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sevenhillsbilly · 03-24-2008, 04:43 PM

what do you guys think of ebay turbo kits??

eg6sir · 03-24-2008, 04:44 PM

get_nick · 03-24-2008, 04:45 PM

hasn't this been covered about 3145134514351345 times?

sevenhillsbilly · 03-24-2008, 04:45 PM

whats with the ninja dude?

LS_VTEC · 03-24-2008, 04:47 PM

YBLEGAL · 03-24-2008, 04:59 PM

ninja dude means, he came out of the night to show himself, and that means a lot for a ninja, but thought it was not necessary to speak for his very presence should convay a sense of fear great enough to make you go search some more cuz it's too obvious.

ebay kits suck dick; and not for coke!

sevenhillsbilly · 03-24-2008, 05:07 PM

alright then i will just peice one together

amadeuscr · 03-24-2008, 10:45 PM

I would say , get a piping and intercooler kit on eBay , turbo by itself it's just fine but is better if you get a non-cheap one, and don't get a cheap manifold !, I haven't had bad experience from a cheap turbo, so I can't say nothing bad about them , I used one my self for more than a year, and never gave me a problem, actually nothing on the eBay kit gave me problems, just the manifold that got cracked but I fix it and I did a support for the manifold and turbo, and was not a problem anymore, if you have a nice budget get quality parts, and if you don't I can give you some good tips and a ebay kit will work great

YBLEGAL · 03-25-2008, 12:33 AM

yes an 'ebay kit' sucks. but a greddy kit purchased off ebay is completly fine. i assume you meant the inexpensive ebay junk kit.

93civicracer · 03-25-2008, 01:54 AM

I bought an ebay header and it's been fine so far, no problems other than it looks like shit and the shiny finish is about faded

but does it's job.

But I'd NEVER get any turbo from ebay. Just the piping.

Matts96HB · 03-25-2008, 02:00 AM

I'm going to go out on a limb here. I was on Google the other day doing research on this same topic.

I came across a HondaTech thread:
Honda-Tech.com: Forced Induction: SSAC turbos........

Theres alot of vouching in there for these things.. and I just might give one a try. All my shit got stolen, so hell, might as well.

sevenhillsbilly · 03-25-2008, 09:04 AM

matt let me know if the turbo is in good shape because a tight budget is what im workin with right now so if it seems too be decent quality

awptickes · 03-25-2008, 09:11 AM

Like has been said before.

Buy the stuff that has low probability of breaking on eBay. If you think you're getting a good eBay special, you are paying 1/4 because it's going to last just that long. Buy a known brand of turbo, then forget about it.

92civicb18b1 · 03-25-2008, 09:41 AM

I wouldn't buy the cheap no name turbo or manifold . Everything else is fine. I did my turbo build for like 1000 bucks. I did buy the turbo off ebay but it was a Garrett, it was cheap, it didn't have much shaft play but I rebuilt it anyway and upgraded the intake side. I'm pretty sure I bought the manifold on HT and got a good deal on it also.

I bought a JRC IC and I'd recommend that cheap bad boy to anyone.

Piping I got from kteller, it looks like their prices went up since my build years ago.

The BOV I got from ebay.

Oil lines I made from Home depot plumbing supplies.

It's easy to find reasonable prices on parts, you just have to look around and research a little. You'll be much better off spending a little extra (i'm only talking like a couple hundred more, if that) on slightly better quality parts.

Matts96HB · 03-25-2008, 03:59 PM

I'll keep ya posted in my thread I'm sure.

The main reason why so many ebay turbo's blow seals so quickly is because people don't use an oil restrictor with them. They are only designed to get ~15 psi of oil flow, whereas a Honda engine can generally produce ~60 psi (or so I've read) in the higher RPM's.

The excess pressure has to have somewhere to go, so the seals are the first thing to go. BAM, oil burning, turbo is considered shot.

I'm not saying these turbo's are the greatest out there by any means, but they are an option for someone who knows what they are doing and is looking to do something on a budget.

Turbo&Auto · 03-25-2008, 04:11 PM

I bought a cheap ebay turbo manifold for the Accord. The turbo flange was resting against the block, no way to connect the turbo.

