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Think · 03-14-2004, 06:08 PM

I was just asking what you peeps thought about this set up on a 1999 Civic EX w/ VTEC. I recently purchased the AEM cold air intake and was going to get this:

RS*R Stainless Steel Exhaust package.
DC 4-1 Header.

I found this setup to be the most offordable while at the same time giving me what i wanted ( a gain in HP and a good sounding (not loud, not quiet) exhaust.

Thanks

JDMilan · 03-14-2004, 06:09 PM

sounds fine to me.....

Iquark · 03-14-2004, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Think@Mar 14 2004, 04:08 PM
I was just asking what you peeps thought about this set up on a 1999 Civic EX w/ VTEC. I recently purchased the AEM cold air intake and was going to get this:

RS*R Stainless Steel Exhaust package.
DC 4-1 Header.

I found this setup to be the most offordable while at the same time giving me what i wanted ( a gain in HP and a good sounding (not loud, not quiet) exhaust.

Thanks

Go with a 4-2-1 header, and then think about the Apex'i WS Exaust. The setup you have here would be fine, but you probably want a nice bump in the mid ranges that a 4-2-1 header will give you, where as the 4-1 will give you more top end.

The Apex'i exaust would be that nice sound, low price, nice build quality, and a good power gain.

just my .02

Ian

Think · 03-14-2004, 06:58 PM

yeah, I wanted more of a midrange power quality header. Would that 4-2-1 header be best for that? I kind of had my mind set on that RS*R package though. Thanks for the replies!

JDMilan · 03-14-2004, 08:13 PM

"generally speaking" yes the 4-2-1 gives more midrange,,,,,,,but nothing like a substantial increase over the 4-1

asmallsol · 03-14-2004, 09:39 PM

The RS*R exhaust is a great street exhaust, but your header choise sucks. The DCsport header is more for looks then anything. My freind has one on his R, and he gained 1 hp over stock (dyno proven). Lost some weight but thats about it. What a waste of cash. Save your money for at least the JDM ITR 4-1 header, if not better. Also, besides being shitty performance wise, they suck reliablity wise. One of my freinds had to weld his right where it meets the block because it cracked.

E_SolSi · 03-15-2004, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Think@Mar 14 2004, 06:58 PM
yeah, I wanted more of a midrange power quality header. Would that 4-2-1 header be best for that? I kind of had my mind set on that RS*R package though. Thanks for the replies!

the comptech is a 4-2-1
it costs around $470
its supposed to be pretty good

i would still go for a JDM ITR 4-1 though

pissedoffsol · 03-15-2004, 05:07 AM

fuck 4-2-1's. you're only in your midrange in 1st gear.

kyleirwin · 03-15-2004, 06:39 AM

, you guys are tards :P ...

Quote:

Originally posted by Think@Mar 14 2004, 06:08 PM
was just asking what you peeps thought about this set up on a 1999 Civic EX w/ VTEC.

it's a d-series you kooks, the ITR header won't fit. the DC header would be fine, and the rs*r exhaust is top notch

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pissedoffsol · 03-15-2004, 06:41 AM

bah, fuck a d-series. don't dump a god damn dime into it. save for a B

asmallsol · 03-15-2004, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by pissedoffsol@Mar 15 2004, 07:41 AM
bah, fuck a d-series. don't dump a god damn dime into it. save for a B

werd to that. I would have spent 4k vs the 2k that I did on my swap to make my old d-series the as fast as my GSR, and my GSR is stock, there is tons of room to improve, with the d-series, I would be getting close to maxing out the power, and maxing out the streetability.

But if you insist on keeping your shitty d16y7, buy the BiSimotors header. Very bad ass design.

cycloneb18c3 · 03-15-2004, 11:23 AM

how is he gonna put a jdm itr header on a d series?
personally I would get a powercore 4-2-1 header-on my friends 99 civic ex it made 5hp and 3ft lbs trq on the dyno. and a apexi n1 exhaust for a 2000 civic si.

AlphaCivic · 03-16-2004, 06:35 AM

rs*r exhaust = awesome
dc anything =

me and my friends have had quite some luck with S&S 4-1 headers. On my buddies b16 crx they dynoed 6hp and 4ft lbs xtra, but at a higher rpm range than the 4-2-1's. I'd much prefer the 4-1 design because when you are actually racing, why do you need mid range power other than in 1st gear? I think 4-2-1's are just parasitic at higher rpms. Thats my opinion tho.

look into getting a nice throttle body/intake manifold setup.. that would nicely compliment the above. also some b16 injectors will give you a little more juice to burn.

asmallsol · 03-16-2004, 10:35 AM

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Originally posted by AlphaCivic@Mar 16 2004, 07:35 AM
also some b16 injectors will give you a little more juice to burn.

urr both b series and d-series injectors are the same 240cc's. That will do absolutly nothing for you, and even if they were diffrent, you only need bigger injectors/more fuel if your detonating like if you have a turbo or something in that nature.

