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haha...yeah. It is quite long, but that's the beauty of it. It's full of DETAILS! That wire tuck in itself was a thing of beauty. I have great admiration for him and God help me, which I knew people like him around Orlando. Ah, I need a life and friends. *bows head in shame* Thank God for you cats and your wealth of knowledge...even if sometimes when you give your expert/experienced advice people choose to ignore it and blow their shit up. haha That just cracks me up.

On a personal accomplishment note, I just fried four eggs and only cracked one yoke.

90_EF_Hatch

sorry for random post. but you crack me up bahahahaha.

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we have several members in FL.. i think formby is from Orlando

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Well Scott, I have yet to see you steer anyone wrong...except for the guy that I saw, last night I believe whom you gave advice to and he totally ignored you. You said something about "if you want to blow your engine up" and God help me if I can't remember the rest. HAHA! He completely blew by what you said and went the complete opposite direction. That guy was a FOOL! *picks up phone* I think it's time to place an order. I'll let you know how it turns out. Oh, the guy was British or something 'cause he typed with an accent. Actually, he said he was from England or something like that if that helps you remember.

Random post away. I randomly walk through the house, sit in the corner, hold my knees, rock back and forth and chant "can't sleep, clowns will eat me....can't sleep, clowns will eat me...can't sleep, clowns will eat me...can't sleep..." so it's all right with me.

I've seen him posting in Andrew's thread. I would be too ashamed to show anyone my car now as it has...well, it's been through hell the past couple of years. Back in 2000 it got stolen, Christmas of 2005 it got broken into when I ran into some bad luck and the head was screwed, so it sat there, battery died killing the alarm and they stole my head unit, then three days later they stole my subs. Fast forward to a year later in January of 2007 and they stole my amps, farad cap and yeah...lets just say that because of all of this shit I'm scared to even keep my car cleaned. When they stole my car they scraped up my rims and the insurance company didn't cover it. Eh....that's it for now.

Luis998

What do you guys know about "Scat" rods? These wouldn't be for this build, but rather for my side Z6 project, which will most likely get set aside until the B is done. I'm still thinking I should go with Eagles either way.

eg6sir

well i know scat is another term for animal shit.. haha

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One says good and the other says animal shit. haha! Lets do it this way...and I'm getting off subject from my head build a little, but rate these rods...from your own personal experience and knowledge. Feel free to add any other rods to the mix....
Eagle, Scat, TunerToys, DennisRODman, etc. etc. Scott, I KNOW you mentioned some other rods before, and I can't for the life of me remember their name. *smacks head into keyboard* Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. ...

Luis998

LMMFAO! Now THAT is some funny shit.

eg6sir

i wasnt stating the rods were crap .. hahha.. i know nothing about them.. i just remember the term scat from Camp Keep .. haha

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newb

maybe carillo or pauter (spelling?) rods would be worth rating too.

j-salas

its good that it already has eagle rods its worth the price why dont you try JE pistons?

Luis998

haha! Have you had any experience with Scat...and not the porn but the rods?

YES! That deserves a rep point. *grins* I know that Blanco (aka the Don Juan of HS) talked about Pauter and I'm thinking Carillo before too. I just couldn't remember the name of the damn thing. Gracias my friend.

I'm thinking I'll stick with Eagle on both builds, Scott. If I should run into a great deal, like I did with this block and rod combo, then I'll be all over it like a fat kid on cake. I refuse to sacrifice quality on my build and I'm thinking that going with Eagle Rods on both builds is NOT a sacrifice in any way. Especially for my power goals.
Eh, I'd try JE, but I'm going to end up going with CP. The reason being, and I learned this from Blanco (you know Scott, I should be paying you royalties everytime I quote you haha) that they expand the least out of all other pistons. Hence, these will be safer, or so I would guess from that statement. I'm not downing JE at all, as I considered them as well before. I really do appreciate the suggestions from everyone. Feel free to keep them coming all....just don't make me shoot you in the face with a bazooka for being a doof.

Luis998

UPDATE! I am now the proud father of a umm, fifty pound (I'm guessing the weight here) baby JDM B16 block, complete, except for the alternator, and comes with Eagle Rods! :sh ocked::w00 t: (yes, I am going through all of these emotions right now, as I have not yet had my "medication" today) The voices are ecstatic.