I also bought a XS Power evo3 16g and ran it for quite awhile without too many issues. I needed to port the wg to get boost under 18psi and the actuator arm came off of the post going into the turbo (wouldnt open flapper). Other then those couple issues, it worked out ok. Would I buy another, prolly not. I feel I got lucky the first time.

The parts are OK at best but their support is the worst ever. They reply to emails with links to faqs and just general automated responses. Very irritating when you have a problem with something. No phone number to call and talk to a person, just emails....This is what makes it REALLY not worth it at all, no support whatsoever!

daveholiday · 03-25-2008, 04:30 PM

I'd rather shit on my engine. Get about the same performance, but my shit is cheaper than ebay's shit, and for about the same thing.

91_civic_si · 03-25-2008, 11:42 PM

You get what you pay for. Thats all I got to say on this subject.

Lee7pcNOOb · 03-26-2008, 12:16 AM

google i was in the same boat as you, seen nothing but posts about cracked manifolds and weakly sealed turbo housings.
im not a good haggler so i chose the greddy turbo kit.

goldrims · 03-26-2008, 06:46 PM

since whe are talking about ebay, what type of power do you guys think i could possibly get out of this ebay kit, of course with the necessary upgrades
INTEGRA XtremE 46mm Full Racing Turbo Kit, B16 B18 - (eBay.ca item 370034787034 end time 27-Mar-08 18:53:47 EDT)

goldrims · 03-26-2008, 06:49 PM

which will be going on a b18b or h22a, thanks

amadeuscr · 03-26-2008, 06:52 PM

I know that answeers cannot be answered with questions , but this is the first question you have to answer yourself so we can give you tips

how much whp I want ?

Thanks

goldrims · 03-26-2008, 07:05 PM

if i put on my stock b18b i would like to see between 200-250whp and if i put on the h22 it will be fully built so i would want to boost higher, so i would say 400+whp

92civicb18b1 · 03-26-2008, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amadeuscr

I know that answeers cannot be answered with questions , but this is the first question you have to answer yourself so we can give you tips

how much whp I want ?

Thanks

Fortunately, after being around many stupid people, in jail, frequent Hondaswap and around people who can't speak or use grammar properly, I've become what I'd consider fluent in Moron.

Before I comment let me give a synopsis on "Moron" the language. This language, although not entirely (other languages have a special dialect which also resembles "Moron") was derived from English. Coming into the internet ages, years of proper English had been overcome by semi retarded beings finding access to the internet and flooding it with their moronic and improper ways of speaking or in this case typing.

People somehow invented this language and thought and still think if they just put the words that could possibly form a sentence from the ideas floating in their heads onto a forum that somehow the people who speak "Modern English" would just understand them.

Along with this language comes over aggressiveness when a "Modern English" speaking person misinterprets or has a hard time understanding a piece typed or written and attempts to counter with a question asking what the said piece is supposed to mean.

Don't use that XSPower garbage, it's just a different name for SSAC.

goldrims · 03-26-2008, 07:35 PM

please fill me in about xsp or xspower or ssac, whats the story?

03-24-2008, 04:43 PM	#1
sevenhillsbilly Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 613 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89 honda crx si and 94 chevy s10 4x4 Rep Power: 12	ebay turbo kits-- your opinions what do you guys think of ebay turbo kits??

03-24-2008, 04:45 PM	#3
get_nick The G37.... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Washington State Age: 29 Posts: 9,992 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: Black G37, '07 R6 Rep Power: 266	hasn't this been covered about 3145134514351345 times? __________________ I changed the page layout. let me know what you think. I need feedback. www.obamacies.com

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03-24-2008, 10:45 PM	#8
amadeuscr Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 162 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 8	I would say , get a piping and intercooler kit on eBay , turbo by itself it's just fine but is better if you get a non-cheap one, and don't get a cheap manifold !, I haven't had bad experience from a cheap turbo, so I can't say nothing bad about them , I used one my self for more than a year, and never gave me a problem, actually nothing on the eBay kit gave me problems, just the manifold that got cracked but I fix it and I did a support for the manifold and turbo, and was not a problem anymore, if you have a nice budget get quality parts, and if you don't I can give you some good tips and a ebay kit will work great __________________ Ride: B16A JDM SiR-II - Hatch 92 - WISECO Piston Kit STD - Eagle Rods - Walbro 255lph - AEM Wideband - CROME PRO - T3/T4 Turbo Kit - RamHorn Style - DSM 450cc Injectors - TiAL 38 MM External WasteGate - Integra Front Brake System - Mugen Valve Cover Red - NGK Iridium Spark Plugs

