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sia · 10-11-2004, 03:11 PM

thinking of a rebuild and not sure what tranny to use with B20 head

Calesta · 10-11-2004, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by sia@Oct 11 2004, 02:11 PM
thinking of a rebuild and not sure what tranny to use with B20 head

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What exactly are you asking? The transmission choice doesn't really have anything to do with the head- it never even touches it.

sia · 10-11-2004, 05:29 PM

sorry about b4...lookin to build B20 with a B16 head..not sure what will be best first step to getting the most out the project...just checking for advice...not sure if i wnat to turbo or not yet.

nocturnalhatch · 10-11-2004, 06:13 PM

for NA, i recommend the b16, but if your on a low budget and can't spit out the gas, i stay with the gsr. For turbo, ls.

sohcslammer · 10-11-2004, 06:21 PM

What's up Greg? I can get you the B20 motor for $550. You will also need a B series tranny, an ECU and axles for your swap. Call me after 6 and I'll tell you what you need. Or these guys on HondaSwap can sometimes be very helpfull. You gotta catch 'em on a good day though.... :P

integraslut78 · 10-11-2004, 07:44 PM

Whats up Greg this is Jonathan, Shadneys friend. Don't listen to Shadney he will tell you to buy all the expensive parts, and then he goes and buys the cheap parts he tells everyone else not to buy.

sohcslammer · 10-11-2004, 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by integraslut78@Oct 11 2004, 06:44 PM
Whats up Greg this is Jonathan, Shadneys friend. Don't listen to Shadney he will tell you to buy all the expensive parts, and then he goes and buys the cheap parts he tells everyone else not to buy.

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You fucking bitch. You are just butt hurt because I said I might run an APC muffler. Big fucking deal. I want a muffler with a burnt tip. Magnaflow doesn't make one and dynomax's is like ten feet long. I'll be running no cat and a magnaflow muffler for a resonator. So it will still sound good and look good as well. So fuck off.

On a side note - I just found a stash of OLD comptech shit up in my wherehouse. I have the swaybar/tie bar combo for the integra and a header for my car.... yummy....

integraslut78 · 10-11-2004, 08:14 PM

Uhmmmm can you please get me a comptech header? Sorry Greg. Not trying to thread jack. Lets get back on topic, call Shadney after 6pm he will help you I am just here to give Shadney a hard time.

beerbongskickass · 10-11-2004, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by nocturnalhatch@Oct 11 2004, 05:13 PM
for NA, i recommend the b16, but if your on a low budget and can't spit out the gas, i stay with the gsr. For turbo, ls.

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No.

If you want to go fast... shorter gears > longer gears... end of story.

The myth that longer gears are better for turbo is bullshit! Hondas make all their power at high rpms so you want to keep the rpms up as much as possible. Having a tranny with shorter gears will do this.

B16/ITR would be my number one choice for going fast, but driving on the freeway might suck so a GSR would be a little better. The LS tranny is shit especially if you have vtec and rev to like 8500 rpms! I think my buddy with a b16 turbo was telling me he is going about 110mph at redline in third gear with his LS tranny? That fucking blows ass lol.

B16 · 10-11-2004, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by beerbongskickass@Oct 11 2004, 04:39 PM
I think my buddy with a b16 turbo was telling me he is going about 110mph at redline in third gear with his LS tranny? That fucking blows ass lol.

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haha, omg, that would totally suck

i must agree, b16/itr

Calesta · 10-11-2004, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by beerbongskickass@Oct 11 2004, 07:39 PM
If you want to go fast... shorter gears > longer gears... end of story.

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sia · 10-11-2004, 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by sohcslammer@Oct 11 2004, 05:21 PM
What's up Greg? I can get you the B20 motor for $550. You will also need a B series tranny, an ECU and axles for your swap. Call me after 6 and I'll tell you what you need. Or these guys on HondaSwap can sometimes be very helpfull. You gotta catch 'em on a good day though.... :P

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thanks shad...you know that ill holla

pissedoffsol · 10-11-2004, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by sia+Oct 11 2004, 09:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sia @ Oct 11 2004, 09:38 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-sohcslammer@Oct 11 2004, 05:21 PM
You gotta catch 'em on a good day though.... :P

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thanks shad...you know that ill holla

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today is not a good day

j/p

ls trannies suck for everything but trying to go 195 mph.

