could probably bore it to 2.1, but you'd have to resleeve it pretty thick if you plan on boosting it, which would end up dropping displacement down again.

b16ahatch · 12-23-2003, 02:38 AM

I know this is a little off subject but ERL makes a pretty bad ass block (1.9) fully assembles for around 3 grand i think. You might wanna check that out.

Sergey P.A. · 12-23-2003, 02:40 AM

boring out a B16.....

I don't see it.....

jest get a B18c and play with it if you have money to bore a B16 to 2.1

and you don't neet to bore a B16 to 2.1 to make it fast, = faster than it is,

B16 lack of torque, I don't like that....

jest get a B20 block, I will make it easier on you, and on your wallet....

b16ahatch · 12-23-2003, 02:55 AM

hmm my b16 makes 240ft lbs , but then again im boosted

Sergey P.A. · 12-23-2003, 02:58 AM

what kind of boost you running, what kar, how much it cost you?

and what's you quarter mile.......

?

b16ahatch · 12-23-2003, 02:59 AM

15 psi, 94 cx hatchback, $ a lot and quarter mile time 12.5

2000Si · 12-23-2003, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by b16ahatch@Dec 23 2003, 02:59 AM
15 psi, 94 cx hatchback, $ a lot and quarter mile time 12.5

12.5 with a boosted B16 in a 94cx hatch?

Go kill a couple of crappy drivers in a 03 SVTs and 03 Z06s :P

b16ahatch · 12-23-2003, 03:05 AM

i feel stupid, i just read in your sig that you changed your name. I cant keep up with you guys anymore

And thanks for the props,most people dont realize the time effort and money it takes to get to where im at

Sergey P.A. · 12-23-2003, 03:11 AM

sweet....

littlehatch · 12-23-2003, 03:12 AM

guys all motor for me. see i can't decide what to do for my setup. the b16 is cheap to get and i've seen them done correctly and can make power. i wanted to stroke or bore b/c of the fact that it lacks torque. either that or get a b16a head and get a itr bottom end and do that but idk b/c idk if it's worth the money. i could build the b16 better for the same price just about. am i right? any thoughts?

thanks for any help again

2000Si · 12-23-2003, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by b16ahatch@Dec 23 2003, 03:05 AM
i feel stupid, i just read in your sig that you changed your name. I cant keep up with you guys anymore

And thanks for the props,most people dont realize the time effort and money it takes to get to where im at

haha not too many people paid attention to that. I dig your setup. I have nothin but respect for people who do those types of things...

littlehatch · 12-23-2003, 03:14 AM

oh yeah i almost forgot. exactly how much are we talking to resleeve?

2000Si · 12-23-2003, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by littlehatch@Dec 23 2003, 03:14 AM
oh yeah i almost forgot. exactly how much are we talking to resleeve?

Depends on the shop you take it to. I had a quote for my Escorts 1.8 to have it bored to 2.1 and resleeved as a 2.0 quoted around 350-400 bucks or so for a magnaflux, bore, & resleeve job.

b16ahatch · 12-23-2003, 03:16 AM

i paid 80 per sleeve( Darton sleeves) and 500 to the machine shop to do it, but thats not a enclosed deck

littlehatch · 12-23-2003, 03:28 AM

yeah i was looking at darton. do you think it's the good choice?

damn man maybe a itr or h22 swap lol

K2e2vin · 12-23-2003, 03:41 AM

i dont care how much money you have you will never be able to get a b16 to 2.1 with a new bore. you will have to stroke it with the rebore and maybe weld a deck extension plate on. largest bore you can probally run on the b-blocks is about 84.5mm for boosted applications. this will get you to is about 1728cc. in order to get to 2.1L you will need a 95mm crank(2131cc). with the 95mm crank in the b16 you will have a rod ratio of about 1.32(125mm rods)--pretty shitty; thus the need to get the deck plate.

12-23-2003, 02:29 AM	#2
Sergey P.A. Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 253 Tacoma Posts: 407 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	with allot of $$$ every ting is posible, and you will need to sleeve this shit too... __________________ I am a simple man with a simple mind</div><table border=\'0\' align=\'center\' width=\'95%\' cellpadding=\'3\' cellspacing=\'1\'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id=\'QUOTE\'></td></tr></table><div class=\'signature\'>

12-23-2003, 02:38 AM	#4
b16ahatch Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 282 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	I know this is a little off subject but ERL makes a pretty bad ass block (1.9) fully assembles for around 3 grand i think. You might wanna check that out. __________________ 94 cx hatchback mods exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v, future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