03-25-2008, 02:00 AM	#11
Matts96HB F.I. Junkie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Spokane, WA Age: 19 Posts: 2,658 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1996 Civic, 1992 Accord Rep Power: 101	I'm going to go out on a limb here. I was on Google the other day doing research on this same topic. I came across a HondaTech thread: Honda-Tech.com: Forced Induction: SSAC turbos........ Theres alot of vouching in there for these things.. and I just might give one a try. All my shit got stolen, so hell, might as well. __________________ XBOX LIVE GT: teb00stcat (00's are zeroes) -320 WHP EJ6-


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03-24-2008, 04:59 PM	#6
YBLEGAL Regular Member w/ Cheese Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 2,746 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2000 EJ8 w/ SiR-II Rep Power: 72	ninja dude means, he came out of the night to show himself, and that means a lot for a ninja, but thought it was not necessary to speak for his very presence should convay a sense of fear great enough to make you go search some more cuz it's too obvious. ebay kits suck dick; and not for coke!

03-24-2008, 05:07 PM	#7
sevenhillsbilly Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 613 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89 honda crx si and 94 chevy s10 4x4 Rep Power: 12	alright then i will just peice one together

03-25-2008, 12:33 AM	#9
YBLEGAL Regular Member w/ Cheese Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 2,746 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2000 EJ8 w/ SiR-II Rep Power: 72	yes an 'ebay kit' sucks. but a greddy kit purchased off ebay is completly fine. i assume you meant the inexpensive ebay junk kit.

03-25-2008, 09:04 AM	#12
sevenhillsbilly Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 613 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: 89 honda crx si and 94 chevy s10 4x4 Rep Power: 12	matt let me know if the turbo is in good shape because a tight budget is what im workin with right now so if it seems too be decent quality

03-25-2008, 09:11 AM	#13
awptickes Reverend Awptickes Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bel Air, MD Age: 21 Posts: 3,949 iTrader: 6 / 100% Ride: 1999 Civic EJ9, 2009 Fit GE8, 2006 Suzuki SV650s Rep Power: 184	Like has been said before. Buy the stuff that has low probability of breaking on eBay. If you think you're getting a good eBay special, you are paying 1/4 because it's going to last just that long. Buy a known brand of turbo, then forget about it. __________________ ☻/ DIY/Howto HID Projector retrofit /▌ / \

03-25-2008, 09:41 AM	#14
92civicb18b1 The Trisexual Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The asshole of the USA, New Jersey Age: 22 Posts: 8,874 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2007 Civic, 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee Rep Power: 122	I wouldn't buy the cheap no name turbo or manifold . Everything else is fine. I did my turbo build for like 1000 bucks. I did buy the turbo off ebay but it was a Garrett, it was cheap, it didn't have much shaft play but I rebuilt it anyway and upgraded the intake side. I'm pretty sure I bought the manifold on HT and got a good deal on it also. I bought a JRC IC and I'd recommend that cheap bad boy to anyone. Piping I got from kteller, it looks like their prices went up since my build years ago. The BOV I got from ebay. Oil lines I made from Home depot plumbing supplies. It's easy to find reasonable prices on parts, you just have to look around and research a little. You'll be much better off spending a little extra (i'm only talking like a couple hundred more, if that) on slightly better quality parts. __________________ DO NOT PM ME WITH TECH QUESTIONS!!! Current Rides 1992 Chevy S-10 Ext. Cab Previous 1992 Civic DX Hatch = 1994 B18B1 Turbo Rebuilt Garrett .60/.48 T3, log style mani and DIY downpipe, DSM 440's, kteller IC piping, JRC Intercooler, Home Depot style oil lines, HKS BOV, Crome Tuned, 253whp 1994 Civic VX Hatch, 1992 b18a1 swap 1993 Civic CX Hatch, 2000 B18b1

