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rogbrown · 08-30-2006, 03:57 PM

Hi our JAZZ needs a service,that includes checking the valve clearance, local main dealer quoted 362 uk pounds 517 euros!!!. So I've decided to find out how to do it myself, but need the inlet/exhust clearance specs, can anyone help please..tks

Calesta · 08-30-2006, 07:47 PM

They should be listed on a sticker under the hood... at least that's how it is in the US. It should also be in your owner's manual.

rogbrown · 08-31-2006, 11:39 AM

Hi again, really wish that Honda had put more information on the sticker under the bonnet (hood), only says about the coolent and aircon, nowt else.

So if anyone knows the camshaft valve clearance for inlet & exhust it would be very appreciated.

asmallsol · 09-03-2006, 06:11 PM

Here in the states we don't even have that engine size although I would imangine they are similar. I would invest in a service manual for your engine. You should be able to pick one up at the dealer.

97hatch · 09-18-2006, 08:15 PM

how many miles are on the thing is it making noise? Ive seen motors with 200k+ and they were still tighter than the manual list

rogbrown · 09-20-2006, 08:50 AM

I agree the valve clearances may be fine, but, until I can check I dont know,
Honda actually carry out this check every 25,000mls and I presume they know what they are doing, cant see them checking unless needed.
What I need is the spec for the gap, anyone help?

97hatch · 09-20-2006, 10:27 PM

unless it is making lots of noise i woildnt worry about it

rogbrown · 09-21-2006, 01:36 PM

What if the gaps are closing up due to crap un-leaded petrol, erroding the valve seats, it will be quiet then !!

97hatch · 09-21-2006, 06:34 PM

lol i guess that could be a problem but you will have other problem b4 this happens i dont know about the specs i was just trying to give you some peace about the situtation

rogbrown · 10-06-2006, 06:30 AM

Well after a lot of research, result!!
Jazz 1.4 L13A 8V SOHC i-DSI engine 2002-2006

Inlet valve 0.15 to 0.19mm (6-7 thou)
Exhust valve 0.26 to 0.30mm (10-12 thou)

Rog...

angusgillespie · 10-17-2006, 10:21 AM

Well done! That was my exact question - about the valve clearances. Our dealer has not renewed the spark plugs in 35000m and now the car is going like a bomb after installing new spark plugs in half an hour. Great saving, as the dealer quoted us £140.00 for the job. I am betting that they have not checked the valve clearances...

Many Thanks

rogbrown · 10-19-2006, 03:50 PM

Glad that you saved yourself a fortune over main dealer prices, and that you cars running better.
Did you lash out for "IRIDIUM" spark plugs (last 70,000mls + ) or just stuffed in the standard ones?

angusgillespie · 10-20-2006, 05:16 AM

No - Just the standard NGK Honda supplied. They seem OK. Next it will be front brakes, I guess. Honda only publish workshop manuals on much older models. Neat ploy to keep the punters coming back.

rogbrown · 10-21-2006, 05:25 AM

I bought a CD that was advertised on e bay for a mear £4.99 ( $8.98)
really good, well worth the money, dont doubt that Hondas one would cost a fortune.
Rog....

evolusia · 12-19-2006, 08:21 PM

Hi guy`s, I need to check the valve clearance on my Jazz as well. My local dealear says that a valve compressor tool is required to do the job. Does anyone know the cam set up on these engines or how to do the adjustment. I suspect that there may be shims in the set up if a tool is required.

rogbrown · 12-20-2006, 05:01 PM

Looks like

its only a spanner/screwdriver and a set of feeler gauges setup!!

evolusia · 12-20-2006, 06:48 PM

Thanks for the quick reply, much appreciated. Looks like my LHD was bigging the job up for the £370 service charge.

rogbrown · 12-21-2006, 08:52 AM

Now I wonder why they would do that!!
As for needing a spring compressor tool, looks like even their V-Tech engine has the same adjusting arrangements... Rog.

rogbrown · 04-02-2007, 07:17 AM

Found this, explains all !!!!!

rog....
Valve Clearance Adjustment (L12A/L13A)

Calesta · 04-03-2007, 03:19 AM

rogbrown · 04-03-2007, 04:51 AM

Calesta, glad to be of service. Hopefully, others will pick up
the information, it's an relatively easy job to do, just time
consuming. Which is the reason the Honda garage charge so much.
rog....

Black Widow g2 · 04-04-2007, 08:15 PM

I was looking at the i-DSI engines... interesting how they use it...

wil4rdus · 04-26-2007, 04:00 AM

i was wondering.. is l13a idsi automatic timing?? i cant find the distributor

klyph · 04-26-2007, 06:52 PM

I don't think it has one, It's coil on plug if I'm not mistaken.

