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TeamUrbanChaos · 02-28-2005, 02:43 AM

ok its about spring time and i had my turbo project all set to go but i been talkin to some JDM guru's and the thought of nitrous sounded pretty good, almost as good as turboing it. basically im lookin for the best way to make some serious horsepower without breaking the bank... i mean there are turbo kits out there for like $700.00 but thats not including install and other parts i might need. nitrous is somewhat cheaper and probably a little less stressful on my motor and its probably alot safer on stock internals. also i need to kno whats better for this motor? high compression and forced induction i heard dont mix so what about high compression and funny gas?? also dry-or-wet?? lemme kno what u guys think!!

sk8er602 · 02-28-2005, 05:25 AM

if you do nitrous go with wet, and put an upgraded fuel pumping

erikespo · 02-28-2005, 06:46 AM

I don't know about less stressful..

and as with a turbo, you are going to need to be able to flow more fuel when the nitrous hits.

bluenutz5 · 02-28-2005, 10:00 AM

nitrous baby!!! thats what i use on my h22 on stock internals and im good....75shot but im running so rich i can hit 100shots with out a problem but i dont wana kill my motor so fast so i usually dont!!! fuck turbo use the funny gas!

Calesta · 02-28-2005, 11:51 AM

If you're only going to use it at the track, nitrous might be cheaper- but if you're going to be spraying all the time, the bottle fills will start catching up to you pretty quick. I would add a turbocharger. The stock block can handle 350whp without any problems.

TeamUrbanChaos · 02-28-2005, 03:55 PM

really?? 350HP out on a stock H22??

formby · 02-28-2005, 04:01 PM

nitrous all day......turbo 24/7

tab · 02-28-2005, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Calesta@Feb 28 2005, 11:51 AM
I would add a turbocharger. The stock block can handle 350whp without any problems.

Quoted post

That's what I'm talking about

TeamUrbanChaos · 03-01-2005, 09:17 AM

so i could run up to about 350HP with the stock internals? that fuckin awesome that means i could get a kit and run like 25 lbs of boost~~ j/k
what about the high ass compression? that cant be too good to run that much pressure on

Calesta · 03-01-2005, 11:28 AM

It wouldn't take anywhere near 25psi... just size your turbo properly and TUNE the engine well. The compression really isn't that high.

TeamUrbanChaos · 03-02-2005, 01:05 PM

it's like 10.5 to 1 right??

spydy43 · 03-07-2005, 03:52 PM

Nitrous would be ok for track use but it is definatley no less stressful. I ran nitrous for a couple of years on my civic and overall I was not to happy with it for several reasons. I was running a 50 shot so the power was pretty good but it sucked cause I didnt have an auto bottle opener and my tank was in the trunk so anytime I wanted to use it I had to get out of the car and open the bottle (you cant leave the bottle open cause it will slowly leak all of your nitrous out). There were other reasons like not being able to use it under heavy load, at low RPMs, on hills cause you risk puddling and blowing your intake manifold, fouling plugs when the nitrous runs out, and having to fill the bottle once a week at $30+ a fill. So all this said I went turbo and I am 100% happier. I went with a big enough turbo so it does not spool up if I am driving light and when I really want to get on it the power kick is pretty sick. The power is always on, plus you can easily get 100 whp out of that motor with good tuning (hondata, uberdata, aem...) it will probably be pretty reliable too. My NX nitrous setup cost me about a $1000 with bottle warmer and would have cost an additional $300 for an auto opener, a turbo is more expensive initially my kit ran me $2200 w/o install and fuel management but overall I am pleased with the end result.

02-28-2005, 02:43 AM	#1
TeamUrbanChaos Certified H22 Super-tech Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Home Of ThE LoSt Towers Posts: 472 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2004 suabru WRX STi GT30r turbo Rep Power: 16	ok its about spring time and i had my turbo project all set to go but i been talkin to some JDM guru's and the thought of nitrous sounded pretty good, almost as good as turboing it. basically im lookin for the best way to make some serious horsepower without breaking the bank... i mean there are turbo kits out there for like $700.00 but thats not including install and other parts i might need. nitrous is somewhat cheaper and probably a little less stressful on my motor and its probably alot safer on stock internals. also i need to kno whats better for this motor? high compression and forced induction i heard dont mix so what about high compression and funny gas?? also dry-or-wet?? lemme kno what u guys think!! __________________ " ITS A GIRL, BUY SOME PINK SHIT!!!" *FORMER 1992 accord EX coupe JDM H22a swap (recently completed) MSD SCI ignition control DC sports 3' cat back exhaust CROME programmed chipped p28 2004 subaru wrx STI* Gt30r twin scroll turbo (23psi) turboXS 4" turbo-back exhaust turboXS external wastegate kit K&N typhoon intake system *cobb accessport V2 flash prog.

