Blanco

Shorter gears are always faster. Traction should be taken care of elsewhere.

Now, if we're talking about a high horsepower, purpose built, drag car. The transmission should be designed so you're redlining your last gear right as you cross the finish line. Again, traction should be taken care of elsewhere.

Think about this. You can easily pick up 25% more acceleration through gearing alone.

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jtornado

Ya but in my opinion I would rather have more traction with less accel than less traction with more accel. I don't wanna be spinning through all gears before I even get traction at the finish line lol (I'm just theoretically speak) Plus Ill still get the benefit of fast accel and traction with the LS tranny for my setup. Which is why I didn't want the GSR. 60 trim with .48 A/R w/ 3" ex will spool pretty fast anyway so it doesn't matter really, if I wanted fast accel.

92civicb18b1

I had rebuilt a 42/48 and upgraded to a 60 housing, I made good numbers and was fully spooledby 3k rpm.

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jtornado

Ya that can all depend on your setup too. What is considered as a big turbo, do you guys go buy the a/r or trim????

Blanco

What part of "traction should be taken care of elsewhere" is confusing you?

If you shut up for three seconds and actually listen, instead of skimming and continually talking out of your ass, you might learn something.

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LS_VTEC

Shorter gears = more torque multiplication. More torque multiplication = faster rev's. Its a small gear driving a much larger gear. Who care's anyway? Just get the gsr or the ls or a b16 transmission for that matter.

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jtornado

Ya I understand what you mean about traction should be taken care of elsewhere. It doesn't matter what tranny you will be using cause you will get the same traction out of all of them most likely. Your telling me don't worry about the tranny and start thinking about suspension and tire sizes?????

Blanco

First, thank you for starting to think.

Depending on power levels, higher gears will induce more wheel spin due to the higher torque multiplication...what LS/V just said. So, you have to take steps to cure the problem. These steps include traction bars, proper suspension setup, limited slip differentials (LSDs) and good tires...meaning, over $100/ea.. You can choose to run longer gearing and higher power, but you're ultimately putting more stress on the engine and still inducing wheel spin with the higher power level. At the purpose-built level, your transmission gearing should be designed so you're hitting redline in your top gear right as you cross the finish line...in other words, really short gearing. If you're building your engine for the street, you can either take the best OEM compromise (the GSR transmission) or build your own transmission with an LS fifth gear in a B16 transmission for cruising and top speed. The former is significantly less expensive.

This is yet another reason why I tell people not to build race engines for street cars.

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jtornado

Lol well another reason why I choose the LS tranny is because thats the only tranny I know I can get my hands on. Thanks for the Info Blanco

Blanco

You should've just said that in the first place.

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eg6sir

GSR tranny.. LS 5th gear

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jtornado

In the future I think ill go with that but in the mean time I can only get my hands on the LS which is awesome too cause I'm getting it basically for free

aron44

what about the type r trany

Blanco

It's basically a B16 transmission with an LSD.

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aron44

so whats the best one for a LS turbo for 1/4 mile car.

eg6sir

Gsr Lsd

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LS_VTEC

If I had it my way... B16 1st, 2cd, 3rd, gsr 4th and LS 5th. I like the gsr's 4th gear because it is slightly longer than the b16, much shorter than the LS and is great for highway downshifting at higher speeds... This involving turbo that is.

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AWDrifter02

i thought i started this thread to get some help from ppl with experience??

Blanco

If you don't like the answers, feel free to try Honda-Tech.

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jtornado

See blanco your still saying it in a smart ass way.
You could have told him hey sorry about the other posts, were trying to help you out as much as possible but instead you say if you dont like the answers feel free to try honda-tech. That doesn't help bring in people. Think before you act and yes I will do the same.
Someone had to tell you blanco and unfortunately it had to be me. Block me all you want, what point are you trying to prove, that you know how to use the block button. Yes I said that in a smart ass way because you have been a smart ass to me from day 1. Anything you wanna say PM me so these threads don't get out of hand. Sorry for all the trouble but I had to say this.

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