08-30-2006, 03:57 PM	#1
rogbrown Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 66 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	1.4se cvt-7 Jazz service Hi our JAZZ needs a service,that includes checking the valve clearance, local main dealer quoted 362 uk pounds 517 euros!!!. So I've decided to find out how to do it myself, but need the inlet/exhust clearance specs, can anyone help please..tks

08-30-2006, 07:47 PM	#2
Calesta Admin with a big stick Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas / Fort Worth, TX Age: 32 Posts: 24,530 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2003 S2000 Rep Power: 291	They should be listed on a sticker under the hood... at least that's how it is in the US. It should also be in your owner's manual. __________________ DO NOT PM me with tech questions! Use the forums! Intercrew Auto Salon - (972) 485-8688

08-31-2006, 11:39 AM	#3
rogbrown Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 66 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	valve clearance Hi again, really wish that Honda had put more information on the sticker under the bonnet (hood), only says about the coolent and aircon, nowt else. So if anyone knows the camshaft valve clearance for inlet & exhust it would be very appreciated.

09-03-2006, 06:11 PM	#4
asmallsol Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Houghton/Livonia Michigan Age: 23 Posts: 8,101 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 93 del Sol Gas sipper Rep Power: 101	Here in the states we don't even have that engine size although I would imangine they are similar. I would invest in a service manual for your engine. You should be able to pick one up at the dealer. __________________ Collin Material Science and Engineering Michigan Technological University

09-18-2006, 08:15 PM	#5
97hatch ? Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Anderson IN Age: 26 Posts: 1,589 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: i have 14 cars i drive my sohc turbo ef Rep Power: 34	how many miles are on the thing is it making noise? Ive seen motors with 200k+ and they were still tighter than the manual list __________________ SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES. NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS.


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09-20-2006, 08:50 AM	#6
rogbrown Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 66 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	I agree the valve clearances may be fine, but, until I can check I dont know, Honda actually carry out this check every 25,000mls and I presume they know what they are doing, cant see them checking unless needed. What I need is the spec for the gap, anyone help?

09-20-2006, 10:27 PM	#7
97hatch ? Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Anderson IN Age: 26 Posts: 1,589 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: i have 14 cars i drive my sohc turbo ef Rep Power: 34	unless it is making lots of noise i woildnt worry about it __________________ SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES. NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS.

09-21-2006, 01:36 PM	#8
rogbrown Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 66 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	What if the gaps are closing up due to crap un-leaded petrol, erroding the valve seats, it will be quiet then !!

09-21-2006, 06:34 PM	#9
97hatch ? Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Anderson IN Age: 26 Posts: 1,589 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: i have 14 cars i drive my sohc turbo ef Rep Power: 34	lol i guess that could be a problem but you will have other problem b4 this happens i dont know about the specs i was just trying to give you some peace about the situtation __________________ SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES. NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS.

10-06-2006, 06:30 AM	#10
rogbrown Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 66 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	Valve Clearances Well after a lot of research, result!! Jazz 1.4 L13A 8V SOHC i-DSI engine 2002-2006 Inlet valve 0.15 to 0.19mm (6-7 thou) Exhust valve 0.26 to 0.30mm (10-12 thou) Rog...

10-17-2006, 10:21 AM	#11
angusgillespie Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Well done! That was my exact question - about the valve clearances. Our dealer has not renewed the spark plugs in 35000m and now the car is going like a bomb after installing new spark plugs in half an hour. Great saving, as the dealer quoted us £140.00 for the job. I am betting that they have not checked the valve clearances... Many Thanks

10-19-2006, 03:50 PM	#12
rogbrown Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 66 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	Spark Plug change Glad that you saved yourself a fortune over main dealer prices, and that you cars running better. Did you lash out for "IRIDIUM" spark plugs (last 70,000mls + ) or just stuffed in the standard ones?

10-20-2006, 05:16 AM	#13
angusgillespie Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	No - Just the standard NGK Honda supplied. They seem OK. Next it will be front brakes, I guess. Honda only publish workshop manuals on much older models. Neat ploy to keep the punters coming back.

10-21-2006, 05:25 AM	#14
rogbrown Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 66 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	Workshop manual I bought a CD that was advertised on e bay for a mear £4.99 ( $8.98) really good, well worth the money, dont doubt that Hondas one would cost a fortune. Rog....

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12-19-2006, 08:21 PM	#15
evolusia Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	1.4 jazz valve adjustment Hi guy`s, I need to check the valve clearance on my Jazz as well. My local dealear says that a valve compressor tool is required to do the job. Does anyone know the cam set up on these engines or how to do the adjustment. I suspect that there may be shims in the set up if a tool is required.

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rogbrown Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 66 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	Looks like its only a spanner/screwdriver and a set of feeler gauges setup!!

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evolusia Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 0	Jazz valve clearance Thanks for the quick reply, much appreciated. Looks like my LHD was bigging the job up for the £370 service charge.

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rogbrown Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 66 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	Now I wonder why they would do that!! As for needing a spring compressor tool, looks like even their V-Tech engine has the same adjusting arrangements... Rog.

04-02-2007, 07:17 AM	#19
rogbrown Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 66 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	Found this, explains all !!!!! rog.... Valve Clearance Adjustment (L12A/L13A)

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rogbrown Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 66 Posts: 14 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 7	Calesta, glad to be of service. Hopefully, others will pick up the information, it's an relatively easy job to do, just time consuming. Which is the reason the Honda garage charge so much. rog....

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