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civic15.8 · 12-10-2003, 11:04 PM

ok, I talked to a guy tonight that had a turbo on his car. And he said to make sure i run un-detergent oil with my turbo. I dont know much about oil and i have never heard of un-detergent oil before. So is this type of oil real? Did this guy know what he was talking about? And whether its true or not what kind of oil would be the best? I heard mobil 1 and castrol gtx are the best? thanks in advance.

2000Si · 12-10-2003, 11:24 PM

I never heard of that before either. Maybe he was talking about oils that have different types of additives in it that will end up gunking up the shaft and ball bearings in turbos and cause them to break.

swanny · 12-10-2003, 11:26 PM

damn near all oils have detergents in them, just real the labels and they should say wether or not it contains them.

civic15.8 · 12-10-2003, 11:37 PM

this is why he told me to get the undetergent kind:

cause they regular kind flows best and it will flow to fast for the bearings and it will screw them up so i need to get the un-detergent kind so it flows slower.

i will look at the oils labels and see what kind it is. i just dont want to get some piece of junk oil (if there even is some piece of junk oil)

NotUrAverage_Si · 12-11-2003, 01:36 AM

synthetic oil works good like castrol gtx.

pissedoffsol · 12-11-2003, 01:53 AM

syntec blend is whats going in my motor if it ever runs

knowledge · 12-11-2003, 02:37 AM

Redline synthetic oil! Thats what I am running. I ran Royal Purple before that.

Accordturbo94 · 12-11-2003, 02:41 AM

There is Such things as non detergent oils. I used them in my Karts after a rebuild to break them in. I know some eurpean turbo cars recommend using a non detergent oil. But the thing with not having the detergents are that sludge can build up and what not. using a regular motor oil removes the sludge before it gets bad and helps prevent them. You may want to use a synthetic oil maybe a bit thicker than normal to help it not break down.. or check out AmsOil they make a specific turbo formula! Va-La my 2c

civic15.8 · 12-11-2003, 09:48 AM

allright thanks guys i think i will either go with synthetic oil or that oil accordturbo94 was talking about (amsoil) thanks alot

D See 2 · 12-11-2003, 10:01 AM

mobil1 synthetic claims engines properly broke in will show no signs of wear after 200,000 miles

BrahmaBullSQ · 12-11-2003, 06:53 PM

MOBIL One

If F1 uses it... shouldn't you?

AMSOIL - I run that in my stock CX hatchback. I forget how long it'll last.... I believe like 3 months without changing maybe. I know it lasts longer and is just as good as Mobil and Castrol. Expect to pay more for it though.

knowledge · 12-12-2003, 06:19 AM

Mobil1=the worst synthetic out there

BrahmaBullSQ · 12-12-2003, 06:31 AM

How do you figure. My brother has used it in his B16 boosting 18 psi for a year now.

He just now started to leak coolant though. That's been his first problem so far.

knowledge · 12-12-2003, 06:55 AM

Give it time!

BrahmaBullSQ · 12-12-2003, 03:50 PM

Give me reasons. Your analysis of future problems if you will.

I just wanna know what's so bad about Mobil 1. Thanks.

knowledge · 12-12-2003, 04:52 PM

about a year or so ago someone on here found a place that did a test on different types of oil(dino-vs-synthetic) and different brands -vs- one another. I am not saying mobil1 is the crappiest oil ever. It still is better than running dino oil. What i am saying is that out of synthetics, Mobil1 is the worst. Do some research. I would rather spend the money and get the best when it comes to oil, that is all!

BrahmaBullSQ · 12-12-2003, 10:02 PM

I know AMSOIL tested Mobil 1 in their own magazine... it had maybe 6 or 7 tests included and I think Amsoil beat Mobil 1 in all but one. More than likely it was biased and it wasn't showing EVERY test. But I don't think I have the mag anymore.