Question! Amongst all of my happiness, I learned from my quasi-mechanic friend/the supplier of both the D engine and B block which I own now, that it may not be a good idea to go with Skunk2 stage 2 turbo cams. The reason, he says, is because they're too "heavy" (I'm not really sure what he means by that. Maybe he was smoking a funny looking cigarette at the time.) and they won't make as much power as an "all motor" cam, such as a Crower. Now then, since I have not decided which cams to go with, seeing how I am all of a sudden confused, which cams would be best to a) accomplish my goals and b) will give me more power, especially for the money. Ready, set, GO!

Luis998

Thanks, Scott. That's what my "rookie" ass was thinking too. It really scares me that he told me that, because he has built up engines before. Is there a slightly more aggressive cam than the Skunk2 which would help make more power before the turbo kicked in, or should I just stick with my plan?

Luis998

:worth yp: God bless you for the knowledge. I'm going to go beat the shit out of my friend for misinforming me. Don't worry though, when he asks why I'm doing it, I'll tell him that Blanco made me do it. Either that or the fact that I'm not one to blow up my engine by using parts recommended to me by uninformed....

Either that or I'll just teach him the ways instead. Though randomly beating his ass with a wet noodle sounds more fun. haha Hmm, this could have a downside though. I'll stick to teaching him instead.

Luis998

What is the difference in quality between Omni Power and PortFlow, Toda, Buddy Club, and JUN valve trains? I was also looking at different cams like Toda, Buddy Club , and JUN, trying to compare them to the Skunk2's I want and trying to figure out the difference between them. Sonofa...I feel like I want to learn too much at times.Also, any recommendations on valves and whether they should be oversized or not? If so, should they be .5 or 1.0 oversized?

Luis998

I'm really grateful for that article, Scott. Anytime you wish to post anymore information like that here, please feel free to do so. I try and save the information you pass to others and let me tell you, when it gets to the day when everything is completed, I'll definitely know how to break-in my engine properly.

There's nothing wrong in being thrifty. I'm the same way, that is why I ask questions about different makes. I also do not want to throw my money away in a bunch of crap (like an under drive pulley without a harmonic balancer) that I don't need, just looks cool or is, and I am so going to quote you here "blow your engine up." haha PortFlow seems like the best bang for my buck as far as valve train goes, though I may end up using Omni Power on my D build.

Knowing what you know about the S2's cam profile (which by the way, if you could define what cam profile is exactly, I would greatly appreciate it) would you suggest using over sized valves? If so, would they be .5 or 1.0 over size? Also, which valves would be able to handle what I would be putting out safely and won't snap like a twig? Do you think that there are "better" cams for my application as well? I'm going to re-read that article and see if by doing that and comparing different cams, if there are any better cams.

I'm also going to print my entire thread out (I know, it's kind of dorky) and read it at work. That way I can go over the things we have all covered in my head and when I get home, I can dive back into the realm, researching the hell out of everything. Thanks again.

philyphreak2127

what is wrong with obx valvetrain? a buddy of mine just had his set in his b16 head for his crv/vtec build. But personally I would rather go with Skunk2. But thanks for the mention of Omni Power being decent for d-series builds looks like I have another contender for when I replace my cam.

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care to explain? don't have any experience with obx. is it basically like APC just for the internals of a motor?

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Luis998

I've read the same thing about OBX. Whenever I get to the point of choosing, say my intake manifold, I will perhaps consider going with an ITR or perhaps an AEBS. That's something for another day though, as I am still figuring out everything else. Scott, have you heard anything about AEBS's manifolds? Or anyone else in fact. This isn't part of the head build, and I have been trying to stay away from talking about the block build, but I should be receiving a nice Walbro 255 fuel pump in a few days. That will complement whichever injectors I end up using on my build. I'm contemplating 440cc, but I am not that far yet. I ran into a "problem" and reading/research is going to be the most I will be able to do. However, I do have plenty of patience, so everything is okay there. I do not believe in rushing whatsoever. I'm still pondering on which valves I should use. As soon as I am using my own computer again (the cable company came by today and said something about the entire "system" being down) I will be able to upload some pre hot tanking head pictures. They're not going to be anything spectacular, as all B16 heads look the same. I think that's it for now. I'm kind of down because of the "road block" I was unfortunate enough to run into, but never the less, I will use this time positively to learn more and do more research.

Here's something that I am not sure about at all. I know that my head is OBD2. With that said, is it possible to use an OBD1 distributor instead of an OBD2? My guess is that it will not fit. I had this conversation with a guy at school and he COMPLETELY screwed my mind up about it. I may end up putting this build in my EK when I'm done, which is OBD2, though the temptation will be there, I'm sure, to put it in my EG. However, the D will be nice too once it is done and will drop right in to the EG.