03-14-2004, 06:08 PM	#1
Think Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Missouri Age: 23 Posts: 161 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 99 Civic Rep Power: 14	I was just asking what you peeps thought about this set up on a 1999 Civic EX w/ VTEC. I recently purchased the AEM cold air intake and was going to get this: RS*R Stainless Steel Exhaust package. DC 4-1 Header. I found this setup to be the most offordable while at the same time giving me what i wanted ( a gain in HP and a good sounding (not loud, not quiet) exhaust. Thanks __________________ People in glass houses sink ships.

03-14-2004, 06:09 PM	#2
JDMilan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 6,733 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 81	sounds fine to me..... __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">"92 Blue EG"</span> -Project 3 - Motor A (NA stock SiR longblock B16 EG/S1tran) 14.3@97 15" radial tires & Gutted -Project 3 - Motor B (NA stock SiRII longblock B16 EG/S4tran) 13.3@103 MT's & Gutted <span style=\"color:red\">"Goldy S13"</span> -Project 4 - Motor A (FI SR20DET w/T28 "Under Construction&quot <span style=\"color:red\">"Silver E46"</span> -Project 5 - Motor A (???)

03-14-2004, 06:58 PM	#4
Think Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Missouri Age: 23 Posts: 161 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 99 Civic Rep Power: 14	yeah, I wanted more of a midrange power quality header. Would that 4-2-1 header be best for that? I kind of had my mind set on that RS*R package though. Thanks for the replies! __________________ People in glass houses sink ships.

03-14-2004, 08:13 PM	#5
JDMilan Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 6,733 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 81	"generally speaking" yes the 4-2-1 gives more midrange,,,,,,,but nothing like a substantial increase over the 4-1 __________________ <span style=\"color:red\">"92 Blue EG"</span> -Project 3 - Motor A (NA stock SiR longblock B16 EG/S1tran) 14.3@97 15" radial tires & Gutted -Project 3 - Motor B (NA stock SiRII longblock B16 EG/S4tran) 13.3@103 MT's & Gutted <span style=\"color:red\">"Goldy S13"</span> -Project 4 - Motor A (FI SR20DET w/T28 "Under Construction&quot <span style=\"color:red\">"Silver E46"</span> -Project 5 - Motor A (???)

03-14-2004, 09:39 PM	#6
asmallsol Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houghton/Livonia Michigan Age: 23 Posts: 8,101 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 del Sol Gas sipper Rep Power: 101	The RS*R exhaust is a great street exhaust, but your header choise sucks. The DCsport header is more for looks then anything. My freind has one on his R, and he gained 1 hp over stock (dyno proven). Lost some weight but thats about it. What a waste of cash. Save your money for at least the JDM ITR 4-1 header, if not better. Also, besides being shitty performance wise, they suck reliablity wise. One of my freinds had to weld his right where it meets the block because it cracked. __________________ Collin Material Science and Engineering Michigan Technological University


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03-15-2004, 05:07 AM	#8
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	fuck 4-2-1's. you're only in your midrange in 1st gear.

03-15-2004, 06:41 AM	#10
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	bah, fuck a d-series. don't dump a god damn dime into it. save for a B

03-15-2004, 11:23 AM	#12
cycloneb18c3 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 23 Posts: 1,056 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 23	how is he gonna put a jdm itr header on a d series? personally I would get a powercore 4-2-1 header-on my friends 99 civic ex it made 5hp and 3ft lbs trq on the dyno. and a apexi n1 exhaust for a 2000 civic si. __________________ whoever said nothing is impossible, never tried slamming a revolving door

03-16-2004, 06:35 AM	#13
AlphaCivic Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 66 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 13	rs*r exhaust = awesome dc anything = me and my friends have had quite some luck with S&S 4-1 headers. On my buddies b16 crx they dynoed 6hp and 4ft lbs xtra, but at a higher rpm range than the 4-2-1's. I'd much prefer the 4-1 design because when you are actually racing, why do you need mid range power other than in 1st gear? I think 4-2-1's are just parasitic at higher rpms. Thats my opinion tho. look into getting a nice throttle body/intake manifold setup.. that would nicely compliment the above. also some b16 injectors will give you a little more juice to burn. __________________ <span style=\'color:red\'>Red</span> 96 Civic Hatch Building up y7/y8 MiniMe with all the bolt ons & Si Trans Going for 11:1 compression 500 Mile break in on new ACT clutch in progress. Only 443 more miles to go till i can romp on it. ....waiting sucks

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