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Justin66 · 08-02-2008, 09:45 AM

I just bought Skunk2 stage 1 tuner cams, mainly cause i have a limited budget especially to buy and install springs and retainers (not that i dont want to). I was wondering if it would be benificial to also buy their adjustable cam gears as well. Being lighter weight would help and would be easier to time, but would it be worth it for stage 1's? I dont have a problem with buying them but i just wanna know if its a waste or not?

carlo · 08-02-2008, 10:55 AM

even with stock cams its good to have acg to well tune your engine and squiz some ponys out of it

Calesta · 08-02-2008, 11:03 AM

Yes, it's a good idea to get adjustable gears. You won't really see gains on a stock setup, but with aftermarket cams and a tune, you'll see a world of difference.

Justin66 · 08-02-2008, 01:09 PM

Got ya. Since its N/A keeping matched with the same brand is a good idea. Match the skunk2 cams with skunk2 gears?

Calesta · 08-02-2008, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin66

Got ya. Since its N/A keeping matched with the same brand is a good idea. Match the skunk2 cams with skunk2 gears?

Actually, it doesn't really matter. There's no reason to keep everything "matching" for functionality's sake- it's all vanity. Skunk2 does make good cam gears though.

Justin66 · 08-02-2008, 06:13 PM

I have heard that, but also ive heard good and bad about their cams, researching it and they seem great. They are in alot of magazines like Modified and they are reliable. Some have told me they fail or break all the time.

Calesta · 08-03-2008, 04:16 AM

You have to take that with a grain of salt. Improper installation, bad parts combination, bad tuning... it can all make a specific part seem bad when it really isn't.

efhondakid · 08-03-2008, 04:20 AM

Any aftermarket cam should come with a spec sheet that tells you what gears should be advanced/retarded to to get the most out of the cams.

carlo · 08-03-2008, 12:30 PM

go dyno man thats the way you will know for sure and get an ecu to mess with your maps if you are not sure how to do it get a pro the help you thats the way to go

carlo · 08-03-2008, 12:36 PM

personal i`ll go with blox or just get itr internals they are high lift cams and they have dual spring its a pretty good set-up ooohhh and get the itr v-tec solenoid to hear scream that thing

Justin66 · 08-03-2008, 03:14 PM

What would the solenoid change, i figured all the dohc vtec engines had the same solenoids?

Calesta · 08-03-2008, 03:38 PM

Yes, they all need a normal VTEC solenoid to activate VTEC. There's no difference between them. An ITR solenoid won't do anything different for you than any other VTEC solenoid.

Blanco · 08-03-2008, 05:27 PM

There's no point in buying aftermarket cams if you aren't going to tune them and there's no way to tune them without adjustable cam gears. They aren't a bunch of individual pieces, they all interrelate like pieces of a puzzle.

Keeping things the same brand applies mostly to cams and valve springs. The reason is that a manufacturer's valve springs are already matched to their cams. You can use any reputable brand combination you want as long as the valve springs have the proper seat pressure. Too little means you'll float a valve because of coil bind and blow up your engine. Too much pressure means that the cams will have to work harder to open the valves which leads to increased wear and tear and often times a broken cam shaft...which completely destroys the entire engine.

Here are the basics: HowStuffWorks "Internal Combustion"

Justin66 · 08-03-2008, 07:37 PM

Makes sense. Ill get the gears, it was my plan anyway. Since i wont be using aftermarket springs or retainers is there any big risk to using this cam? Again i wont be taking the car any past 8k anyway and its still the stock rev limiter, the springs can handle it?

Blanco · 08-03-2008, 07:44 PM

Don't rev over the stock limit until you at least get ITR springs and you'll be fine.

Justin66 · 08-03-2008, 07:48 PM

Ok thanks Blanco its keeping my paranoia down. I dont take the car past 8k at anytime really, Unless im not paying attention. Cam gears will be on the way soon.

carlo · 08-06-2008, 01:46 PM

hey about the dolenoide dont ask way but itr intrnals in your b16 head screams for some reason like i said its a good set up it maches your stage 1 cams and they are stock

Justin66 · 08-06-2008, 06:35 PM

If i ever have to do a head gasket change ill be sure to get itr springs, something to better keep up. Other than these cams i dont intend on anymore internals. Maybe a rail+injectors, TB, now that i have cams. Better rad (fins starting to flake off), maybe new intake manifold. Should be good now. Then the rest is to maintain the car. Just a nice high flowing B16.

Blanco · 08-06-2008, 07:59 PM

Carlo, please know what you're talking about before you give advice.