03-25-2008, 03:59 PM	#15
Matts96HB F.I. Junkie Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Spokane, WA Age: 19 Posts: 2,658 iTrader: 1 / 100% Ride: 1996 Civic, 1992 Accord Rep Power: 101	I'll keep ya posted in my thread I'm sure. The main reason why so many ebay turbo's blow seals so quickly is because people don't use an oil restrictor with them. They are only designed to get ~15 psi of oil flow, whereas a Honda engine can generally produce ~60 psi (or so I've read) in the higher RPM's. The excess pressure has to have somewhere to go, so the seals are the first thing to go. BAM, oil burning, turbo is considered shot. I'm not saying these turbo's are the greatest out there by any means, but they are an option for someone who knows what they are doing and is looking to do something on a budget. __________________ XBOX LIVE GT: teb00stcat (00's are zeroes) -320 WHP EJ6-

03-25-2008, 04:11 PM	#16
Turbo&Auto Nick Go FAST!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East Burg, PA! Age: 28 Posts: 3,271 iTrader: 3 / 100% Ride: 09 Cobalt SS/TC Rep Power: 87	I bought a cheap ebay turbo manifold for the Accord. The turbo flange was resting against the block, no way to connect the turbo. I also bought a XS Power evo3 16g and ran it for quite awhile without too many issues. I needed to port the wg to get boost under 18psi and the actuator arm came off of the post going into the turbo (wouldnt open flapper). Other then those couple issues, it worked out ok. Would I buy another, prolly not. I feel I got lucky the first time. The parts are OK at best but their support is the worst ever. They reply to emails with links to faqs and just general automated responses. Very irritating when you have a problem with something. No phone number to call and talk to a person, just emails....This is what makes it REALLY not worth it at all, no support whatsoever! __________________ www.BackyardTurbo.com

03-25-2008, 04:30 PM	#17
daveholiday Sonnova Bitch! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 1,662 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: 2006 GSX-R 600, 2003 Santa Fe GLS Rep Power: 44	I'd rather shit on my engine. Get about the same performance, but my shit is cheaper than ebay's shit, and for about the same thing.

03-25-2008, 11:42 PM	#18
91_civic_si Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wasilla, Alaska Posts: 658 iTrader: 2 / 100% Rep Power: 14	You get what you pay for. Thats all I got to say on this subject.

03-26-2008, 12:16 AM	#19
Lee7pcNOOb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Arlington Posts: 176 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 6	google i was in the same boat as you, seen nothing but posts about cracked manifolds and weakly sealed turbo housings. im not a good haggler so i chose the greddy turbo kit. __________________ w00t.alive

03-26-2008, 06:46 PM	#20
goldrims Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 49 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 4	since whe are talking about ebay, what type of power do you guys think i could possibly get out of this ebay kit, of course with the necessary upgrades INTEGRA XtremE 46mm Full Racing Turbo Kit, B16 B18 - (eBay.ca item 370034787034 end time 27-Mar-08 18:53:47 EDT)

03-26-2008, 06:49 PM	#21
goldrims Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 49 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 4	which will be going on a b18b or h22a, thanks

03-26-2008, 06:52 PM	#22
amadeuscr Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 162 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 8	I know that answeers cannot be answered with questions , but this is the first question you have to answer yourself so we can give you tips how much whp I want ? Thanks __________________ Ride: B16A JDM SiR-II - Hatch 92 - WISECO Piston Kit STD - Eagle Rods - Walbro 255lph - AEM Wideband - CROME PRO - T3/T4 Turbo Kit - RamHorn Style - DSM 450cc Injectors - TiAL 38 MM External WasteGate - Integra Front Brake System - Mugen Valve Cover Red - NGK Iridium Spark Plugs

03-26-2008, 07:05 PM	#23
goldrims Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 49 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 4	if i put on my stock b18b i would like to see between 200-250whp and if i put on the h22 it will be fully built so i would want to boost higher, so i would say 400+whp

03-26-2008, 07:35 PM	#25
goldrims Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 49 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 4	please fill me in about xsp or xspower or ssac, whats the story?

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