I prefer the gsr tranny for a street car. its a good middle-man of close gears and reduced revs for highway driving, thus better gas mileage.
the b16/itr tranny's are slightly tighter, and thus slightly faster, but your highway mileage will be effected (running 4-5k for 75-80 depending on tire size).
the jdm ITR has even stupider close gearing, and IMO, i would never want it for a street/daily drive vehicle- but it WOULD be on my track vehicle.

sia · 10-12-2004, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by pissedoffsol+Oct 11 2004, 09:36 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(pissedoffsol @ Oct 11 2004, 09:36 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

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@Oct 11 2004, 05:21 PM
You gotta catch 'em on a good day though....* :P

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thanks shad...you know that ill holla

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today is not a good day

j/p

ls trannies suck for everything but trying to go 195 mph.

I prefer the gsr tranny for a street car. its a good middle-man of close gears and reduced revs for highway driving, thus better gas mileage.
the b16/itr tranny's are slightly tighter, and thus slightly faster, but your highway mileage will be effected (running 4-5k for 75-80 depending on tire size).
the jdm ITR has even stupider close gearing, and IMO, i would never want it for a street/daily drive vehicle- but it WOULD be on my track vehicle.

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its never a good time to reach shad...but i really appreciate the help...im up in the air as to which engine...mileage really isnt a factor, but the info is great...it money or lack of that really dictates the final decision...anyone know of places for good prices on engines?

sohcslammer · 10-12-2004, 07:03 PM

Greg - if money is a factor (and I know it is) you might be better off just putting in another ZC motor. Or the D16z6 which is the same thing as your motor. If you are looking for more power, you can go with the greddy turbo kit. The motor should cost you around $400 and the turbo kit should be around $1200. Plus you can use your same tranny, axles, ecu, etc...

Call me after work. I'll be taking lots of bongloads.

sia · 10-12-2004, 08:02 PM

you suck...i have to call you know who after work...but ill holla at 9k...you know this...after all we were gonna look inot the zc anyhoo, but i think id be better off with the new motor, etc...and nice post on your thread...DAMN!!! you really have to lay into him like that...not that im hating...just killin me :P
Call me after work. I'll be taking lots of bongloads.

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sia · 10-14-2004, 02:18 PM

any ideas as far as cams, etc...a friend recommended the itr cams, and pistons, but i didnt knwo if i could get a lot more out of other manufacturers...and any input from anyone who has done this would be well accepted

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Originally Posted by sia,Oct 11 2004, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sohcslammer,Oct 11 2004, 05:21 PM

You gotta catch 'em on a good day though....* :P

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thanks shad...you know that ill holla

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today is not a good day

j/p

ls trannies suck for everything but trying to go 195 mph.

I prefer the gsr tranny for a street car. its a good middle-man of close gears and reduced revs for highway driving, thus better gas mileage.
the b16/itr tranny's are slightly tighter, and thus slightly faster, but your highway mileage will be effected (running 4-5k for 75-80 depending on tire size).
the jdm ITR has even stupider close gearing, and IMO, i would never want it for a street/daily drive vehicle- but it WOULD be on my track vehicle.

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pissedoffsol · 10-15-2004, 01:14 PM

if you're broke- throw in an ls.

later down the road, you can vtec it up for cheap.

sohcslammer · 10-15-2004, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Oct 15 2004, 12:14 PM
if you're broke- throw in an ls.

later down the road, you can vtec it up for cheap.

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How much do you think that will run?

LS SWAP - 140hp
LS motor - $750
LS tranny - $250
Axles - $200
ECU - $100
Labor - (I know Gregg and he AINT doing the swap himself) $1000 at least
Various other crap - ?????????

VS

TURBO ZC - @170 hp
ZC motor - $300
Greddy turbo kit $1100
Labor - @$500

Just my .02 cents...

pissedoffsol · 10-15-2004, 02:03 PM

short term, the zc is a better bargain.
long term, its a d-series.

sohcslammer · 10-15-2004, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Oct 15 2004, 01:03 PM
short term, the zc is a better bargain.
long term, its a d-series.

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Ya got me there...

sia · 10-15-2004, 04:07 PM

shad knows "gregg" but im greg. and i am going to be doing the swap myself, with the assistance fo friends, so labor wont be too much of a factor...shad is right though if i didnt know a garage i can use...i think imma go with a gsr...and also HOLLA at 9K for the b20,a nd perhaps the pistons, etc that i need...cuz i know 9K and they are fun to work with...plus the b-loads :P come with the package....

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Originally posted by sohcslammer+Oct 15 2004, 12:34 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sohcslammer @ Oct 15 2004, 12:34 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-pissedoffsol@Oct 15 2004, 12:14 PM
if you're broke- throw in an ls.

later down the road, you can vtec it up for cheap.

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How much do you think that will run?

LS SWAP - 140hp
LS motor - $750
LS tranny - $250
Axles - $200
ECU - $100
Labor - (I know Gregg and he AINT doing the swap himself) $1000 at least
Various other crap - ?????????