If you plan on changing the springs anyway, you might as well get aftermarket springs for your aftermarket cams. Changing the solenoid won't do anything for performance unless the one on your engine isn't working properly. You don't even remotely need a new fuel rail or injectors for your goals...unless you're replacing worn out OEM units with new OEM units. If you want an aftermarket intake manifold, Skunk2 is going to be your best bet other than the ITR manifold it was designed after.

Justin66 · 08-06-2008, 10:21 PM

Ya i was lookin at Skunk2 for the mani. Since the fuel wont seem to help any will a TB help?

Calesta · 08-06-2008, 10:27 PM

Not much.

08-02-2008, 09:45 AM	#1
Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Peterborough, Ontario Age: 22 Posts: 981 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1990 Intergra GS/XSi Rep Power: 27	Cam gears? I just bought Skunk2 stage 1 tuner cams, mainly cause i have a limited budget especially to buy and install springs and retainers (not that i dont want to). I was wondering if it would be benificial to also buy their adjustable cam gears as well. Being lighter weight would help and would be easier to time, but would it be worth it for stage 1's? I dont have a problem with buying them but i just wanna know if its a waste or not? __________________ 90 Integra GS/ XSi - JDM B16A SiR2 w/ full exhaust & short ram - J1 Tranny - Skunk2 stage 1 cams & gears (not installed yet) - H & R lowering springs - Rear strut bar and front camber kit - HKS Hi-Power exhaust - Powersteering removed - JDM 1-piece headlights & sidemarkers - Optima RedT relocated to rear XBOX LIVE: JustinE66

08-02-2008, 11:03 AM	#3
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lufkin, TX Age: 31 Posts: 23,883 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 265	Yes, it's a good idea to get adjustable gears. You won't really see gains on a stock setup, but with aftermarket cams and a tune, you'll see a world of difference. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

08-02-2008, 01:09 PM	#4
Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Peterborough, Ontario Age: 22 Posts: 981 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1990 Intergra GS/XSi Rep Power: 27	Got ya. Since its N/A keeping matched with the same brand is a good idea. Match the skunk2 cams with skunk2 gears? __________________ 90 Integra GS/ XSi - JDM B16A SiR2 w/ full exhaust & short ram - J1 Tranny - Skunk2 stage 1 cams & gears (not installed yet) - H & R lowering springs - Rear strut bar and front camber kit - HKS Hi-Power exhaust - Powersteering removed - JDM 1-piece headlights & sidemarkers - Optima RedT relocated to rear XBOX LIVE: JustinE66

08-02-2008, 06:13 PM	#6
Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Peterborough, Ontario Age: 22 Posts: 981 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1990 Intergra GS/XSi Rep Power: 27	I have heard that, but also ive heard good and bad about their cams, researching it and they seem great. They are in alot of magazines like Modified and they are reliable. Some have told me they fail or break all the time. __________________ 90 Integra GS/ XSi - JDM B16A SiR2 w/ full exhaust & short ram - J1 Tranny - Skunk2 stage 1 cams & gears (not installed yet) - H & R lowering springs - Rear strut bar and front camber kit - HKS Hi-Power exhaust - Powersteering removed - JDM 1-piece headlights & sidemarkers - Optima RedT relocated to rear XBOX LIVE: JustinE66

08-03-2008, 04:16 AM	#7
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lufkin, TX Age: 31 Posts: 23,883 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 265	You have to take that with a grain of salt. Improper installation, bad parts combination, bad tuning... it can all make a specific part seem bad when it really isn't. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688


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08-02-2008, 10:55 AM	#2
carlo jdm spec Join Date: Jul 2008 Age: 23 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: da9 Rep Power: 0	even with stock cams its good to have acg to well tune your engine and squiz some ponys out of it

08-03-2008, 04:20 AM	#8
efhondakid My name is Byron. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Akron-Canton, Ohio Age: 19 Posts: 3,291 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: `89 DX Hatch w/JDM B16 Rep Power: 101	Any aftermarket cam should come with a spec sheet that tells you what gears should be advanced/retarded to to get the most out of the cams. __________________ Dont PM me with tech questions. I will not answer them. Looking for a P28 and B-series turbo parts, PM me.