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what is wrong with obx valvetrain? a buddy of mine just had his set in his b16 head for his crv/vtec build. But personally I would rather go with Skunk2. But thanks for the mention of Omni Power being decent for d-series builds looks like I have another contender for when I replace my cam.

If anyone can find the link for Omni Power D-series valve train, please let me know. I have only been able to locate B-series thus far.

By the way, Scott, my "noodle" has been wrapped around every link you have posted so far. Thanks once again and keep the information coming.

Luis998

Awesome man. Now I just have to re-find the site where I found the AEBS for sale for the lowest price. It's a really sweet looking manifold, seeing how, if I remember correctly, all the hoses are on the bottom side, making it look clean on top.

Guess what, Scott? Now it's time for me to spend more time doing something at least you know I love to do, reading and researching about an OBD2 to OBD1 head conversion. I wonder if it is going to be as simple as switching out the distributor. It's a good thing I don't rush into things, because if I did, I would have already bought the matching OBD2 distributor and never had the chance to give this a shot. It was being sold for a good price but eh, I have the patience and don't mind taking my time in looking for other options. OBD1 is my final goal overall. I wonder if a P28 would work with this set up or whether a P72 would be better called for. The reason being is that when I bought another Z6 swap this past weekend to work on, the guy that sold it to me included the P28 with the swap. Needless to say spending a total of $200 dollars on everything seemed like a steal. Hell, I just wanted the head. haha

Man, I'm telling you, I can't express my gratitude enough to you. If I win the lottery, you'll know about my gratitude because it will materialize itself in your drive way. haha People at work keep on asking me about the things I print and read and I just tell them that it's all "classified information from Blanco on Honda Swap." Yes, I do get weird looks, then I explain that it's information someone has been kind enough to point me towards, which I am taking full advantage of. Keep it coming!

Luis998

You know, I could just go for convenience and get an OBD2 to OBD1 harness and be done with it, but then I wouldn't learn anything new and be able to teach someone else something they might be pondering about. We'll see what time and money allows.

I'm so glad I got that P28, as I will be using a P28 in both of my builds. I'm getting the first one installed in my EG tomorrow. It's chipped with a basic map burned to it. I must confess that I have YET to know what VTEC feels like in my car, as I have NEVER had an ECU with VTEC capabilities in it yet. *bows head in shame* It's also another shame that my Z6 doesn't have the proper tranny bolted to it yet. The first swap done to my EG was engine only, meaning that I kept the stock tranny in it. However, I did get a '95 Si tranny for it, which will get installed in the near future. Amen for proper transmissions. haha

*takes a deep breath* This has been quite an exciting and overwhelming learning experience thus far, and I have yet to even crack the tip of the iceberg. I'll tell you what though, both the D and B swaps (I still haven't gotten a tranny for the B, but that's for later on in the thread) look really pretty sitting here. haha The other D I speak of is a Z6 swap that will most likely end up in my EK.

Luis998

So what you're really saying is to completely disregard your advice, hack up my harness, match it up with an incompatible distributor and pray to God it doesn't blow up, after wiring backwards, and repeat the process on my other engine? Okay, SWEET! I'll do that right now!

Realistically, I'm thinking the OBD2 to OBD1 conversion harness will be the easiest and most economical way to go. That and I have only run into fifty GAZILLION OBD2 distributors as of late, so saying that they're hard to find would be an overstatement.

I'm really considering building up the D and putting it in the EG to keep things simple, then put the B in the EK. The beauty of it all is that I don't have to come to that decision until everything is finished...something that is going to be quite a challenge because of the recent "bump" in the road I have run in to. Then again, looking at it from the perspective of my completion goal and time, everything should work out just fine. I could always sell my ass in the corner, but I just don't think I could deal with the rejection, or the fact that people would pay me to put it back on.

Luis998

Now that I've decided to go with Skunk2's stage 2 turbo cams, which valves would work best with that cam profile? I'm still debating on what part to order first too. I've thought about ordering the cams first, which I believe these are the ones I want for my build, but am wondering if I should get the valves and valve train first. Suggestions as to what would be, if there truly is, the smartest part to start with?

Luis998

*in his best Chinese accent* Oh, so sorry masta. What I should have asked is what we were talking about before, which is over sized valves. That's where you told me I might have issues. How would I be able to tell what I can use with my S2's?

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