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Hi,
just wanted to know what the average cost for building a ls/vtec motor would be. Is 4000 about rite for a decient built ls/vtec?
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| Hi, just wanted to know what the average cost for building a ls/vtec motor would be. Is 4000 about rite for a decient built ls/vtec? Ac |
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| It really depends. What parts do you already have? What car is getting the engine? |
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| well lets see... ls block goes for like 400... ctr pistons 300....b16 head 450... and you might want to port and polish it(900). then some ctr camshafts 500....tranny... clutch all that.. hmmm that sounds about right.. to me |
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| a 900 dollar port and polish?? damn!!! |
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| i got a guy who said like 5 grand. but its fully built blue printed and balance bottom end and race pot and polised head. with type r manifold, ctr pistons, and type r tanny with lsd. he said mostly type r parts would be installed ie water and oil pump small stuff like that. is that a good deal? what else should i bee looking to get? |
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| wow.. 5000 for all OEM parts? for 5 g's expect to get aftermarket rods and pistons at least. balancing only costs about 200-300 if you know the right people too much |
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| hi, what should i be looking to pay for the set up i listed above? ac |
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| Hell my balance job cost me $120, I brought him my stuff and he said he didn't have to touch anything on the pistons or rods as they were well balanced to begin with and he had to remove a little of my crank. |
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| Importreview.com did a great article on this. I think its about 5000 in parts and labor with out the LS motor. If you want it done right remember cheap things end up haunting you 1/2 the times. |
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| All prices are about average, not as hearsay. LS block = 400 B16A head = 550** Hydro tranny = 650 *GSR/SIR Clutch = 300 Linkage = 100 Axles = 250 Engine harness = 150 *depends on OBD1 or OBD2 costs may be higher ECU = 250 *stock GSR or programmed P28 Pistons B16A = 25/ea *cannot use with aftermarket rods. Rings 81mm = 20/ea ARP rod bolts = 45 *for the LS rods if you are planing on using them. Pistons aftermarket = 425/set *comes with rings, can use on stock rods if machined. Rods = 350 *Eagles. They are the least expensive good rods, the factory LS rods will NOT handle revs over 8000 stock, and not over 9000 with ARP rod bolts. Don't cheap out here, these are the heart of your engine. Failure here can result in all your money lost. Rod bearings = 64 Head gasket = 55 Other misc gaskets for install = 100 (oil pan, camshaft, intake manifold, exhaust manifold, water pump, oil pump, etc, etc...) **Assuming the head came with intake manifold, dizzy, injectors, t-body, etc, etc..... I busted out some reciepts for machine work and labor costs from my stroked/bored GSR engine. Press pistons on - 60 Bore block, torque plate - 120 Balance crank, pistons, rods - 200 Shotpeen rods - 80 Port and polish head, intake manifold, exhaust manifold. All gasket matched - 950 Clean and tank head and block - 100 Now, I did all the assembly myself, so I saved major $$$$ over having someone else do it for me. So add it all up, then figure about 20% more just in case. You never know what you may run into when doing something like this.
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| whoa gsr tranny for 650! im a vendor and I cant even roll them up they are more like 750-1000. Most head will not come with intake manifold too. OEM B16a pistons are about 50 each. I dont quite remember. I had to buy some and it came out to 180-200.00. I could of gotten CTR alot cheaper but was in desperate need. |
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| i got .25mm over pr3 pistons with rings for 100 bucks |
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| new or used and where?! |
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| are new pistons a must??? |
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| I have seen cars run fine on LS pistons, you have to be careful with your cam gears and the cams you run. It just doesn't make any sense not to replace them. You have the engine apart already you migh as well go for more compression. |
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| brand new from "happycorepuppy" on hondavision. but i think it was an only set .. |
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| is it true that the b18 and b16 have the same bore but just different stroke. giving it more displacement |
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| yes |
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| heres a list of te costs of how much machine work ill cost me for my ls/vtec (PRices are in cdn) Shotpeen rods $60 Resize rods for arp bolts $75 ($10 for installation and $45 for the bolts) Hone block $50 Clean block, crank, rods $90 Rod/Piston alignment/press pin in $55 Polish Crank $50 balance bottom end (flywheel, crank, rods, pistons) $195 flywheel lighten $90 flywheel resurface $50 knife-edge crank - $180 The guy also says new HONDA rod/main bearings would cost $300+ !! arp head studs $80-100 |
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| B18 block gsr girdle spoon oil pump type r water pump (or gsr) Crower crank Eagle rods 12:6:1 Je srp pistons bored 81.5 with eagle sleeves golden eagle ls vtec kit b16 head port polished milled and hot tanked super tech valve springs titanium retainers (can do bronze valve guides but they wear out faster) buddy club spec IV cams skunk 2 pro series cam gears Toda timing belt (kevlar) Skunk 2 intake manifold skunk 2 fuel rail 310 RC injectors sard fuel pressure regulator walbro fuel pump blox throttle body with tps (throttle positioning system) password jdm intake carbon fiber b16 tranny short shifter act lightened flywheel act street racing clutch arp flywheel bolts iridium NGK spark plugs vision spark plug wires skunk 2 cam seal type R red valve cover carbon fiber spark plug cover p28 ecu skunk 2 oil cap password JDM magnetic oil and tranny plug buddy club header and test pipe RSR exhaust tein coilovers springs and shocks skunk 2 front and rear camber kits sustec front and rear strut bars ( i only need front and rear skunk2 lower control arms)( and I might get traction bars) (and if you really want to be crazy go itbs (individual throttle bodies)) Anyway this is my ls vtec build and it was expensive to say the least but done right damn right let me know what you think. |
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| I guess it's making a comeback! What about the cost of a stock B18B swap. Full motor, no mods, just the swap. Does it need different mounts and such. Add it up. |
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| That was a nice copy and paste |
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| Hi I have a 97 integra B18C what would make my car faster better pistons or get some cams??? |
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| B18Ctec, start your own thread and check the dates on topics before posting please. Locked. |
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