Slo86GT · 12-13-2003, 03:15 AM

I PLAN on changing and rebuilding mine so much that I jsut put in 10w-30 castrol GTX. Fuck it, I don't rock anything longer than 50k without tearing up something major or selling it.

pissedoffsol · 12-13-2003, 07:27 AM

50k??? has your civic seen mroe than 5k since i've known you bro? lol

12-10-2003, 11:04 PM	#1
civic15.8 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: alabama Posts: 521 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 19	ok, I talked to a guy tonight that had a turbo on his car. And he said to make sure i run un-detergent oil with my turbo. I dont know much about oil and i have never heard of un-detergent oil before. So is this type of oil real? Did this guy know what he was talking about? And whether its true or not what kind of oil would be the best? I heard mobil 1 and castrol gtx are the best? thanks in advance. __________________ bagged and dragin

12-10-2003, 11:26 PM	#3
swanny Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: buck teeth and government checks, PA Posts: 3,782 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 50	damn near all oils have detergents in them, just real the labels and they should say wether or not it contains them. __________________ http://www.midwesthybrid.com

12-10-2003, 11:37 PM	#4
civic15.8 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: alabama Posts: 521 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 19	this is why he told me to get the undetergent kind: cause they regular kind flows best and it will flow to fast for the bearings and it will screw them up so i need to get the un-detergent kind so it flows slower. i will look at the oils labels and see what kind it is. i just dont want to get some piece of junk oil (if there even is some piece of junk oil) __________________ bagged and dragin

12-11-2003, 01:36 AM	#5
NotUrAverage_Si Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: :/ Posts: 2,257 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 35	synthetic oil works good like castrol gtx. __________________ '00 <span style=\"color:black\">FBP</span> Civic <span style=\"color:red\">Si</span>-T \|<a href=\"http://www.full-race.com\" target=\"_blank\">full-race</a>\|<a href=\"http://www.goldeneaglemfg.com\" target=\"_blank\">golden eagle</a>\|<a href=\"http://www.fast-turbo.com\" target=\"_blank\">fast-turbo</a>\|<a href=\"http://www.hondata.com\" target=\"_blank\">hondata</a>\|<a href=\"http://www.wiredspeed.com\" target=\"_blank\">wiredspeedlab</a>\| email: boostfedEM1@yahoo.com <div class=\'quotetop\'>QUOTE(dohch22a4 @ Sep 20 2004, 11:44 AM)</div><div class=\'quotemain\'> Please, Obi Wan B, you're our only hope. </div> <span style=\"font-size:36pt;line-height:100%\"> <a href=\"http://www.nissantech.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.NissanTech.co m</a></span>

12-11-2003, 02:37 AM	#7
knowledge Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Beale AFB, CA Posts: 1,410 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 29	Redline synthetic oil! Thats what I am running. I ran Royal Purple before that. __________________ The C5 is strong with this one........


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12-11-2003, 01:53 AM	#6
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	syntec blend is whats going in my motor if it ever runs

12-11-2003, 02:41 AM	#8
Accordturbo94 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 920 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 24	There is Such things as non detergent oils. I used them in my Karts after a rebuild to break them in. I know some eurpean turbo cars recommend using a non detergent oil. But the thing with not having the detergents are that sludge can build up and what not. using a regular motor oil removes the sludge before it gets bad and helps prevent them. You may want to use a synthetic oil maybe a bit thicker than normal to help it not break down.. or check out AmsOil they make a specific turbo formula! Va-La my 2c

12-11-2003, 09:48 AM	#9
civic15.8 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: alabama Posts: 521 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 19	allright thanks guys i think i will either go with synthetic oil or that oil accordturbo94 was talking about (amsoil) thanks alot __________________ bagged and dragin

12-11-2003, 10:01 AM	#10
D See 2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Baltimore, MD Age: 25 Posts: 2,401 iTrader: 0 / 0% Ride: '92 Civic CX Rep Power: 39	mobil1 synthetic claims engines properly broke in will show no signs of wear after 200,000 miles __________________ Garage: 1992 CX Hatch > Current Money Pit Grave: R.I.P. 1995 Integra GSR R.I.P. 1990 DX Hatch R.I.P. 1990 CRX Si

12-11-2003, 06:53 PM	#11
BrahmaBullSQ Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 207 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	MOBIL One If F1 uses it... shouldn't you? AMSOIL - I run that in my stock CX hatchback. I forget how long it'll last.... I believe like 3 months without changing maybe. I know it lasts longer and is just as good as Mobil and Castrol. Expect to pay more for it though. __________________ <span style=\'font-family:Arial\'><span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\'>Dynamic Motorsports <span style=\'color:red\'>(www.dmspower.com)</span></span></span> My Brother - 359 wheel hp (1.6L B16) - 18 psi Talbert - 525 wheel hp (2.1L block/B16 head) - 25 psi b16ahatch - 331 wheel hp (1.6L B16) - 14 psi "Life is not worth living if one cannot do what one likes most." - Soichiro Honda "SCs have their place- low RPM, high torque applications such as two stroke diesels found in cranes and graders. Turbos do too- under the hood of a car owned by anyone that's serious about going fast." - LocoHonkey

12-12-2003, 06:19 AM	#12
knowledge Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Beale AFB, CA Posts: 1,410 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 29	Mobil1=the worst synthetic out there __________________ The C5 is strong with this one........