VS

TURBO ZC - @170 hp
ZC motor - $300
Greddy turbo kit $1100
Labor - @$500

Just my .02 cents...

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sohcslammer · 10-15-2004, 04:13 PM

Sorry Greg (not gregg <_< ) I'm at work and I gotta type fast.

So you are going to attempt the swap yourself???? I might have to come down for that and watch.

Yes there will be bongloads.... :P

sia · 10-15-2004, 05:01 PM

shad you ass...i think with the b-loads that ill fucc up my car, but well see...i will have assistance in the process, but im sure with 9K help

all will be well

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Originally posted by sohcslammer@Oct 15 2004, 03:13 PM
Sorry Greg (not gregg <_< ) I'm at work and I gotta type fast.

So you are going to attempt the swap yourself???? I might have to come down for that and watch. Yes there will be bongloads.... :P

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sohcslammer · 10-15-2004, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by sia+Oct 15 2004, 04:01 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sia @ Oct 15 2004, 04:01 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>shad you ass...i think with the b-loads that ill fucc up my car, but well see...i will have assistance in the process, but im sure with 9K help all will be well

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Sorry Greg (not gregg* <_< ) I'm at work and I gotta type fast.

So you are going to attempt the swap yourself???? I might have to come down for that and watch.* * Yes there will be bongloads....* :P

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Uhh... yeah. I know all about swapping engines.... :no_1:

10-11-2004, 06:21 PM	#5
sohcslammer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 2,193 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 35	What's up Greg? I can get you the B20 motor for $550. You will also need a B series tranny, an ECU and axles for your swap. Call me after 6 and I'll tell you what you need. Or these guys on HondaSwap can sometimes be very helpfull. You gotta catch 'em on a good day though.... :P __________________ Latest project - 1 fucking fast 99 SI

10-11-2004, 07:44 PM	#6
integraslut78 Stylus DJ Extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: KiLLa kALi Posts: 2,576 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: ????????? Rep Power: 38	Whats up Greg this is Jonathan, Shadneys friend. Don't listen to Shadney he will tell you to buy all the expensive parts, and then he goes and buys the cheap parts he tells everyone else not to buy. __________________ DC Squad Member # 0631 I used to have my rides in this section but there are too many thieves out there trying to jack. I HATE THIEVES

10-11-2004, 08:14 PM	#8
integraslut78 Stylus DJ Extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: KiLLa kALi Posts: 2,576 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: ????????? Rep Power: 38	Uhmmmm can you please get me a comptech header? Sorry Greg. Not trying to thread jack. Lets get back on topic, call Shadney after 6pm he will help you I am just here to give Shadney a hard time. __________________ DC Squad Member # 0631 I used to have my rides in this section but there are too many thieves out there trying to jack. I HATE THIEVES

10-12-2004, 07:03 PM	#15
sohcslammer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 2,193 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 35	Greg - if money is a factor (and I know it is) you might be better off just putting in another ZC motor. Or the D16z6 which is the same thing as your motor. If you are looking for more power, you can go with the greddy turbo kit. The motor should cost you around $400 and the turbo kit should be around $1200. Plus you can use your same tranny, axles, ecu, etc... Call me after work. I'll be taking lots of bongloads. __________________ Latest project - 1 fucking fast 99 SI

10-15-2004, 04:13 PM	#23
sohcslammer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 2,193 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 35	Sorry Greg (not gregg <_< ) I'm at work and I gotta type fast. So you are going to attempt the swap yourself???? I might have to come down for that and watch. Yes there will be bongloads.... :P __________________ Latest project - 1 fucking fast 99 SI


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10-11-2004, 03:11 PM	#1
sia Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 12	thinking of a rebuild and not sure what tranny to use with B20 head

10-11-2004, 05:29 PM	#3
sia Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 12	sorry about b4...lookin to build B20 with a B16 head..not sure what will be best first step to getting the most out the project...just checking for advice...not sure if i wnat to turbo or not yet.

10-11-2004, 06:13 PM	#4
nocturnalhatch Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 13 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 11	for NA, i recommend the b16, but if your on a low budget and can't spit out the gas, i stay with the gsr. For turbo, ls.

10-12-2004, 08:02 PM	#16
sia Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 12	you suck...i have to call you know who after work...but ill holla at 9k...you know this...after all we were gonna look inot the zc anyhoo, but i think id be better off with the new motor, etc...and nice post on your thread...DAMN!!! you really have to lay into him like that...not that im hating...just killin me :P Call me after work. I'll be taking lots of bongloads. Quoted post [/quote]

10-15-2004, 01:14 PM	#18
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	if you're broke- throw in an ls. later down the road, you can vtec it up for cheap.

10-15-2004, 02:03 PM	#20
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	short term, the zc is a better bargain. long term, its a d-series.

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