02-28-2005, 05:25 AM	#2
sk8er602 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Athens, Ga Posts: 164 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	if you do nitrous go with wet, and put an upgraded fuel pumping __________________ 93' Civic SI - SOHC FURY 91' Integra Hatch - Sold 03' SI - RIP 97' Civic EX - Sold

02-28-2005, 06:46 AM	#3
erikespo Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Western New York Age: 26 Posts: 542 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 Honda Civic Si Rep Power: 16	I don't know about less stressful.. and as with a turbo, you are going to need to be able to flow more fuel when the nitrous hits. __________________ 1988 Honda CRX DX (Sold) 1993 Honda Civic EX (Sold) 1993 Nissan Sentra XE (Sold) 1996 Saab 900SE Turbo (For Sale) 2003 Honda Civic Si (For Sale) 2005 Honda Civic EX Special Edition (Sold) 2007 Mazdaspeed 3

02-28-2005, 11:51 AM	#5
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	If you're only going to use it at the track, nitrous might be cheaper- but if you're going to be spraying all the time, the bottle fills will start catching up to you pretty quick. I would add a turbocharger. The stock block can handle 350whp without any problems. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

02-28-2005, 03:55 PM	#6
TeamUrbanChaos Certified H22 Super-tech Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Home Of ThE LoSt Towers Posts: 472 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2004 suabru WRX STi GT30r turbo Rep Power: 16	really?? 350HP out on a stock H22?? __________________ " ITS A GIRL, BUY SOME PINK SHIT!!!" *FORMER 1992 accord EX coupe JDM H22a swap (recently completed) MSD SCI ignition control DC sports 3' cat back exhaust CROME programmed chipped p28 2004 subaru wrx STI* Gt30r twin scroll turbo (23psi) turboXS 4" turbo-back exhaust turboXS external wastegate kit K&N typhoon intake system *cobb accessport V2 flash prog.


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02-28-2005, 10:00 AM	#4
bluenutz5 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: chicago Posts: 156 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 14	nitrous baby!!! thats what i use on my h22 on stock internals and im good....75shot but im running so rich i can hit 100shots with out a problem but i dont wana kill my motor so fast so i usually dont!!! fuck turbo use the funny gas!

02-28-2005, 04:01 PM	#7
formby learning in progress Join Date: Feb 2003 Age: 27 Posts: 5,742 iTrader: 4 / 100% Ride: 00' Montero sport, 99' lsv civic Rep Power: 93	nitrous all day......turbo 24/7 __________________ SOMETIMES IN LIFE WE ALL NEED CHANGE! http://pandora.com/

03-01-2005, 09:17 AM	#9
TeamUrbanChaos Certified H22 Super-tech Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Home Of ThE LoSt Towers Posts: 472 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2004 suabru WRX STi GT30r turbo Rep Power: 16	so i could run up to about 350HP with the stock internals? that fuckin awesome that means i could get a kit and run like 25 lbs of boost~~ j/k what about the high ass compression? that cant be too good to run that much pressure on __________________ " ITS A GIRL, BUY SOME PINK SHIT!!!" *FORMER 1992 accord EX coupe JDM H22a swap (recently completed) MSD SCI ignition control DC sports 3' cat back exhaust CROME programmed chipped p28 2004 subaru wrx STI* Gt30r twin scroll turbo (23psi) turboXS 4" turbo-back exhaust turboXS external wastegate kit K&N typhoon intake system *cobb accessport V2 flash prog.

03-01-2005, 11:28 AM	#10
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,525 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	It wouldn't take anywhere near 25psi... just size your turbo properly and TUNE the engine well. The compression really isn't that high. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

03-02-2005, 01:05 PM	#11
TeamUrbanChaos Certified H22 Super-tech Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Home Of ThE LoSt Towers Posts: 472 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2004 suabru WRX STi GT30r turbo Rep Power: 16	it's like 10.5 to 1 right?? __________________ " ITS A GIRL, BUY SOME PINK SHIT!!!" *FORMER 1992 accord EX coupe JDM H22a swap (recently completed) MSD SCI ignition control DC sports 3' cat back exhaust CROME programmed chipped p28 2004 subaru wrx STI* Gt30r twin scroll turbo (23psi) turboXS 4" turbo-back exhaust turboXS external wastegate kit K&N typhoon intake system *cobb accessport V2 flash prog.

03-07-2005, 03:52 PM	#12
spydy43 Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 176 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 13	Nitrous would be ok for track use but it is definatley no less stressful. I ran nitrous for a couple of years on my civic and overall I was not to happy with it for several reasons. I was running a 50 shot so the power was pretty good but it sucked cause I didnt have an auto bottle opener and my tank was in the trunk so anytime I wanted to use it I had to get out of the car and open the bottle (you cant leave the bottle open cause it will slowly leak all of your nitrous out). There were other reasons like not being able to use it under heavy load, at low RPMs, on hills cause you risk puddling and blowing your intake manifold, fouling plugs when the nitrous runs out, and having to fill the bottle once a week at $30+ a fill. So all this said I went turbo and I am 100% happier. I went with a big enough turbo so it does not spool up if I am driving light and when I really want to get on it the power kick is pretty sick. The power is always on, plus you can easily get 100 whp out of that motor with good tuning (hondata, uberdata, aem...) it will probably be pretty reliable too. My NX nitrous setup cost me about a $1000 with bottle warmer and would have cost an additional $300 for an auto opener, a turbo is more expensive initially my kit ran me $2200 w/o install and fuel management but overall I am pleased with the end result.

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