08-03-2008, 12:30 PM	#9
carlo jdm spec Join Date: Jul 2008 Age: 23 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: da9 Rep Power: 0	go dyno man thats the way you will know for sure and get an ecu to mess with your maps if you are not sure how to do it get a pro the help you thats the way to go

08-03-2008, 12:36 PM	#10
carlo jdm spec Join Date: Jul 2008 Age: 23 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: da9 Rep Power: 0	personal i`ll go with blox or just get itr internals they are high lift cams and they have dual spring its a pretty good set-up ooohhh and get the itr v-tec solenoid to hear scream that thing

08-03-2008, 03:14 PM	#11
Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Peterborough, Ontario Age: 22 Posts: 981 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1990 Intergra GS/XSi Rep Power: 27	What would the solenoid change, i figured all the dohc vtec engines had the same solenoids? __________________ 90 Integra GS/ XSi - JDM B16A SiR2 w/ full exhaust & short ram - J1 Tranny - Skunk2 stage 1 cams & gears (not installed yet) - H & R lowering springs - Rear strut bar and front camber kit - HKS Hi-Power exhaust - Powersteering removed - JDM 1-piece headlights & sidemarkers - Optima RedT relocated to rear XBOX LIVE: JustinE66

08-03-2008, 03:38 PM	#12
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lufkin, TX Age: 31 Posts: 23,883 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 265	Yes, they all need a normal VTEC solenoid to activate VTEC. There's no difference between them. An ITR solenoid won't do anything different for you than any other VTEC solenoid. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

08-03-2008, 07:37 PM	#14
Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Peterborough, Ontario Age: 22 Posts: 981 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1990 Intergra GS/XSi Rep Power: 27	Makes sense. Ill get the gears, it was my plan anyway. Since i wont be using aftermarket springs or retainers is there any big risk to using this cam? Again i wont be taking the car any past 8k anyway and its still the stock rev limiter, the springs can handle it? __________________ 90 Integra GS/ XSi - JDM B16A SiR2 w/ full exhaust & short ram - J1 Tranny - Skunk2 stage 1 cams & gears (not installed yet) - H & R lowering springs - Rear strut bar and front camber kit - HKS Hi-Power exhaust - Powersteering removed - JDM 1-piece headlights & sidemarkers - Optima RedT relocated to rear XBOX LIVE: JustinE66

08-03-2008, 07:48 PM	#16
Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Peterborough, Ontario Age: 22 Posts: 981 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1990 Intergra GS/XSi Rep Power: 27	Ok thanks Blanco its keeping my paranoia down. I dont take the car past 8k at anytime really, Unless im not paying attention. Cam gears will be on the way soon. __________________ 90 Integra GS/ XSi - JDM B16A SiR2 w/ full exhaust & short ram - J1 Tranny - Skunk2 stage 1 cams & gears (not installed yet) - H & R lowering springs - Rear strut bar and front camber kit - HKS Hi-Power exhaust - Powersteering removed - JDM 1-piece headlights & sidemarkers - Optima RedT relocated to rear XBOX LIVE: JustinE66

08-06-2008, 01:46 PM	#17
carlo jdm spec Join Date: Jul 2008 Age: 23 Posts: 8 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: da9 Rep Power: 0	hey about the dolenoide dont ask way but itr intrnals in your b16 head screams for some reason like i said its a good set up it maches your stage 1 cams and they are stock

08-06-2008, 06:35 PM	#18
Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Peterborough, Ontario Age: 22 Posts: 981 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1990 Intergra GS/XSi Rep Power: 27	If i ever have to do a head gasket change ill be sure to get itr springs, something to better keep up. Other than these cams i dont intend on anymore internals. Maybe a rail+injectors, TB, now that i have cams. Better rad (fins starting to flake off), maybe new intake manifold. Should be good now. Then the rest is to maintain the car. Just a nice high flowing B16. __________________ 90 Integra GS/ XSi - JDM B16A SiR2 w/ full exhaust & short ram - J1 Tranny - Skunk2 stage 1 cams & gears (not installed yet) - H & R lowering springs - Rear strut bar and front camber kit - HKS Hi-Power exhaust - Powersteering removed - JDM 1-piece headlights & sidemarkers - Optima RedT relocated to rear XBOX LIVE: JustinE66

08-06-2008, 10:21 PM	#20
Justin66 The Hondaswap Canadian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Peterborough, Ontario Age: 22 Posts: 981 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 1990 Intergra GS/XSi Rep Power: 27	Ya i was lookin at Skunk2 for the mani. Since the fuel wont seem to help any will a TB help? __________________ 90 Integra GS/ XSi - JDM B16A SiR2 w/ full exhaust & short ram - J1 Tranny - Skunk2 stage 1 cams & gears (not installed yet) - H & R lowering springs - Rear strut bar and front camber kit - HKS Hi-Power exhaust - Powersteering removed - JDM 1-piece headlights & sidemarkers - Optima RedT relocated to rear XBOX LIVE: JustinE66

08-06-2008, 10:27 PM	#21
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Lufkin, TX Age: 31 Posts: 23,883 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 265	Not much. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

08-07-2008, 12:52 AM	#22
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