12-23-2003, 02:40 AM	#5
Sergey P.A. Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 253 Tacoma Posts: 407 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	boring out a B16..... I don't see it..... jest get a B18c and play with it if you have money to bore a B16 to 2.1 and you don't neet to bore a B16 to 2.1 to make it fast, = faster than it is, B16 lack of torque, I don't like that.... jest get a B20 block, I will make it easier on you, and on your wallet.... __________________ I am a simple man with a simple mind</div><table border=\'0\' align=\'center\' width=\'95%\' cellpadding=\'3\' cellspacing=\'1\'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id=\'QUOTE\'></td></tr></table><div class=\'signature\'>

12-23-2003, 02:55 AM	#6
b16ahatch Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 282 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	hmm my b16 makes 240ft lbs , but then again im boosted __________________ 94 cx hatchback mods exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v, future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

12-23-2003, 02:58 AM	#7
Sergey P.A. Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 253 Tacoma Posts: 407 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	what kind of boost you running, what kar, how much it cost you? and what's you quarter mile....... ? __________________ I am a simple man with a simple mind</div><table border=\'0\' align=\'center\' width=\'95%\' cellpadding=\'3\' cellspacing=\'1\'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id=\'QUOTE\'></td></tr></table><div class=\'signature\'>


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12-23-2003, 02:24 AM	#1
littlehatch Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 52 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 13	ok i've looked and read and i can't find the same thing anywhere. i want to know what the deal is with the b16 stroke. can it be made to 2.1 like the b18c? i know that they have kits for 1.8 or 1.9? i'm looking for 2.1 lol thanks for any help

12-23-2003, 02:59 AM	#8
b16ahatch Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 282 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	15 psi, 94 cx hatchback, $ a lot and quarter mile time 12.5 __________________ 94 cx hatchback mods exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v, future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

12-23-2003, 03:05 AM	#10
b16ahatch Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 282 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	i feel stupid, i just read in your sig that you changed your name. I cant keep up with you guys anymore And thanks for the props,most people dont realize the time effort and money it takes to get to where im at __________________ 94 cx hatchback mods exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v, future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

12-23-2003, 03:11 AM	#11
Sergey P.A. Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 253 Tacoma Posts: 407 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	sweet.... __________________ I am a simple man with a simple mind</div><table border=\'0\' align=\'center\' width=\'95%\' cellpadding=\'3\' cellspacing=\'1\'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id=\'QUOTE\'></td></tr></table><div class=\'signature\'>

12-23-2003, 03:12 AM	#12
littlehatch Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 52 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 13	guys all motor for me. see i can't decide what to do for my setup. the b16 is cheap to get and i've seen them done correctly and can make power. i wanted to stroke or bore b/c of the fact that it lacks torque. either that or get a b16a head and get a itr bottom end and do that but idk b/c idk if it's worth the money. i could build the b16 better for the same price just about. am i right? any thoughts? thanks for any help again

12-23-2003, 03:14 AM	#14
littlehatch Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 52 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 13	oh yeah i almost forgot. exactly how much are we talking to resleeve?

12-23-2003, 03:16 AM	#16
b16ahatch Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 282 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 17	i paid 80 per sleeve( Darton sleeves) and 500 to the machine shop to do it, but thats not a enclosed deck __________________ 94 cx hatchback mods exterior- si wheels rapped in falken azenis, carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber wing, projector head lights, si paint job and m3 mirrors under the hood - b16 sir2 swap, clucth masters stage 3 clutch,act lightend flywheel, eagle rods, arias pistons, darton sleeves, rc 370cc injectors, msd plug wires,jackson racing fuel pump, apexi avcr and vafc, thrermal 3 inch turbo exhaust, 3 inch down pipe, auto tecknic fuel rail, b and m fuel pressure regulator,aem cam gears, turbonetics t3/t4e turbo, spearco fron mount intercooler, greedy type s b.o.v, future mods- crane 2 step rev limiter igniton system, pnp head, crower valve train, and a apexi power fc.

12-23-2003, 03:28 AM	#17
littlehatch Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 52 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 13	yeah i was looking at darton. do you think it's the good choice? damn man maybe a itr or h22 swap lol

12-23-2003, 03:41 AM	#18
K2e2vin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 22 Posts: 6,358 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 88 Honda Civic HB Rep Power: 150	i dont care how much money you have you will never be able to get a b16 to 2.1 with a new bore. you will have to stroke it with the rebore and maybe weld a deck extension plate on. largest bore you can probally run on the b-blocks is about 84.5mm for boosted applications. this will get you to is about 1728cc. in order to get to 2.1L you will need a 95mm crank(2131cc). with the 95mm crank in the b16 you will have a rod ratio of about 1.32(125mm rods)--pretty shitty; thus the need to get the deck plate. __________________ 1988 Honda Civic Standard-more mods than I want to list 1992 Honda Accord LX 1996 Toyota Avalon-Spun bearing, for sale. Terrorists have successfully attacked our imagination. RIP Jon Eban Nie, August 31, 1991 - May 7, 2006 Y-Daniel Siu Eban, September 7, 1986 - May 7, 2006

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