12-12-2003, 06:31 AM	#13
BrahmaBullSQ Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 207 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	How do you figure. My brother has used it in his B16 boosting 18 psi for a year now. He just now started to leak coolant though. That's been his first problem so far. __________________ <span style=\'font-family:Arial\'><span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\'>Dynamic Motorsports <span style=\'color:red\'>(www.dmspower.com)</span></span></span> My Brother - 359 wheel hp (1.6L B16) - 18 psi Talbert - 525 wheel hp (2.1L block/B16 head) - 25 psi b16ahatch - 331 wheel hp (1.6L B16) - 14 psi "Life is not worth living if one cannot do what one likes most." - Soichiro Honda "SCs have their place- low RPM, high torque applications such as two stroke diesels found in cranes and graders. Turbos do too- under the hood of a car owned by anyone that's serious about going fast." - LocoHonkey

12-12-2003, 06:55 AM	#14
knowledge Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Beale AFB, CA Posts: 1,410 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 29	Give it time! __________________ The C5 is strong with this one........

12-12-2003, 03:50 PM	#15
BrahmaBullSQ Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 207 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	Give me reasons. Your analysis of future problems if you will. I just wanna know what's so bad about Mobil 1. Thanks. __________________ <span style=\'font-family:Arial\'><span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\'>Dynamic Motorsports <span style=\'color:red\'>(www.dmspower.com)</span></span></span> My Brother - 359 wheel hp (1.6L B16) - 18 psi Talbert - 525 wheel hp (2.1L block/B16 head) - 25 psi b16ahatch - 331 wheel hp (1.6L B16) - 14 psi "Life is not worth living if one cannot do what one likes most." - Soichiro Honda "SCs have their place- low RPM, high torque applications such as two stroke diesels found in cranes and graders. Turbos do too- under the hood of a car owned by anyone that's serious about going fast." - LocoHonkey

12-12-2003, 04:52 PM	#16
knowledge Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Beale AFB, CA Posts: 1,410 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 29	about a year or so ago someone on here found a place that did a test on different types of oil(dino-vs-synthetic) and different brands -vs- one another. I am not saying mobil1 is the crappiest oil ever. It still is better than running dino oil. What i am saying is that out of synthetics, Mobil1 is the worst. Do some research. I would rather spend the money and get the best when it comes to oil, that is all! __________________ The C5 is strong with this one........

12-12-2003, 10:02 PM	#17
BrahmaBullSQ Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 207 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 15	I know AMSOIL tested Mobil 1 in their own magazine... it had maybe 6 or 7 tests included and I think Amsoil beat Mobil 1 in all but one. More than likely it was biased and it wasn't showing EVERY test. But I don't think I have the mag anymore. __________________ <span style=\'font-family:Arial\'><span style=\'font-size:9pt;line-height:100%\'>Dynamic Motorsports <span style=\'color:red\'>(www.dmspower.com)</span></span></span> My Brother - 359 wheel hp (1.6L B16) - 18 psi Talbert - 525 wheel hp (2.1L block/B16 head) - 25 psi b16ahatch - 331 wheel hp (1.6L B16) - 14 psi "Life is not worth living if one cannot do what one likes most." - Soichiro Honda "SCs have their place- low RPM, high torque applications such as two stroke diesels found in cranes and graders. Turbos do too- under the hood of a car owned by anyone that's serious about going fast." - LocoHonkey

12-13-2003, 03:15 AM	#18
Slo86GT Super Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Memphis - Hellhole of the South Posts: 3,367 iTrader: 0 / 0% Rep Power: 48	I PLAN on changing and rebuilding mine so much that I jsut put in 10w-30 castrol GTX. Fuck it, I don't rock anything longer than 50k without tearing up something major or selling it. __________________ - Jody - 2004 Colorado ZQ8 - I5, M5, Regular cab - 209.9whp/210.7wtq 1986 Mustang GT - V8, M5 - 213.0whp/279.2wtq

12-13-2003, 07:27 AM	#19
pissedoffsol RETIRED Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Retirement Home Age: 29 Posts: 49,951 iTrader: 2 / 100% Ride: Electric Scooter Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 531	50k??? has your civic seen mroe than 5k since i've known you bro? lol

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